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My personal theory on the competing event is that KC is letting her do it so she can be a warning to other cons about how much of a pain in the ass she is. Smaller non-corporate whoring cons talk. They absolutely warn each other which VAs are nightmares. Monica's stunt is self evident about how she can and will fuck your con over. I will not be surprised if she goes the way of Schemmel and finds herself out of con work.

Not like she will care because she clearly has no respect for the fans who support her.
 
Hey all. Been on the sidelines and had to chime in with the whole Iago ordeal. My auti-gender ADHD couldn't handle looking over the first few hundred pages so I apologize if this may have already been mentioned. Iago publicly tweeted around 400 or more defamatory tweets in a 2 month period. That should honestly narrow it down to one person as I don't see how that is anywhere near an average feat. Any wetbacks willing to pick up the task?
 
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I hope Kirby doesn't engage with Monica. I believe something bad did happen but jesus she's really gone full Rose McGowan. Why would you hire security? To prevent someone groping her? I imagine she wont pose with fans either.

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You would never NOT have security at a signing event. By virtue of being well-known enough to be invited to cons she'd be potentially in danger at a public signing even if she weren't embroiled in drama. Remember that youtube singer who was killed a couple years ago? She was doing signing/photos with the fans herself, I believe, and some random guy with an obsessive crush walked up to her and shot her in the face, killing her. What's absurd is that she's somehow 'safer' with less security at a smaller venue that's easier to get into where less people will be paying attention, filming, and watching her.

Chris Sabat / Christopher Robin Sabat / VoiceOfVegeta / eatmoreokra / Okratron5000 / christopher8865

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$730,000 price tag, and he's currently renovating the whole place. His family has been renting an apartment here for over a year while that's happening. Rent for a 2-bedroom runs about $2,000/month. Rich bitch, huh?
Wonder if they're expanding the garage to fit more Teslas?
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His wife is named Tabitha Ann Sabat. She does HR and accounting at Sabat's company, Okratron 5000. They have two daughters named Hero and Nova (poor kids).

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See, the fact that he's married, has two kids, and flirts around with his coworkers + cosplay girls is one of the reasons I don't think he's Iago. The personal descriptors Ty used (high voice, unpleasant face + personality, implied weasel appearance, poor luck with the ladies) just don't line up with Sabat. He surely has his hand caught in the cookie jar of kickvic, but I lean toward Igor.

Is that last one him with Rial or his wife?

I'm suffering an onset case of Suburban Soccer Mom Same-Face Syndrome -- holy shit do they look similar.

His wife is prettier than Rial, IMO

That begs the question why it says OTP
I get that it's a joke but it's a shipping term, as in romantic pairings
Why would you "ship" yourself with a female co-worker of yours when you have a wife and two kids?

Monica voices Bulma. They really play up the Bulma x Vegeta thing between them for the fans.


As for Kamehacon supporting Monica, I think they're killing her with kindness. They'll come out smelling like roses because they've supported and rolled with Monica's punches despite her obvious unreasonability, they look completely professional and like the better people, and Monica's signing is going to absolutely flop anyway. If they endorse her and wish her well and she still fails, she'll have owned herself. And if Nick is right, they probably have a new contract agreeing not to say anything negative about each other, precluding her from blaming Kamehacon or continuing to say they have poor security/don't care about their goers.

Most likely if she breaks that, or if people use this as an indication that they can walk all over Kamehacon, then you'll see them strike. They'd be forced to at that point, as it could ruin them completely if they didn't.
 
Wedding reception and anime con conflicts were a legacy from the early to mid 90ies. Mid-90ies to present day anime cons sharing space with another function have been a non-issue aside from awkward stares.
There’s nothing more fascinating than seeing a group of Sailor Moon crossdressing cosplayers in the backgroung of a graduation photo.
Unfortunately that pic was lost within flooding damage, so I can’t share it. Imagine, you taking a family picture at your brother’s graduation ceremony in the 2nd floor lobby of a convention center while a Comic Con is happening downstairs. We took 3 photos, in one of them there was a black dude cosplaying as Sailor Mercury and some fat guy as Sailor Mars. We didnt notice this until the pictures were printed.

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That's a very nice looking house and car, brag-worthy nice even. ;)
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She's fat.
I always look forward to your stunning commentary. :bluelabel:
 
Hey all. Been on the sidelines and had to chime in with the whole Iago ordeal. My auti-gender ADHD couldn't handle looking over the first few hundred pages so I apologize if this may have already been mentioned. Iago publicly tweeted around 400 or more defamatory tweets in a 2 month period. That should honestly narrow it down to one person as I don't see how that is anywhere near an average feat. Any wetbacks willing to pick up the task?
That's NOT what was said. Read the thread.
 
Hey all. Been on the sidelines and had to chime in with the whole Iago ordeal. My auti-gender ADHD couldn't handle looking over the first few hundred pages so I apologize if this may have already been mentioned. Iago publicly tweeted around 400 or more defamatory tweets in a 2 month period. That should honestly narrow it down to one person as I don't see how that is anywhere near an average feat. Any wetbacks willing to pick up the task?

It's the opposite, man. Iago has said almost nothing negative at all publicly. He may not have said anything, in fact, as Ty and Nick hinted at both. 400 Tweet Man is just Toye, who is an unimportant boy toye of Monica that does all the dirty work she doesn't want to be caught doing.
 
It's the opposite, man. Iago has said almost nothing negative at all publicly. He may not have said anything, in fact, as Ty and Nick hinted at both. 400 Tweet Man is just Toye, who is an unimportant boy toye of Monica that does all the dirty work she doesn't want to be caught doing.

Is that who Ty is referring to in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g7OZGKSYjQ @9:16?
 
Monica Rial & Ron Toye / Monica Jean Rial / Ronald Toye III / Rialisms / rontoye3

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So that's what a "Net worth of $14m" buys you according to all them fancy websites giving Rial's net worth, huh?

A house the same size as a UK home for about the same price point.

Amazing.

Those KamehaCon owners really need to grow a spine. How you gonna let these guys bail and then set up shop next door?
Kamehacon actively endorsing her is bizarre to me, what would they gain from their attendees leaving the con? Maybe they think nobody will bother?

So, a previous place they mentioned over in Grapevine was a Texrail trip and a bus ride away. All on public transport and easy enough to get to for Con attendees.

Doc's Comics and Games?

Nope. It's out in the wilderness. Meaning it's a $50 cab ride one way. To go see them.

$100 not on that other Bulma Body Pillow, or that figurine, or even a really good night out at one of the bars and places to eat outside.

$100 not on booze or molly with your friends. (Don't do drugs, kids).

$100 not on more merch or that shit you want. Heck, it's a third of the price towards buying the whole of Dragon Ball Z on Blu Ray.

So the question everyone will be busy asking themselves at the con, with its air conditioning, and the hotel within walking distance if they even hear of this shit, is do I really want to waste $100 more to spend time in a random comic and game shop that looks cramped with 20 people in it?

"Eh, nah. I'll go hit the artists alley again instead."
 
In addition to his legal chops (which, not to sound mean, are probably just modest, especially since he's a guy in a small town) Nick's a pretty good showman. He knows how to keep people interested.

Ty sounded impressed when he asked about Ty's opinion on his legal videos, so I'd say Nick is actually a particularly good lawyer. Which was surprising to me, since he's so humble
 
Ty sounded impressed when he asked about Ty's opinion on his legal videos, so I'd say Nick is actually a particularly good lawyer. Which was surprising to me, since he's so humble

Despite dealing with legal issues, Nick doesn't usually nerd out about the minutiae of legal doctrine. Even though he could if he wanted to. He has the lack of autism necessary to know what aspects of the doctrinal issues are actually of use to his audience.

I'll note he was on Knox v. Taylor like white on rice the moment tortious interference and Texas became an issue (back when the Waid case started). He is quick on the uptake in zeroing in on the relevant precedents even in jurisdictions he doesn't already know.
 
Monica still has the deal where as long as you have a KC ticket you can go and see the sabat studio and see Monica free but have to buy autographs right?

So its a money thing, KC still gets the best deal here, Monica and friends are still there, anyone wanting to see vic and monica will still buy a KC ticket, anyone that wanted to see just 1 will buy a KC ticket, i see this as KC having their cake and eating it, no reason not to buy a ticket if you was going when monica was attending if its just a short ways away and you get to grab merch AND see Monica.
 
Ty sounded impressed when he asked about Ty's opinion on his legal videos, so I'd say Nick is actually a particularly good lawyer. Which was surprising to me, since he's so humble

Good lawyers are not braggards, quite honestly.

Anyone that is is generally a TV lawyer.


Or in Mark Zaid's case, a gloryhound letting Scottish Lawyers do all the work for him before sweeping in and being all dramatic.

Or in Avenetti's case, straight up bribery and extortion.


Nick's a "front line" lawyer, he deals with actual people who typically don't know jack shit about the minutae of lawfare.

You develop the ability to boil stuff down very quickly when you're in that sort of "front line" position. This is true in pretty much any service job you can think of.

Nick's been able to use that ability to decent success with his youtube livestreaming.


Monica still has the deal where as long as you have a KC ticket you can go and see the sabat studio and see Monica free but have to buy autographs right?

So its a money thing, KC still gets the best deal here, Monica and friends are still there, anyone wanting to see vic and monica will still buy a KC ticket, anyone that wanted to see just 1 will buy a KC ticket, i see this as KC having their cake and eating it, no reason not to buy a ticket if you was going when monica was attending if its just a short ways away and you get to grab merch AND see Monica.

"You can still totally go and see them guys! Even get a free autograph! Just, ya know, cost you $100 in cab fares."

Yup. Kamehacon's come out so far ahead I'd be giggling to myself as I sent that tweet out.
 
Mike Toole from Anime News Network has been a bit friendly with MarzGurl lately.

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Vomiting. Yep, that must be his reaction video after meeting her.

Kara Edwards has announced that part of her print sales proceeds at Kamehacon will be donated to a charity for sexual assault victims. Guess this is how the VAs that didn't cancel will be virtue signaling.

That's truckloads more classy than what REEal did and is completely above board. Even if this person is a full blown SJW (I have no clue) they get full points for playing by the same rules as sane people.

You would never NOT have security at a signing event. By virtue of being well-known enough to be invited to cons she'd be potentially in danger at a public signing even if she weren't embroiled in drama. Remember that youtube singer who was killed a couple years ago? She was doing signing/photos with the fans herself, I believe, and some random guy with an obsessive crush walked up to her and shot her in the face, killing her. What's absurd is that she's somehow 'safer' with less security at a smaller venue that's easier to get into where less people will be paying attention, filming, and watching her.

After Nick's stream tonight I think we should start a GFM to have Greer show up and tell him she's an easy lay.
 
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So its a money thing, KC still gets the best deal here, Monica and friends are still there, anyone wanting to see vic and monica will still buy a KC ticket, anyone that wanted to see just 1 will buy a KC ticket, i see this as KC having their cake and eating it, no reason not to buy a ticket if you was going when monica was attending if its just a short ways away and you get to grab merch AND see Monica.

It's about 20 miles in hellish dense, urban traffic. You're talking an hour or so.
 
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It's about 20 miles in hellish dense, urban traffic. You're talking an hour or so.
Thats whats hilarious, it hasnt been stated how far it actually is by monica, she just said "its a ways away" and KC hasnt mentioned distance or travel between either.
 
You would never NOT have security at a signing event. By virtue of being well-known enough to be invited to cons she'd be potentially in danger at a public signing even if she weren't embroiled in drama. Remember that youtube singer who was killed a couple years ago? She was doing signing/photos with the fans herself, I believe, and some random guy with an obsessive crush walked up to her and shot her in the face, killing her. What's absurd is that she's somehow 'safer' with less security at a smaller venue that's easier to get into where less people will be paying attention, filming, and watching her.

Christina Grimmie was the youtuber, and they had security at the event just not metal detectors to check bags and stuff.
 
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So, Know Your Meme has placed Weeb Wars as "Sub-Entry" for AnimeGate.

Speds, the lot of them. Talk about watching the tree but missing the forest.

Don't worry, KYM has been transforming more and more into wikipedia of late, people simply referencing articles from blogs as if the personal opinion of some guy is gospel, instead of actually going out and finding shit out yourself.


It's about 20 miles in hellish dense, urban traffic. You're talking an hour or so.

Considering how far away it is, and Rial actually hiring security, as if somehow people are mad enough at low rent Bulma they'd even bother making the trip across town just to glare at her angrily. I just wonder if there is a chance something will "happen" at her signing, after all, no one else will be around to confirm anything would they?
 
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