Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Clockwork Dragon]

he's been smart enough to keep his mouth shut and his hands clean in a majority of the dealings here

...And this is exactly why I am Team Sabat for him being Iago. I really hope we learn who the players are come next Monday. In the meantime, there's not much good drama (Renfamous and her sidekick/ sock RBW are not interesting at all, except for how well they rope in retards on the internet).

 

[JosephTX]

God damn considering this shit is averaging over 30 pages a day at this rate how long before this spawns a subforum?

 

[Genkoda]

God damn considering this shit is averaging over 20 pages a day at this rate how long before this spawns a subforum?

This topic is too specific to have a subforum and does not revolve around one cow(wouldnt count vic as a cow). Also I think a topic like this has a lifespan given what the event is. If topics like gamergate, trump deranged syndrome, and a few others have not gotten their own subforum, I sincerely doubt this one will.

 

[Buck Mullet]

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Do it. See how that works out for you.

This person has got to be mocking #KickVic sycophants. No way they are serious. Maybe they could be so stupid, but my money is they are just a mock alt Renfamous sock account. Funny thing is some of these bozo's probably nod their empty heads in agreement when they see them post.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

But one last thing: anything Lupin III. I can't shill that hard enough, I'm a huge Lupin fan.

I reccomend Lupin III on the strength of its OP alone. Such an iconic piece of music in its own right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4GziiyiBX4

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Do it. See how that works out for you.

Please do, it'd be wonderful watching Nick rant and laugh at it.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Man, I wish people (hopefully not from here) would stop engaging Renfamous and her probable sockpuppet Raised By Wolves. She is absolutely trolling the morons who do, ffs. Renfamous' whole thing is to get people banned from Twitter in order to shut them down, why on earth would anyone engage her or RBW?

RbW is so inept at baiting that I find it difficult to believe they're a Ren sockpuppet. Ren's done "well" by just overblowing facts into falsehoods-- RbW is over here outright asserting Beard's using Nick as a proxy to intimidate witnesses (when they've literally been saying that nobody that's getting sued will have the opportunity to parade 30 100 six million 25 witnesses through the well to talk about how Vic nearly hugged their soul out of their bodies), and the best that they have for evidence of this is that "Nick talks to Beard".

I'm tempted to believe that RbW is a double gay op. Their claims are going to become more and more ridiculous, to the point that even people who are adamantly #kickvic will tell them to slow their jets and pied pipering those who are actually frothing at the mouth enough to believe that, taking the wind out of their "movement"'s sails.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Interesting point but I think the case will be where most of the defendants are in Texas, and while California's anti-SLAPP may be the most robust in the nation, Texas's is pretty tough too. I don't think she'd fare any better on that in California, tbh.

I'm sure BHBH has gone through her shit, but just offhand, while she started the hashtag, I don't specifically recollect anything as horribly and obviously actionable as shit SoyeBoye (for example) says on a daily basis. I haven't read everything she said though. You wouldn't want to sue her if she hasn't.

Somebody correct me, but isn’t the easiest typical way to defeat an anti-SLAPP motion the ability to show clear and obvious economic harm. Such as loss of employment directly attributable to the cause of action?

He did say it would be pretty funny if they did it in California, because it would be in Federal court, citing diversity jurisdiction, and it would be WAY more expensive for her to defend.

However, he also expressed reservations about California anti-SLAPP.

I guess we'll see. I'm still putting my chips on the fact she ain't gonna be included in R1 as a defendant (deposed is another matter).

Marzgurl is a weird one. And hard to predict. I would almost think they have to go after her. She’s the one who created and championed the public defamatory campaign aimed at destroying Vic’s business relationships with the Cons. #kickvic is the heart of, and clear evidence of the civil conspiracy. Plus it isn’t so much Marzgurl herself, as much as Who it is that Marzgurl forms the nexus connecting.

RaisedBySiblings is probably just Ren anyway. If not, another statistical outlier on the left end of the bell curve.

Raisedbybooze is almost certainly Ren. They use the same turns of phrase and language. You can almost track when one disappears the other shows up. She’s honestly bad at it. Her sock management is up there with Brianna Wu’s. It’s pretty clear she created the Raisedbywolves account to be able to say the nasty shit that is starting to jeopardize her main account.

I think this pushback against SJW is working really well compared to Gamergate because law is now a part of the equation and the SJWs can't do anything against it.

Who knew that the only real way to defeat the SJWs/thots/fedora tippers/white knighters is some drunk Minnesotan lawyer

Yeah, just expect a short period of blowback stupidity. The SJW twitterati are incapable of a new thought or strategy. They do not create, only copy. Typically not understanding what they are copying. So they will adopt Lawfare. They will be bad at it. But it will still be messy for a bit. The only thing that may limit it is these fools are typically piss poor, and have already largely tapped out their paypigs.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Marzgurl is a weird one. And hard to predict. I would almost think they have to go after her. She’s the one who created and championed the public defamatory campaign aimed at destroying Vic’s business relationships with the Cons. #kickvic is the heart of, and clear evidence of the civil conspiracy. Plus it isn’t so much Marzgurl herself, as much as Who it is that Marzgurl forms the nexus connecting.

I don't really see Marzgirl being a target unless Vic just wants to make an example out of her as a symbol to the rest of Twitterdom, and I don't see Vic as that kind of person. She's more valuable as a tool by which to establish the conspiracy, since she probably has ties to people in both Funimation and Rooster Teeth and started the kickvic hashtag. In that sense, she's a useful weak link to hammer on, as she is the most susceptible to legal and financial threats, given her own terrible financial situation. So they will hang the threat of lawsuit over her and make her cooperative in taking down bigger targets.

 

[huckbeine]

I don't really see Marzgirl being a target unless Vic just wants to make an example out of her as a symbol to the rest of Twitterdom, and I don't see Vic as that kind of person. She's more valuable as tool by which to establish the conspiracy, since she probably has ties to people in both Funimation and Rooster Teeth and started the kickvic hashtag. In that sense, she's a useful weak link to hammer on, as she is the most susceptible to legal and financial threats, given her own terrible financial situation. So they will hang the threat of lawsuit over her and make her cooperative in taking down bigger targets.

Yeah, if anything, I would say that Marzgurl, Shane and other twits would be called as hostile witness

I reccomend Lupin III on the strength of its OP alone. Such an iconic piece of music in its own right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4GziiyiBX4

Oh no you didn't. Take that back, or else I would unless the glory of ↑←↑ on you

 

[Solo Wing Pixy]

I don't really see Marzgirl being a target unless Vic just wants to make an example out of her as a symbol to the rest of Twitterdom, and I don't see Vic as that kind of person. She's more valuable as tool by which to establish the conspiracy, since she probably has ties to people in both Funimation and Rooster Teeth and started the kickvic hashtag. In that sense, she's a useful weak link to hammer on, as she is the most susceptible to legal and financial threats, given her own terrible financial situation. So they will hang the threat of lawsuit over her and make her cooperative in taking down bigger targets.

If that turns out to be the case then it sucks that we won't get to see Marzgurl go down for this, but at least she will be of some use to the case.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Yeah, if anything, I would say that Marzgurl, Shane and other twits would be called as hostile witness

I am still not convinced that Shane actually knows as much as he lets on. If you are actually involved in back room shenanigans (civil conspiracy) that could see you sued, the last thing you would want to do take your shirt and scream "look at me and all the illegal shit I am doing!" But then I remember that these people are increadibly dumb and the dude seems to have a desperate desire to be involved in things that do not and should not involve him.

Its also a big mistake to assume MarzGurl is in the same boat as Allison Cooke. Allison was doing what she and her fellow Fujishi's always do and bitched about the homophobic christian man. It was MarzGurl who decided to signal boost that and she kept flogging the #kickvic shit for weeks and when the heat got too intense she retreated to her hugbox on PULL and continued to do the same thing. Whether she was involved with the VA's and ANN is another matter that is not known but considering all the ties to Channel Awesome, ANN and the CosThots I would not be shocked if she was involved.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Its also a big mistake to assume MarzGurl is in the same boat as Allison Cooke. Allison was doing what she and her fellow Fujishi's always do and bitched about the homophobic christian man. It was MarzGurl who decided to signal boost that and she kept flogging the #kickvic shit for weeks and when the heat got too intense she retreated to her hugbox on PULL and continued to do the same thing.

You forget hanleia also posted that PULL post she supposedly got from a friend about Vic drugging and raping her or somesuch.

 

[mindlessobserver]

You forget hanleia also posted that PULL post she supposedly got from a friend about Vic drugging and raping her or somesuch.

Do we got that anywhere? I missed it.

 

[captkrisma]

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Krissy still tries to bait Nick into admitting stuff, claiming she's only interested in "keeping people safe", while everyone knows she's kickvic and one of the Anime Matsuri boycotters. She's trying to fan the flames in concern troll fashion. If she wants him to spend his time answering her exceptional questions, she better be ready to pay his rates.

http://archive.li/xnbqX

He did answer the question, just not in the way Krissy wanted.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

god this whole thing is just so cancerous. thank god it'll die when exposed to sunlight.

hmmmm. wonder if that makes kickvicers vampires. would explain the medival mindset.

 

[Least Concern]

Bit of a delayed reaction here, but I can't get over the number of people tagging Vic demanding he somehow call Kiwifarms off.

I just got my call from the person up the phone tree and they told me that Vic said we are to continue posting and memeing for now. I'm gonna call my two people after I post this.

(God, remember phone trees? I'm so fucking old and I will die soon.)

by the way, can I take a minute and just recommend some anime? like cowboy bebop, fullmetal alchemist, and my favorite of all, saga of tanya the evil.

The KF anime/manga thread is here. Please use that for recommendations.

p l a n n e d

h a r a s s m e n t

c a m p a i g n

As if we could plan for this shit. It grows and diverges into wildly new directions every day. This shit is keeping us on our toes, man.

MY FUCKING GOD

THESE DENSE MOTHERFUCKERS

Nick has already shown MULTIPLE TIMES what happens when you file a “harassment” complaint. It becomes an inquiry and therefore dismissed. Why are you doing it again?

WHAT THE FUCK

I've said it before; I don't think very many people on the #KickVic side are keeping up with Nick's streams and such as we are. Thus, whatever information they get about the case is some combination of days/weeks late and filtered and spun through many layers of Chinese whispers from Twitter and PULL echo chambers. So "filing a bogus complaint against Nick or Ty will likely result in Nick reading your complaint live on stream and hopefully he doesn't boomer censoring out whatever private information you put on that form, which by the way he does as mere curtesy" might not have got through to them yet.

Then there's going to be the 15th, that week is going to be great, my payday is at the end of it

Give at least 1% of your paycheck to the GFM campaign. MATCH ME BRO

This topic is too specific to have a subforum and does not revolve around one cow(wouldnt count vic as a cow). Also I think a topic like this has a lifespan given what the event is. If topics like gamergate, trump deranged syndrome, and a few others have not gotten their own subforum, I sincerely doubt this one will.

Your first sentence contains two contradictory statements, and KF actually had a whole GamerGate subforum at one point. At this point I think a subforum would be nice just so those who like to post every… single… thing their favorite cows tweet could have their own threads to do so in.

Anyway, a thought: Those commenting on the novelty on this particular culture war battle involving the law are forgetting ComicsGate and the resulting and ongoing Meyer v Waid lawsuit. It has its own thread, but here's a quick rundown.

Richard C. Meyer is a retired vet who reviews comic books on his YouTube channel. Despite non-existent production value in his videos, his channel took off like a rocket in 2017. In his videos, he usually criticizes what he sees as a social justice takeover of comics and rags about things like black characters which aren't allowed to have flaws or 110-pound women with danger hair who are able to knock out muscle-bound men with one punch. His older videos could be quite caustic; he's mellowed out a lot over the last year or so. He ended up making a lot of enemies in the comics mainstream and was eventually doxed (he originally tried to stay anonymous).

He had done a few of his own books before, and last year he announced that a sequel to one of his previous books, Jawbreakers, would be published by a publishing company called Antarctic Press. But not long after the announcement, Antarctic backed out of the deal. It looks an awful lot like this happened after a long-time comics professional named Mark Waid called Antarctic and threw his weight around to get Antarctic to not work with that alt-right bigot misogynist Meyer, so Meyer lawyered up and is now suing Waid for tortious interference. Nick Rekieta started covering this case, which led him to looking into the Mignogna stuff after much of the ComicsGate community started to notice it. Nick reached out to Vic for an on-stream interview which ended up not happening, but apparently he did bring up the idea to Vic of consulting a certain law firm in Texas about a possible TI case, and the rest is history.

So, yes, this particular lawsuit-in-the-making is great and will hopefully help stem the tide of callout culture, but it's not the first! Without Meyer v Waid, there'd be no Mignogna v Whoever.

 

[Solo Wing Pixy]

Give at least 1% of your paycheck to the GFM campaign. MATCH ME BRO

Sure, buddy I'll do that.

 

[Army Burger]

 

[huckbeine]

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[Genkoda]

Your first sentence contains two contradictory statements, and KF actually had a whole GamerGate subforum at one point. At this point I think a subforum would be nice just so those who like to post every… single… thing their favorite cows tweet could have their own threads to do so in.

Yeah I phrased that badly. What I meant was the topic is too specific as an event that will probably die out after the lawsuit to justify something more permanent as a subforum. As for not revolving around one cow, I was referring to involving too many people. So one was meant for the event and the other was meant as an individual.

Basically what I noticed is that you have subforums like multimedia, beauty parlor, A&H that are more topic type discussions. Then you have specific subforums for your more popular cows, but not one subforum for 5 cows. Anyways I suppose it might come off as confusing what I am trying to say, but I hope it makes a little more sense where I was coming from.

Also I had no idea temporary subforums were sometimes a thing, so that was my ignorance on that and I do appreciate the clarification.