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To understand any of the madness, you HAVE to look to history because all this has happened before. It's all laid out for all to see, however most people either refuse to look or simply will not connect the dots.

These are all radical leftists. First and foremost. Trump has nothing to do with it other than being 'not radical left.' Republicans or conservatives in general, likewise. Christians are hated because the concepts of Christianity stand as a polar opposite to most of what the radical left believes.

When the various flavors of 'Brownshirts' in Stalinist Russia, Mao's China, Hitler's Germany or every other third world socialist wannabee country made their bids to take power, they didn't begin with automatic weapons and bombs. they began with whisper campaigns and propaganda to destabilize the current society/populations of the time. They accused those of power and influence of all manner of heinous crimes and actions with zero proof. Their 'proof' came in repeating 'the big lie', regardless of what lie was needed at the moment.

They spent considerable effort on the youth of the given cultures, convincing them black was white and up was down. Education became co-opted as did entertainment/celebrities and as time and power progressed, any dissenting voices were locked out and often disappeared.

At a certain threshold, the violence began and the history books record it all. But the radical left of old got it's start doing VERBATIM the very things we see with groups like Kick Vic/Anti-Comicsgate, Anti-Gamergate, Me Too, Environmental extremism et all.

The Shanes and Rons and Monicas arent simply stupid. They are "Useful Idiots" in the historical sense. They are doing what they do because of their politics and that political view's grab for power. They have been taught, as their predecessors before them, to propagandize, lie and destroy the system, regardless of what 'the system' may be, because it stands as a bulwark to the Utopian vision of their handlers.

Follow the money/power trail backwards. You see common names/groups feeding them their talking points. The feminism/partiarchy BS. The anti christian attitudes. The Orange Man Bad rhetoric. None of it is their original thinking. They just act as the shock troops delivering the 'message' and carrying out the enforcement. Just like the useless idiots of days gone by. The difference is that instead of a Stalin/KGM/Mao et all pulling the strings, you have the feminist/ANTIFA/DNC.

Same Communism, different century.

To be fair, there is a major difference.

The modern SJW death kult exists because the globalist dystopian overlords freaked the fuck out when the masses revolted like they did over the bail outs in 2008/2009 and Obama's inability to keep his people in line. The Tea Party was promptly co-opted and neutered out of the gate, but Occupy Wall-Street couldn't be controlled, wrangled, or subverted so it had to be destroyed/replaced with controlled opposition. Hence the SJW death kult.

Note that the SJW Death Kult pushing online censorhip; this TOTALLY won't be used against them once they wipe out dissent right?

The modern globalists tend to be a bit smarter, having learned from the early-mid 20th Century mistakes of their predecessors. They learned that you have to keep your useful idiots under your thumb and worse case scenario, if and when the Democrats take over, you'll see the globalists create the all-new, totally safe for housewives version of the alt right to coopt and serve as the replacement of the Tea Party to ensure the lunatic left are neutered, once the left take power again.
 
So poking around to see what I could find left over from the RbW disappearance, I found this schmuck who'd been offering up to call 'some friends in CPS' on TUG at RbW's behest. New account from April 9th but wouldn't you know it, their profile has them pining to be a Funimation VA someday.

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To be fair, there is a major difference.

The modern SJW death kult exists because the globalist dystopian overlords freaked the fuck out when the masses revolted like they did over the bail outs in 2008/2009 and Obama's inability to keep his people in line. The Tea Party was promptly co-opted and neutered out of the gate, but Occupy Wall-Street couldn't be controlled, wrangled, or subverted so it had to be destroyed/replaced with controlled opposition. Hence the SJW death kult.

Note that the SJW Death Kult pushing online censorhip; this TOTALLY won't be used against them once they wipe out dissent right?

The modern globalists tend to be a bit smarter, having learned from the early-mid 20th Century mistakes of their predecessors. They learned that you have to keep your useful idiots under your thumb and worse case scenario, if and when the Democrats take over, you'll see the globalists create the all-new, totally safe for housewives version of the alt right to coopt and serve as the replacement of the Tea Party to ensure the lunatic left are neutered, once the left take power again.


I was around for the proto-SJWs in the mid to late 90s, IE before Bush/Obama did their voodoo and I can say with no reservation that the same concepts in full use today were employed back then. The only difference is that the internet was young and social media consisted of USENET and BBS/boards... so their reach/power was a lot smaller.

I fully agree that Barry's crew kicked things into high gear and I agree completely with the globalist angle. But again, history is what it is. All the same tactics existed to one degree or another. Whether stalking (on and offline), attempts to intimidate via exposure...all the 'standard' SJW BS. So if a difference exists, I think it's only in degree.
 
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For what it's worth I like Monica's voice work. Might be my overall favorite female VA.

Of course this is purely in terms of her work. This recent shitshow is another matter entirely.

TUG had a fantastic observation about this sort of thing on Nick’s stream last night, I paraphrase, but he noted “they always insist that we must separate the Art from the Artist. But why? We don’t do this for any other profession? You don’t look at your Plumber and say He might be an honest to god Nazi, but he fixed my leaks real good!” He’s right. No other profession gets this mysterious exemption from standards of behavior.
 
TUG had a fantastic observation about this sort of thing on Nick’s stream last night, I paraphrase, but he noted “they always insist that we must separate the Art from the Artist. But why? We don’t do this for any other profession? You don’t look at your Plumber and say He might be an honest to god Nazi, but he fixed my leaks real good!” He’s right. No other profession gets this mysterious exemption from standards of behavior.


My reply to "Separate the art from the artist" has always been as follows...

When every artist claims that they are a part of their art/it is an expression of themselves/soul etc., then you cannot separate them. They, by their own admission, are one and the same.
 
My reply to "Separate the art from the artist" has always been as follows...

When every artist claims that they are a part of their art/it is an expression of themselves/soul etc., then you cannot separate them. They, by their own admission, are one and the same.
the only time "seperate art from artist" is acceptable is when the artist is an autistic spaz and as such cannot accurately express themselves unless they do so through art.
 
TUG had a fantastic observation about this sort of thing on Nick’s stream last night, I paraphrase, but he noted “they always insist that we must separate the Art from the Artist. But why? We don’t do this for any other profession? You don’t look at your Plumber and say He might be an honest to god Nazi, but he fixed my leaks real good!” He’s right. No other profession gets this mysterious exemption from standards of behavior.

Why would I even know my plumber was a Nazi in the first place? Unless he shows up in a Race War Van and does nothing but rant about the Jews instead of doing his job, I'm not going to know.

And given the choice between having a Nazi plumber and being waist deep in water, I'm still not going to give a shit if he's a Nazi.

the only time "seperate art from artist" is acceptable is when the artist is an autistic spaz and as such cannot accurately express themselves unless they do so through art.

Chinatown isn't any less of a classic movie because Polanski is a disgusting child molester. If anything, only a sick individual would have made that movie. I might choose to pirate it to avoid giving him any more money, but it's not going to be de-canonized.
 
TUG had a fantastic observation about this sort of thing on Nick’s stream last night, I paraphrase, but he noted “they always insist that we must separate the Art from the Artist. But why? We don’t do this for any other profession? You don’t look at your Plumber and say He might be an honest to god Nazi, but he fixed my leaks real good!” He’s right. No other profession gets this mysterious exemption from standards of behavior.
Forgive me if I’m being crass in my opinion, but I hold that either all of it is okay or none of it is.

I don’t go asking my barber or waiter for their opinions on politics; if they do their job competently, I could care less what their ideas and opinions are, within boundaries of course. Same applies for any artist or actor.

So if they went around saying “It doesn’t how good they are, they still deserve judgement”, that should also apply to them. If you’re going to be an asshole, whatever anime you were anime won’t matter then and there.
 
his body language too. he literally acts like a bitchy high school girl. when he started clapping on nick's stream and how he moves when he's trying to reaffirm a point. really stands out when he's right next to nick who acts like an actual man

The man is a loser who passes hot checks. It says something that he's that kind of person and is yet one of the only kickvic types who have even momentarily expressed qualms at the repulsive things his side does.
 
TUG had a fantastic observation about this sort of thing on Nick’s stream last night, I paraphrase, but he noted “they always insist that we must separate the Art from the Artist. But why? We don’t do this for any other profession? You don’t look at your Plumber and say He might be an honest to god Nazi, but he fixed my leaks real good!” He’s right. No other profession gets this mysterious exemption from standards of behavior.
I used to be all about separating the art from the artist, until these artists started ranting about crap on twitter and actively shitting on fans for not having the same beliefs as them.

These days if an artist is a cunt I'm just going to avoid their work as much as possible, why would I want to give money to cunts.
 
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