Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Alright, so it took me nearly all day but I finally managed to get time stamps on things in that whole 6 hour stream exposing Perfection @SinglePlayerCarl @Thales_of_Miletus @Captain Manning and anyone else interested in that whole beef, here you go. I'll highlight good lol's or interesting points. Also warning: Long ass post incoming.

Here's the vid link again:


03:30 Stream Starts/MBA on the backstory to why he’s streaming now and the whole Perfection Drama

07:29 Story time into the Gay Ops MBA and the league ran on Perfection. (Effectively this is debunking all his response to videos calling him out)
  • 10:46 Deleted User=Perfection Alt Account
    • 53:25 Geekdom says Perfection claims the account is fake
    • 13:14 Proving Perfection had the pedo discord
    • 16:12 Totally SpiesTM (16:53 “All I had to do to get his trust was to post hentai”)
    • 1:02:13-1:03:00 Discord Name Colours Changing
  • Pedofection & Hentai Girls
    • 29:09
    • 12:19 HE TRIED TO FUCK A 17 YO BOY!!!
    • 1:04:42-1:05:40 “Lemme suck ya dick Big Dick Rodney”
    • 47:31 – 49:10
    • 49:33-50:00
    • 50:21-53:25
    • 55:02
    • 59:41-1:00:30
    • 1:01:00-1:02:10
    • 1:03:05-1:04:06
    • 1:04:23-1:04:40
    • 1:06:56-1:08:00
    • 1:11:42-1:13:36
    • 1:36:52 He ain’t family friendly
  • 34:03 Debunking Perfection’s Geekdom Vids
    • 35:35 He doxed Terez and BulmaBunny
    • 35:46/1:15:35-1:15:55/1:27:40-1:29:00 He hardly gets stream views without some controversy (eg. Geekdom Exposed/Vic situation)
    • 39:07 Perfection starts trying to defend himself on his own stream
    • 39:51 Keyblades chosen vs Geekdom beef
  • 44:10 Doxxing Perfection
    • 44:27/1:13:40-1:14:55 FUCKING PRICELESS FUSION DANCE!!!
    • 45:59/1:08:18 Gofundme because he and his sister were apparently homeless
    • 1:10:12-1:11:40/1:44:14 Pics
    • 1:21:55-1:26:31 “Get Out that woman House”
    • 1:29:26 He has a criminal record, MBA threatens to expose it
    • 1:30:17 Perfection is apparently 28
Perfection tries defending himself (before joining the discord)
  • 57:30-59:40 Perfection tries to invite MBA on a google hangout-MBAs declines and explains why
  • 1:04:07-01:04:20 Perfection calls MBA a coward on his stream
  • 1:05:40-1:05:50 “Fake Accounts/Fake Pictures”
  • 1:15:59-1:20:30 Takes his stream down and starts another stream to ignore MBA
  • 1:39:30 – 1:40:28/1:41:49 – 1:44:10/1:46:42 – 1: MBA: “I’ll bring his ass on my stream right now”
  • 1:49:06/1:50:43 – 1:51:53 Perfection tries to get MBA join his discord
  • 1:49:50 “He gonna put you in your place MBA”
  • 1:50:09 Perfection agrees to join the discord
  • 1:52:11 – 2:00:20 Perfection asks for an invite to MBA’s discord (idiots in the chat mess up one time use link, link doesn’t work because he has a banned account on MBAs server + other technical difficulties)
1:00:30 Kals Kingdom joins in the stream chat
1:26:40 Oppai Senpai Joins
  • 1:30:37 Drops $50, MBA says he’s going to use it to buy Perfection’s criminal record
1:30:45 – 1:36:50 MBA Rant on Perfection (happens throughout the whole stream tbh, can’t be arsed to actually notarise all of it)

1:38:18 – 1:39:29/1:40:30 – 1:41:47 They read some of the comments on Perfections current stream
1:48:20 Prince Vegeta joins the chat
1:49:34 Stream link starts getting spammed throughout twitter
2:00:21 Perfection joins the chat

Meat & Potatoes

2:01:47 – 2:03:20 Perfection explains why he brought up MBAs wife and kids in the video he put up that day + MBAs response

2:03:21 – 2:04:20 Perfections live streams and subs

2:04:20 – 2:04:52 Pedofection

2:04:54 – 2:05:40 Debate on Codesly, Kal’s Kingdom etc. (basically perfection thinks it’s a coincidence everyone who’s watching the stream dissing him is a person who hates him)

2:05:46 – 2:06:12/2:07:43 – 2:10:45 Debate on Geekdom cheating on his wife and Perfection’s videos on the topic

2:06:17 – 2:06:50 “Respect the guest on your stream”

2:06:42 – 2:07:32 Tommy Sotomayor and MBA Squashed beef a year ago

2:07:33 – 2:07:42 “I showed proof against your daddy Geekdom”

2:10:46 – 2:11:48 UnrealEntGaming, Subs and Views

2:11:49 – 2:13:32 Perfection is working and debunking the house dox + MBAs response

2:13:33 – 2:71:29 MBA and Perfection debating on why MBA has a problem with Perfection and debunking his “evidence” against Geekdom

2:17:30 Oppai Senpai Joins

2:17:47 – 2:18:35 Debating the Dox on BulmaBunny and Terez

2:18:37 – 2:21:28/3:01:19 – 3:03:00/3:03:56 – 3:05:36 Oppai talks to Perfection on his videos, research and ethics

2:21:30 – 2:22:02 Next Level joins, says he has evidence of perfection lying and leaves

2:22:02 – 2:25:24 Perfection and MBA’s relationship/conflict (+ the #MeToo Movement and outrage culture)

2:25:24 – 2:29:57/2:45:12 – 2:50:45/2:58:28 – 2:59:40 Debate on Perfections multiple discords + accounts and pedo msgs

2:29:59 - 2:31:06 Perfection taking shots at MBA for dropping out of college, MBAs savage responses (2:30:49 - 2:31:01 OOOOOOFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!)

2:31:07 – 2:32:06 Oppai tries to help Perfection make his channel better

2:32:08 – 2:38:23 They show Perfection’s link to his pedo discord + Perfection’s response

2:38:24 – 2:40:30/2:50:47 – 2:57:00 Oppai talks about a Perfection video being taken down by YT cos he threatened violence on someone else + Perfections denial

2:40:32 – 2:41:12/2:42:50 – 2:44:55 T-Rez and her copyright claims

2:41:13 – 2:42:48 Debate on why Perfection doesn’t just make vids on WeebWars/Vic situation + Perfection’s Response

2:57:01 – 2:58:10 Perfection’s hypocrisy

2:59:41 – 3:0118 Perfection Calls MBA a coward + MBAs response

3:03:02 – 3:03:55 MBA addresses Perfection’s obsession with Geekdom

3:05:38 – 3:06:30 Perfection & BulmaBunny

3:06:41 Geekdom Joins

Spergy Autism Begins

3:06:48 – 3:07:20 Perfection, Shut up and let Geekdom talk

3:07:22 – 3:08:12/3:10:22 – 3:11:34 Geekdom: “I’ve moved past drama and be at peace”
  • 3:11:07 – 3:11:20 Apparently Funimation don’t/can’t work with Geekdom because Toei is mad at him for spoiling the return of super (that has yet to be officially announced)
3:08:13 – 3:08:38 Perfection leaves, Coward

3:08:40 Perfection returns

3:09:14 – 3:10:20 ALEX JONES!!! Oppai on Ethics, research and bans on YT

3:11:35 – 3:12:12 Geekdom claims Perfection edited the audio where he says he hates db fans

3:12:14 – 3:17:10/3:17:51 – 3:18:16 Geekdom addresses Perfection on the multiple vids he made
  • 3:13:31 Forneverworld and Geekdom apparently squashed their beef. (Idk whether they’re still talking tho, given their opposing stances on the Vic situation and the way Fornever was targeted by people in Geekdom’s circle)
  • 3:13:54 Geekdom doesn’t work for Funi
  • 3:15:05 Apparently doesn’t want to get involved in Vic drama (but constantly likes comments or things around KickVic movement) and debunks the relationship bet. Himself and Vic
  • 3:15:20 That shit is totally going to court
  • 3:16:08 Perfection: “When are you about to be done?” (Everyone in the voice chat dog piles him)
  • 3:16:30 – 3:16:50 Kendamu Z
  • 3:17:03 Geekdom “I don’t doxx people”
3:17:10 – 3:17:50 MBA takes control of the chat again and addresses Perfections views if he doesn’t bring up drama

3:18:18 – 3:20:57 Perfection claims Geekdom started the beef over two years ago (then starts explaining it)
  • 3:19:47 – 3:20:57 Geekdom disputes Perfections claims that he steps on channels with smaller subs by claiming that he has done over 70 collaborations with channels smaller than him. MBA agrees.
  • 3:20:20 – 3:20:57 Perfection: “Cos he wanted you to stop roasting him” Geekdom: “He still does it”
3:21:04 – 3:23:52 Perfection challenges their logic on their evidence vs his evidence. MBA responds.
  • 3:22:38 – 3:23:11 Geekdom addresses the screenshot of him allegedly cheating on his wife
3:23:53 – 3:24:53 Geekdom addresses Perfection on bringing up his beefs from the past
  • 3:24:14 Prince Vegeta Joins the chat
3:24:53 – 3:29:27 Perfection finally reveals what Geekdom did to him personally (they were crap talking him behind his back on a discord server, while he was in the server with Codesly). Geekdom responds
  • 3:26:09 J-Cloud Joins the chat
  • 3:28:30 – 3:29:27 MBA adds Keyblades Chosen, Geekdom talks about Keyblade as well, saying they squashed their beef, Keyblade says he’s disappointed in Perfection because he slandered Geekdom
3:29:28 – 3:30:25 Geekdom on Perfection’s personal life issues
  • 3:30:20 Resident King rejoins the Chat
  • 3:30:23 Matt the story teller rejoins the chat
3:30:25 – 3:31:40 Addressing Perfection bringing up old beefs

3:31:40 – 3:35:54 Geekdom addressing his own arrogance, ego and racism etc. Perfection response
  • 3:34:38 Apparently Geekdom’s father was part black
3:35:45 – 3:38:09 Back on the Geekdom Cheating allegations
  • 3:56:39 ORGY!!!
3:38:09 – 3:39:20 Perfection’s Claims that Geekdom sold out Vic for a role at Funi
  • 3:38:40 – 3:38:47 Geekdom confirms the voice acting role he bragged about on Twitter was for MasakoX not Funi
3:39:34 – 3:40:48 Prince Vegeta talks about BulmaBunny and him dating
  • 3:40:05 – 3:40:21 BulmaBunny had sex with someone, Not Geekdom, but Geekdom knows who it was (someone in the call)
3:41:00 - 3:46:50 Debate again on Perfection making videos on Geekdom and how to address and resolve beefs (DMs exist)
  • 3:43:00 – 3:43:30 Perfection makes the point that he never said any of the beefs he brought up were present beefs, he only wanted to make it known what Geekdom has done in the past
  • 3:44:05 – 3:46:10 Geekdom explains what happened with Team infinite (VoiceOfMalzar Twitter = Mark Malzar)
3:46:53 – 3:48:39 Perfection explains that he doesn’t clout chase (brings up going after Rhymestyle in the past, and then dropping the beef when he realised that Rhymestyle was a decent person). MBA and Oppai replies

3:48:41 – 3:49:37 Perfection claims everyone is ganging up on him
  • 3:48:54 Geekdom agrees that they shouldn’t gang up on Perfection but wants the same respect Perfection gave to Rhymestyle when they were beefing
Things get fucking Repetitive (and I can’t be arsed if I missed something from here on forward)
3:49:40 – 3:57:42 Perfection, Oppai and Geekdom address his fake facts in Perfection vids

3:57:45 – 4:06:53 Perfection expose vids
  • 4:00:59 Emosh Joins the chat
  • 4:01:43 Geekdom shows how many collabs he’s done with smaller channels (basically jerking off himself off, Majority of the people on the list are in his circle/his friend’s)
  • 4:04:26 Geekdom on why ANBU Black Ops Vid was taken down
  • 4:05:55 – 4:06:46 Prince Vegeta turns the chat to Perfection’s comment on Prince Vegeta vs BulmaBunny and sexualising characters
  • 4:06:15 Geekdom asks for someone to bring in Chuck the cyber cuck (another of Geekdom’s friends) in the text chat
  • 4:06:35 Carthu Joins the chat
4:06:57 – 4:09:21 Forgiveness and Perfection’s Channel

4:09:21 – 4:14:25 Perfection comments on where Geekdom is getting his ‘false’ info from on him (Codesly) and why Geekdom doesn’t like him + Geekdom response
  • 4:10:17 Geekdom’s follow list (he never addresses why he follows Soye from more than a year back, but he is following Vic so Perfection lied)
4:14:30 – 4:17:10/4:18:00 – 4:20:05/4:20:55 Perfection views and subs

4:17:17 – 4:18:00 Geekdom: “Look at all the good stuff I’ve done”

4:20:08 – 4:20:54 Geekdom apologises and explains

4:21:03 – 4:30:30 Geekdom and Oppai offer to squash the beef. Perfection tries to weasel out of it (This could literally be the title of the rest of the stream)
  • 4:22:41 Oppai tells Perfection to get everything he has left to expose on everyone else out now and delete/private the vids made
  • 4:23:43 Prince Vegeta: “I don’t like your face Geekdom” Geekdom: “Yeah I look like uncle fester”
  • 4:24:00 MBA: “Geekdom I think you’re the fanboy king”
  • 4:24:56 – 4:26:56 Perfection: “Why do you dox people Geekdom?” Geekdom: “I don’t” (technically yes he does, it’s all public info)
  • 4:29:02 Perfection’s name is Carrian
4:30:32 – 4:32:10 Perfection: “I’m not doing this for me, I’m doing this for the community”

4:32:10 – 4:52:50 Trying to squash the beef again. Perfection doesn’t want to (again)
  • 4:32:38 Youtuber’s in the chat
  • 4:33:25 A #Humblebrag by Geekdom on super
  • 4:34:11 Emosh joins on voice chat (for who knows what reason, they were getting nowhere with Perfection anyway, and Emosh literally just reiterates the same points the others made several times)
  • 4:35:15 Geekdom asks Emosh (who he’s had issues with previously but resolved, so “unbiased opinion”) to vouch for him that the community likes him
  • 4:37:44 Perfection on why his sources would probably be afraid to come forward to back up his claims
  • 4:39:31 Prince Vegeta: “If you’re about the community, why haven’t you made a vid on me yet?”
  • 4:44:12 MBA: “But who are you to decide who is hurting the community?”
  • 4:45:51 Wife/Mother/Grandmother Debate
  • 4:46:26 Geekdom: “What do you want from me to end this?” Perfection: “Undo the pain you’ve done to the community”
  • 4:47:13 J-Cloud: “Stop talking to him, He’s a brick wall”
  • 4:49:00 Geekdom apologises to anyone he’s wronged
  • 4:51:54 “Ya want him to suck your dick bruh, is that it?”
  • 4:52:10 Hitomi Tanaka
4:52:52 – 5:00:03 Perfection gives his demands for Geekdom and everyone’s response to it
  • 4:53:20 “Voice of the people”
  • 4:54:24 Geekdom reveals why he’s squashing all beefs (he’s working through some illnesses)
  • 4:56:08 Oppai extends an olive branch to Perfection for the future
  • 4:56:47 Inherited Beef
  • 5:59:22 You can’t reason with some people
  • 4:59:38 Perfection starts getting pissed off at the previous comment
  • 4:59:49 King calls Perfection a paedophile
  • 5:00:03 Perfection Leaves
Conclusion

5:00:03 – 5:00:45 Everyone (except J-cloud and MBA) gets pissed at King because they think they were close to resolving shit with Perfection

5:00:47 – 5:01:56 MBA gives the bottom line and defends King and J-Cloud
  • 5:01:58 Apparently Perfection is saying on his stream he wants to go to war with everyone involved in the chat
5:02:07 – 5:19:18 Guys try to explain the point to king and J-cloud. Everyone responds
  • 5:03:19 King again tries to defend his comment, Emosh explains why this would technically be a win for Perfection
  • 5:04:58 Perfection claims he was going to squash the beef on his stream
  • 5:04:16 Prince Vegeta says Perfection was just looking for a chance to leave and King gave it to him
  • 5:04:48 Emosh blurb (spam the stream if he gets out of line again)
  • 5:06:52 Geekdom: “Somebody needs to cut out the part where I said I was willing to move past all this” (oooo, naughty naughty Geekdom, thought you wanted to avoid drama)
  • 5:08:08 MBA: ”If you don’t like what he’s doing, Flag his shit or shut up”
  • 5:08:50/5:11:45 Oppai: “The offer for reconciliation still stands”
  • 5:10:08 Geekdom: “Bottom line, I addressed, debunked all his shit and tried to squash it”
  • 5:12:10 MBA: “Momma always told me…”
  • 5:13:30 Geekdom still doesn’t feel like he made any progress with Perfection
5:14:25 MBA encourages the bigger youtubers to destroy smaller tubers who cause problems
  • 5:17:37 – 5:19:00 Geekdom and Oppai cover their asses + MBA response to it
5:17:24 MBA: “Of course I’m giving you all blowjobs, that’s why yall here”

5:19:18 Perfection says he’s going to flag MBAs channel

5:20:45 – 5:21:30 Perfection rejoins with some BS that it’s now even more personal

5:21:48 – 6:01:10 Geekdom makes his offer again and he and Perfection come to an agreement
  • Some other shit as well dealing with disputes, like the videos and whether they’ll be deleted or privated and how they’re going to deal if people lie on Geekdom. I honestly can’t be arsed anymore this is all just repetitive

So, basically, Perfection is the leech we know him as and Geekdom is not clean, either.
The question is who was the bigger cow in this situation?
 
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So, this has been moving really fast. I saw @Shane_Yes_That_One answering the parts of questions he felt like, but dodging the meat of the questions for a good part of last night...

Did he ever answer these two?
  1. Has he actually seen any evidence of Vic's wrongdoing, or is he taking this on the full faith and credit of the VAs involved?
  2. Since he has now argued what Vic did down to "being inappropriate", what exactly does "being inappropriate" mean? Off color jokes? A poorly timed "Nice rear, madam?"
he claims to have seen evidence and has evidence but won't show it because cons and companies will blacklist him apparently.

not clear either.
 
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Either the nerdfag clique (Geekdom's) is delusional/crazy AF...or they need to tell this lies to try to bring more people, and to not cry about their stupid idea...

:story::story::story: yeah I mean KC rather be called molest-fest given how much "interfering" that's been going on since the con started. What an inflated sense of ego this cunt has. I can't wait till Terez shows up at Jordan Con and posts some similar spergy shit :story::story:
 
he claims to have seen evidence and has evidence but won't show it because cons and companies will blacklist him apparently.

not clear either.
dont forget dodging the questions of how long he knew his friend before marrying his daughter, that he knew her when she was underage, and his own sexual assault allegations
#IBelieveVictims
 
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Remember, Japanese VAs are considered celebrities in their own right, easily A/B list and right below actual actors and well within the same tier as idols.
Reminder that, unless you are one of the legendary mangakas that created or marked an era, like Toriyama, Osamu Tezuka and more, the VAs are usually even more famous, in Japan, than the mangakas that created the franchise they voice. Once again, with the legendary mangakas mentioned before being the exceptions.
 
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he claims to have seen evidence and has evidence but won't show it because cons and companies will blacklist him apparently.

not clear either.

That's a real sign of someone doing the right thing, so according to Shane, Vic has done such evil things and has seen the proof. But yet after he goes on record and calls Vic a pedo several times, it isn't evil enough for him to risk getting blacklisted from the con circuit.

Real stand up guy that @Shane_Yes_That_One is! If the world were going to shit, that is a guy you want on your side!
 
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So, basically, Perfection is the leech we know him as and Geekdom is not clean, either.
The question is who was the bigger in this situation?

Perfection lost hard. By being the stupid asshole that he is, he lost any valid points he had against Geekdom because he kept on bringing other people into his beef, didn't bother to fact check his info and is a pedo.

There's some interesting stuff brought up about Geekdom in the stream, but nothing that can concretely tie him to the Igor role or anything else really. He should still be on the watch list though no matter how badly he denies not wanting to get involved in Vic vs Monica
 
I know that. I just wanted to put info in perspective for how much of an egotistical cunt sabat. Faggot's self esteem is off the roof. It would only be sweet justice to see this asshole burned to ground.

The man is an absolute piece of shit and a backstabbing cowardly piece of garbage on the level of the scummiest anime villain. Actually, they usually don't make them as despicable as Sabatage.

I hope he is Iago because Beard definitely has some "special time" chalked out for that motherfucker.
 
Remember, Japanese VAs are considered celebrities in their own right, easily A/B list and right below actual actors and well within the same tier as idols.

They often are idols or pop singers. Seiyu are often recruited from and for singing ability as the skillsets transfer better than the north american approach of using actors.
 
dont forget dodging the questions of how long he knew his friend before marrying his daughter, that he knew her when she was underage, and his own sexual assault allegations
#IBelieveVictims
don't even forget the part about where he proved two different civil conspiracies. he confirmed broken stairs and then proved there was a conspiracy against vic because he was a convinient scapegoat.
 
So, basically, Perfection is the leech we know him as and Geekdom is not clean, either.
The question is who was the bigger cow in this situation?
We will have to wait and see, if Geekdom continues to be the way he is then perfections will the bigger Lolcow unless BigD Rod got bigger skeletons in his closet.
 
A better picture of the Beard, don't know why Twitter thinks the picture is "sensitive material"
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https://twitter.com/Turpinroll12/status/1117140173995814915
https://archive.is/0SIAO
 
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