Shane Holmberg / Shane Presley Holmberg - The Containment Cell for The Breaker of Chairs, Eater of Shoes, Groomer of His Child Bride

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Ironically I have also been probably the only person on the other side to say over and over again publicly to not call Vic a pedophile.
X, X and more X. You've been contradicting yourself so many times it's practically a meme at this point. What I will give you credit for is not being cool with doxxing children. However, you haven't been straightforward and giving deflecting and condescending answers when challenged.
 
That is a damn good question. I would think that at the end of the day people start putting morals above profits. And I will leave that statement there.
no. no no. don't advocate that. trust me.

instead, advocate if anything that treating people as customers (not the customer is always right nonsense they used to teach, the new stuff, that people are human and if you have to take 5) is much more profitable than treating people like shit. and make it go both ways.
 
Not trying to be an ass but my question was more of WHY you choose to spend so much work at anime conventions when you don't watch anime
It's weird to start conventions based on things you don't give a shit about and I wanna know what's the driving force behind it

Because people enjoy it and I like the challenges. I have a new one that is literally community run. A bunch of people including guests, attendees, vendors, and staffers and whenever we have a question we bring it to a general chat and say what do you want to do and whoever is online answers and we do it. No matter how crazy we try because it is a challenge.

With bigger shows, there are a million pieces to it. There is always a puzzle and challenge to pull it off. I do it for being able to do it.
 
if what you claim is true is in fact true, then yeah but what'll actually happen is such places just make contracts a bit more professional and make sure that shit like this can't happen.

worst case, the industry burns down because japan decides we're too fucking exceptional to be trusted for a couple decades and we just need to accept subs.
Nausicaa and the Valley of the wind comes to mind.....
 
I think Vic suing people like Funi, VAs, or cons would make things even worse for him. But I have said that from the beginning.
Worse how? Vic is in a “nothing to lose scenario”
That is a damn good question. I would think that at the end of the day people start putting morals above profits. And I will leave that statement there.
Do you honestly, on God, believe that what the KickVic side has done is an example of putting morals first?
 
X, X and more X. You've been contradicting yourself so many times it's practically a meme at this point. What I will give you credit for is not being cool with doxxing children. However, you haven't been straightforward and giving deflecting and condescending answers when challenged.

There are some things I can't answer. I mean that is just the way it is. Someone shows me X and says hey look at this. I can't go get on Twitter and show the world because then that X will never get shown to me again.
 
Worse how? Vic is in a “nothing to lose scenario”

Do you honestly, on God, believe that what the KickVic side has done is an example of putting morals first?
he doesn't and if he does he is lying. nothing they've done is short of atrocious. the only way they could be any more dishonorable is if they straight up started killing people.
 
That is a damn good question. I would think that at the end of the day people start putting morals above profits. And I will leave that statement there.

Here's another damn good question. Why is it that you associate yourself with a group of degenerate animals in human skin that fraudulently used the picture of a disabled girl to lie about sexual assault?
 
Here's another damn good question. Why is it that you associate yourself with a group of degenerate animals in human skin that fraudulently used the picture of a disabled girl to lie about sexual assault?
he's not going to answer that. he's ignored me so at this point i'm certain he's picking and choosing because he knows where he stands. and it's not in a position of good intentions or morality like he wants to be.

it is possible he wants to be good but can't find a way to be, but its more likely he's just a piece of shit.
 
@Shane_Yes_That_One, first off, welcome to the Farms, hope you enjoy your stay.

I would like to clarify something you may not be aware of concerning doxing, why we do it and our reasons, and I hope this is instructive.

Doxing, in and of itself, so long as it contains no information that would be criminal to release like credit card numbers and other sensitive information of that nature, is not illegal. Potentially scummy, maybe, but not illegal.

Second, we dox for entertainment and archival purposes, not to do any deliberate harm that is not already done by it being available elsewhere, as we basically mine information anyone who can use a web browser can find and collate it here. We have no desire to do anything criminal by doing so, and it's a forum policy to condemn anyone who does so and to laugh at them for being fools.

Finally, I would like to say I am glad you do draw the line at doxing a child, that is an honorable scruple, but before you claim hypocrisy on our part by including dox on people who have posted information on their children, I remind you they posted such information in public, thus gave away their privacy in the process.

I hope that information is useful for you.
 
There are some things I can't answer. I mean that is just the way it is. Someone shows me X and says hey look at this. I can't go get on Twitter and show the world because then that X will never get shown to me again.
Even if thats true you can't be surprised that people dont blindly take your word for it considering you and your side's credibility has only degraded over time and have failed at discrediting opposing points time after time.
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he's not going to answer that. he's ignored me so at this point i'm certain he's picking and choosing because he knows where he stands. and it's not in a position of good intentions or morality like he wants to be.

it is possible he wants to be good but can't find a way to be, but its more likely he's just a piece of shit.

He doesn't want to be anything but what his actions show him to be. An accessory. If he wanted to be good, he'd stop the lies, evasion and attacks.
 
Worse how? Vic is in a “nothing to lose scenario”

Do you honestly, on God, believe that what the KickVic side has done is an example of putting morals first?

Other stuff that comes out which has not come out yet and he has other jobs and stuff which could be impacted.

I think there are MANY on the kickvic side who made everything worse/
 
There are some things I can't answer. I mean that is just the way it is. Someone shows me X and says hey look at this. I can't go get on Twitter and show the world because then that X will never get shown to me again.
That wont matter if some charming Texan ladies decide to sit you down and give you a grilling.

We've been told time and time again to just trust kickvic that the evidence and statements are there and every time some one gives up some details it gets blown apart in less than a day. So excuse me for not believing a single thing you say. There's still a chance for you to do the right thing and escape from this madness with some shred of a soul, if not for your sake but for the sake of those who depend on you.
 
Other stuff that comes out which has not come out yet and he has other jobs and stuff which could be impacted.

I think there are MANY on the kickvic side who made everything worse/

I am sure you can understand why we can not believe evidence we have only heard rumors about. Proof is required from the accuser in such cases.

I would also think if any kid got molested, the guilty va would have been in an angry father's crosshairs for years.

So far I have seen no evidence of any shotgun daddy issues with Vic.
 
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