Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

So the defense has to rely on the believably of the defendant? Because the person being sued will be the only person who can provide any evidence of any sexual assault, since she and Vic are the only witnesses.

So, my speculation back in early March was right: the defendant's credibility has to be destroyed. What would Marchi and Rial have done to destroy their credibility specifically, since they're probably being sued directly? The civil conspiracy or the malice tweets/DMs that were revealed?

It's more of a question of what have they said since this started that didn't nuke their credibility? At least Marchi had the sense to STFU eventually.

Ron Soye has probably done more damage to Monica than Monica has done to herself and it will be hard for her to extricate herself from anything he said just being considered him acting as a mouthpiece.
 
It's more of a question of what have they said since this started that didn't nuke their credibility? At least Marchi had the sense to STFU eventually.

Ron Soye has probably done more damage to Monica than Monica has done to herself and it will be hard for her to extricate herself from anything he said just being considered him acting as a mouthpiece.
Civil conspiracy would rope them all together too, right?
 
Renfamous, RenfamousX, and RaisedByWolves are now banned, correct?
Renfamous: Suspended until she deletes some tweets that she stubbornly refuses to delete because "Twitter is going to review it and see that the tweets were falsely flagged and I did nothing wrong"... for 5+ days and counting, I think?

RenfamousX: Still active and tweeting. Apparently she's had to do a couple of CAPTCHAs to prove that she's not a spam bot. Reporting the profile for spam is evidently not very effective.

RaisedByWolves: Got scared and deleted their account.
 
The fact that someone was going to try and paint Vic in a bad light somehow during or after KC

Oh, I see. Well, let's wait for tomorrow. They failed today and the day after is D-Day. I'm waiting for them to get desperate tomorrow.
 
Anyway, I am trying to put myself in their shoes for a minute, and if I am correct, the kickvic side is basically relying on the funimation investigation as their penultimate defense as to why Vic is a "predator".
But then again, that line of defense will have similar outcome with the TRO on mentaljess. it is stupid to argue that Vic is a "predator" that is why it is ok to defame him, and interfere with his business contracts
 
Renfamous: Suspended until she deletes some tweets that she stubbornly refuses to delete because "Twitter is going to review it and see that the tweets were falsely flagged and I did nothing wrong"... for 5+ days and counting, I think?

RenfamousX: Still active and tweeting. Apparently she's had to do a couple of CAPTCHAs to prove that she's not a spam bot. Reporting the profile for spam is evidently not very effective.

RaisedByWolves: Got scared and deleted their account.

I know what she's doing here. She's put her main on 'hold' for a while so that if X gets banned she can go back and say 'This isn't an alt, the other one was', just by deleting the requested tweet. It's harder to get banned if you're not actively saying new stupid things on the account.

Anyway, I am trying to put myself in their shoes for a minute, and if I am correct, the kickvic side is basically relying on the funimation investigation as their penultimate defense as to why Vic is a "predator".
But then again, that line of defense will have similar outcome with the TRO on mentaljess. it is stupid to argue that Vic is a "predator" that is why it is ok to defame him, and interfere with his business contracts

You mean absolute/ultimate/supreme. 'Penultimate' would mean it's their second-to-last resort. Which might be possible if option one is SLAPP, two is the bad investigation and three is covering their ears and screaming until the lawyer goes away.
 
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There are going to be 4 defendants for the initial lawsuit. Place your bets ladies and gents.

My money is on Funimation, Monica Rial, Ron Toye and Jaime Marchie.

I don't have an alternate suggestion to fill the gap, but if Monica is REEgor then she can't be in the first round. If she gets served in round one we'll know she's not that, at least. Maybe part of me is secretly hoping she is so that Ron can be forced to supply all the ammo against her months in advance and she has to stew for a while knowing that.

Username is "Bad Dragonite." Taking bets: Pokemon fan, or reptillian dildo aficionado? I've got 2:1 on both.

I dunno about any of those things, but that name often superchats on Nick's streams

#HowEmbarrassing!
"Mr. Holmberg, how long did you know your wife's father before you married her?"

I think a better worded, or follow up question might be "how long did you know your wife's father before you started screwing her?" Who says he waited until the wedding?
 
He could probably invoke privilege on most of what he could testify about anyway. He either is privy to nothing other than what anyone who can look at the public information already knows, or if he did become privy to knowledge as part of collecting money as a service, albeit a free one, for the defense, it's work-product. Anything he did relating to retaining representation for Vic or as part of helping those representatives is privileged.
Or newsman's privilege, given his main role in this has been simply to report on the news on the case in a fairly neutral manner (something Anime News Network can't claim).
 
Whew finally caught up

I have to wonder, considering the conspiracy aspect, if this stunt hasn't gotten her and her accomplices kicked up the ladder or perhaps entered on the list of people who will actually be sued rather than (edit "JUST") deposed.

I really don't think Dominique should be sued. It's far more embarrassing to have her publically state the truth of why she was there, issue a public apology and hand her a restraining order the prevents her from talking about the whole Vic situation. These THOTS feed on attention, cut off her ability to comment on this situation and she quickly goes back to the depths of obscurity and irrelevance.

What's great about this is Emoshislive and Sen have gotten ahead of Skye so its going to look really great if she tries to cash in on her "Victimhood".

Won't and Didn't stop her.

I'm at least a little curious whether Kamehacon was tipped off that Skye was on her way there to make trouble.

I really doubt it, because no one who knew she was there or going to be there was against her or have reason to be there. Her appearance was completely out of the blue Looks more like a testament to just how eagle eyed and quick to respond the KC security and staff were


Is he mocking her by doing that with his teeth ? :story::story::story:

...giving her two inches...

Guess that's something both her shoes and Husband have in common :story: Guess that's also why he's probably a cuck

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REEEE nobody's signal boosting me!!!

:story::story::story: It's the day that just keeps on giving !!!

Also judging from the screen names and the way they seem to be absolutely obsessed with Monica and Dominique, I have a feeling this guy and Lupinfan83 are run by the same guy

You know who's also probably chimping out right about now?

PULL.

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That reminds me, need to see what those retards are up to now that Dominique was tossed out

I really wish Emosh would post it already, though. It would really help. I hate this blueballing.

When is Emosh going to post the video?

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From what i've seen/heard, he's still waiting on the footage. It wouldn't surprise me if we don't get the footage cos of some reasons KC staff have.

Dominique is a curious kind of feminist. I'm not sure I get it.

The rule is simple. YOU MALE YOU LOSE ??

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From Unreal's twitter, the dinner that Vic just had today. This just screams winner to me. Meanwhile, La Choy and Rial are in their home, soaked, and drinking soy tard cum

Is this Monica or Dominique? :story: You know, Japan censors that sort of shit

Also, I'm not doubting Monica swallows cum, i just really doubt it would be Soy cum. If ya catch ma drift ?


I love their hypocrisy

Guys, now that i think about it, what about the other VA's that pussied out? They weren't on Rial's hippy picnic. I meant Daman Milles, the gay substitute frieza, and the sister of the pedophile florida man.

...don't tell me they ditched her too? :story:

Sarah probably had to drop because she's dealing with all of that Jazz with her brother. Appearing at Monica's completely obscure con wouldn't have helped her wrt that. Luckily god is great, Gave her some insta Karma with her brother and since she effectively defamed the only con where she might've actually gotten a decent homeward haul, she had to stay home and cry about it. If not, the 4 of them likely stayed home for their daily orgy.

As for the others, I can't say, they probably have more brains than Monica to know that if you're going to make claims that she made, you'd rather stay home to make your statement rather than go host your own signing a small drive away for what is quite obviously a cash grab and blows your argument of security tight out the water.

If we continue like this, we will get enough to make a whole ost soundtrack for an anime :story:

Well, this is all sort of like an anime/movie/tv series in the first place, that's literally all we need.

The hero (Vic) get's beaten to a pulp by a bunch of (evil) people who dont like him (KickVic, you can decide on the big bads in the Cabal, but Sabat is definitely numero uno), he gets taken in and cared for by a friend (Nick) who redirects him to a Master of the arts (Ty and BHBH) to teach him how to kick ass. Hero makes his triumphant return (KC) soundly trashing all the fodder and now gets ready to challenge the biggest members of the cabal (via the lawsuits)

(See Funimation, Toei and Hollywood? It's not that hard to fucking write a good shonen story :story:)


Great observation Lupin. How much pussy did Monica and Dominique give you ? Was it 0? I'll bet it was zero.

If anyone watches Nick's stream and super chats, top 4 super chats get a free #fearthebeard patch. send proof to the @dd214isagender account on twitter
Short Round out

Short Round, why don't you promote the Gofundme instead? No offense, but Nick is doing fine with his superchats without your promotion. The gofundme has been sitting at like 128k for weeks now.

so she was seemingly planning to go to areas where only guest passes can go and thats why she got one because she ALSO had a day pass

So looks like she was going to sneak backstage and claim Vic invited her or some shit. No witnesses, No proof, but another story to share. This time her own story, so she, Monica and Jaime can be Molesisters.

Speaking about Jaime. Yikes, it's been hella quiet from her in a while ever since she got exposed hoping for a child to get molested so that they actually have proof. Think she got a restraining order or something?

ONE LITIGANT RECEIVED 400 PAPERS HOLY SHIT

I :) wonder :) who :) that :) is


Im pretty sure ron still thinks Vic has to prove hes inocent lmfao, i really wanna know who is feeding him legal info...

This doesn't add up. If those letters were mailed yesterday, I think it'd be at least Monday before they'd be received.

Most likely Ron just consulted with a lawyer, and the lawyer very probably said: you should probably private your Twitter and stop sperging out, and yeah, come back if and when you actually get sued.

Ron's an idiot, so the "private your Twitter and keep your stupid mouth shut" thing lasted all of, oh, a couple of days?

Jeez guys, I hadn't even seen the photos yet, nor can I make out the name in the photos but it's so fucking obvious that's Soye. Geez 400 pages :story: Hope you had practice reading HP Novels before Ron. Cheers :drink:

Also I echo @Kosher Salt's sentiments. He probably sought out counsel and didn't actually hire the guy. Are we not able to call and confirm with said lawyer?

Emoshi appears to still have not posted his footage. However he did post an image of the thot with the guest pass in clear view. Was this already posted?

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Is the Launch One Midna Ash ? (Ironically another CosThot that's a Nurse in real life)

Alright I also promised you guys grabs but that's going to make this long autistic post even longer. I'll post them in a follow up post in a moment. (Moral of the story, Never Sleep on the Thread or you might wake up to find 40 pages of shane or a costhot getting kicked out for trying some really gay gay ops)
 
Whew finally caught up



I really don't think Dominique should be sued. It's far more embarrassing to have her publically state the truth of why she was there, issue a public apology and hand her a restraining order the prevents her from talking about the whole Vic situation. These THOTS feed on attention, cut off her ability to comment on this situation and she quickly goes back to the depths of obscurity and irrelevance.



Won't and Didn't stop her.



I really doubt it, because no one who knew she was there or going to be there was against her or have reason to be there. Her appearance was completely out of the blue Looks more like a testament to just how eagle eyed and quick to respond the KC security and staff were



Is he mocking her by doing that with his teeth ? :story::story::story:



Guess that's something both her shoes and Husband have in common :story: Guess that's also why he's probably a cuck



:story::story::story: It's the day that just keeps on giving !!!

Also judging from the screen names and the way they seem to be absolutely obsessed with Monica and Dominique, I have a feeling this guy and Lupinfan83 are run by the same guy



That reminds me, need to see what those exceptional individuals are up to now that Dominique was tossed out





From what i've seen/heard, he's still waiting on the footage. It wouldn't surprise me if we don't get the footage cos of some reasons KC staff have.



The rule is simple. YOU MALE YOU LOSE ??



Is this Monica or Dominique? :story: You know, Japan censors that sort of shit

Also, I'm not doubting Monica swallows cum, i just really doubt it would be Soy cum. If ya catch ma drift ?



I love their hypocrisy



Sarah probably had to drop because she's dealing with all of that Jazz with her brother. Appearing at Monica's completely obscure con wouldn't have helped her wrt that. Luckily god is great, Gave her some insta Karma with her brother and since she effectively defamed the only con where she might've actually gotten a decent homeward haul, she had to stay home and cry about it. If not, the 4 of them likely stayed home for their daily orgy.

As for the others, I can't say, they probably have more brains than Monica to know that if you're going to make claims that she made, you'd rather stay home to make your statement rather than go host your own signing a small drive away for what is quite obviously a cash grab and blows your argument of security tight out the water.



Well, this is all sort of like an anime/movie/tv series in the first place, that's literally all we need.

The hero (Vic) get's beaten to a pulp by a bunch of (evil) people who dont like him (KickVic, you can decide on the big bads in the Cabal, but Sabat is definitely numero uno), he gets taken in and cared for by a friend (Nick) who redirects him to a Master of the arts (Ty and BHBH) to teach him how to kick ass. Hero makes his triumphant return (KC) soundly trashing all the fodder and now gets ready to challenge the biggest members of the cabal (via the lawsuits)

(See Funimation, Toei and Hollywood? It's not that hard to fucking write a good shonen story :story:)



Great observation Lupin. How much pussy did Monica and Dominique give you ? Was it 0? I'll bet it was zero.



Short Round, why don't you promote the Gofundme instead? No offense, but Nick is doing fine with his superchats without your promotion. The gofundme has been sitting at like 128k for weeks now.



So looks like she was going to sneak backstage and claim Vic invited her or some shit. No witnesses, No proof, but another story to share. This time her own story, so she, Monica and Jaime can be Molesisters.

Speaking about Jaime. Yikes, it's been hella quiet from her in a while ever since she got exposed hoping for a child to get molested so that they actually have proof. Think she got a restraining order or something?











Jeez guys, I hadn't even seen the photos yet, nor can I make out the name in the photos but it's so fucking obvious that's Soye. Geez 400 pages :story: Hope you had practice reading HP Novels before Ron. Cheers :drink:

Also I echo @Kosher Salt's sentiments. He probably sought out counsel and didn't actually hire the guy. Are we not able to call and confirm with said lawyer?



Is the Launch One Midna Ash ? (Ironically another CosThot that's a Nurse in real life)

Alright I also promised you guys grabs but that's going to make this long autistic post even longer. I'll post them in a follow up post in a moment. (Moral of the story, Never Sleep on the Thread or you might wake up to find 40 pages of shane or a costhot getting kicked out for trying some really gay gay ops)

And they say my messages are long.

Most likely Monica and the one or two other VAs with her were the only ones with enough pull to get them to accept her breach + signing. The other guy wasn't a guest so wasn't technically breaking contract, just throwing his money away.

All fearthebeard patches make a donation to the GFM. I assume the other patches do too, unannounced.

If we could see Dominique's failed video we could probably ascertain her plan that way, but it's obvious the root of it was that no one made any comments or videos about how uncomfortable they were with Vic the first day, so she wanted to fix that the next day. Which is part of why I expect them to try again in KC tomorrow, and if they have a chance maybe AM. It's so high profile and it's the one that he got back into it'd be embarrassing if he got through and no incidents happened. It'd damage their claim that he physically can't control himself and congoers + staff are terrified.
 
I think a better worded, or follow up question might be "how long did you know your wife's father before you started screwing her?" Who says he waited until the wedding?
Follow-up, for sure, because the answers are probably different, and the former question is more liberal/defensible (ie he's more willing/able to answer honestly.)

But, if I haven't missed my mark, the important part of that line of questioning is: "How old was she when you met?" Because if she was 14 or something, that paints a picture of grooming someone for future marriage. And f she was already 20 or something when they met, it paints a picture of a damaged-goods pity-marriage.

Either of which would explain the alleged enthusiastic blowjobs. Though not as well as "triggering the libs" or "just locker-room talk." MundaneShane or Shane Trumpburg are still the default/occams-razor explanations, in my mind.
 
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Most likely Monica and the one or two other VAs with her were the only ones with enough pull to get them to accept her breach + signing. The other guy wasn't a guest so wasn't technically breaking contract, just throwing his money away.

All fearthebeard patches make a donation to the GFM. I assume the other patches do too, unannounced.

If we could see Dominique's failed video we could probably ascertain her plan that way, but it's obvious the root of it was that no one made any comments or videos about how uncomfortable they were with Vic the first day, so she wanted to fix that the next day. Which is part of why I expect them to try again in KC tomorrow, and if they have a chance maybe AM. It's so high profile and it's the one that he got back into it'd be embarrassing if he got through and no incidents happened. It'd damage their claim that he physically can't control himself and congoers + staff are terrified.

Do the patches all donate to separate causes? Like the Bulma donates to Rial's charity, the Beard to Vic's one, and so on? If so, I can not help but think it was a good plan by a shekelmaster.
 
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From what i've seen/heard, he's still waiting on the footage. It wouldn't surprise me if we don't get the footage cos of some reasons KC staff have.
He may also wait until the con is officially over to not draw more negative attention and drama.


In addition to all the other wholesome stuff coming out of Kamehacon, here's a stupidly cute video from yesterday of Vic meeting a toddler named Broly. Starts at 0:50.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-m2P1x9GEI
 
The Promised day is tomorrow....

The Beard cometh....

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Alright guys, so first up, let's address the cow in the room that got thrown out on her ass. Nothing exactly new, just some nice hypocrisy/irony from her twitter.

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This aged well :story: Remind us again how you were just minding your own business when the big bad con owner and their security harassed you and threw your thot ass out :story:

Horrifying thought, but do you think she's pulled this kind of stunt before?

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Terez and Dominique on an age thread. Lupinfan appears because he's still thirsting for some pussy.

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So Terez was Ubering people to Monica's Con. Another signing tomorrow for Monica? Any confirmation on that? Also, incoming, Terez lying.

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So many angles here. Either she's lying to the r/dbz subreddit here that she's at KC (in which case why would you do that?) or she actually is at KC (in which case, I thought you were afraid of being harassed or raped by Vic and his fans) or She went to KC to Uber people to and from Monica's Signing (which is just sad if she did).

Also, not sure if it's been posted on the thread but the pics on this guy's post confirms there were like maybe only 100-200 people in the store the whole day (if you extrapolate from these numbers).


Store isn't that big as well (check inside images on google maps of the place), so anyone who claims the line went out the door might be correct, but it's not really that big an achievement if you think about it (also take into consideration that making a line covers less surface area but more length).

Before I move on I wanted to address 3 things:

Dominique's Guest Pass.

I really doubt it's from Sabat as he did the right thing and has been pulling the good boy act this whole weekend. I doubt he'd throw it down the shitter for this CosThot when he can get anyone else with his Wealth and Status. As much as you might hate him for all of this, the guy is probably the most famous and loved VA from all of the Anime VAs, there's No doubting that and probably one of the only VAs who actually stayed on since the original dub of dragon ball. The guy's character is loved by thousands if not millions of Weebs and so is he as a person as he is the foil to Schemmel's personality. Everything he has done in this whole debacle remains behind the scenes (except for the whole tour thing but he's sort've adequately covered his ass for that too) so he hasn't lost that much of fan support and with the court case coming up, my guess is that he would rather have that than whatever he may get from Dominique.

My guess is that Dominique got her guest pass from one of the people at Monica's Signing. Either Monica herself, Terez or Trailer Drake. All are viable options, since she claimed the guest pass "came from a friend". Since KC collabed with Monica on her alt. Signing it's possible they let her and the other's that were at her signing keep their guest passes.

If anyone who was at KC or part of the staff can verify this and if Monica's pass was picked up, then we have her.

Alternatively, Terez (if she was telling the truth) was at KC as well, but why? If she was only there to uber people, then she's out but if she was at KC on Friday, convinced staff that she was still a panelist, she could've gotten her pass and passed it on to Dominique (or again, if KC let the people at the alt signing keep their passes).

Lastly, Maybe the passes can be traced back to the person who owns the pass. So to prevent her friends Monica and Terez from getting into trouble for giving her their pass, she got a patsy "male feminist" present there to give her their pass (again, only if KC allowed them to keep their passes or didn't void the cancellations on their badge system).

I highly doubt that she seduced a guard to get a pass, as she would've just sold the guard out in the first place instead of protecting them when she got caught.

On Iago and Igor not getting hit in the first round

Gotta say, a bit disappointed (hopefully the war chest is big enough to get them for the whole case against them) but this does make our investigative work a bit easier depending on who gets hit. We know the key players and who's involved already. Whoever gets hit, get's crossed off the already small lists we have for both.

Vic and his Con earnings

It's really great to see the guy back on his feet and making a killing, and all that $ Rightfully belongs to him and I know he needs it because times are tough, but can you imagine what a slap in the face it would be to all of KickVic and those VAs and panelists trying to take sneaky cheap shots at Vic through donating a portion of their funds to a cause if Vic did the same? I mean let's face it, you know KickVic is going to bring that fact up if Vic doesn't (and also a big collective Fuck You to KickVic if they do bring that up).

Now on to the last bit and something that might be interesting to all of you. The supposed scheduled recording session that cancelled Sabat's Tour. I ran a small sad Gay Op into it.

So, by now i'm sure everyone suspects Toei had some sort of influence on the rebranding & cancellation of the tour as well as Horikawa's cancellation (if it was a VISA issue like another Vegeta account on Twitter claimed or any other issue for that matter, we would've heard about it by now as the reason for his cancellation). So obviously, Sabat also can't just cancel out of the blue, he needs an excuse. So he makes one up, "Schemmel needs to re-record some lines book him again". Now, Idk where Schemmel lives (i've forgotten the address from emspex's doxx of him) but I found this on his Twitter:

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Did a bit of research into that store and turns out, it's right in the area of everything of interest

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So my guess is the following went down for this weekend:
  • Toei exerts influence to get Sabat to cancel tour
  • Sabat panics as with all the shit that's been happening the past few weeks, this was all he needed
  • In the panic, he needs a cover so makes up shit or asks Sean to do him a favor to record his lines for one of the most important episodes in the series, 110.
    • What causes me to think this wasn't the original reason he cancelled the tour is because episode 106 of Super airs this week and (I can't remember if this was the same last year) they possibly take a break on Easter week (next week). So that means that they have atleast 2 weeks (~10-12 working days) extra to push out some screams and about two lines of actual dialogue for Goku on episode 110
  • Monica hears his and decides to try and get Sean to appear at the con to boost her crowd
  • Sean declines to appear (like the real asshole he is :story: ) as he believes the crowd would be too small for him (and is still salty for not getting an invite to KC this year after his antics last year)
    • Sean later goes to a horn store to get his daily fix and bounces home
  • Monica is left high and dry with her only guest appearances being Trailer Drake, Terez and Dominique
  • They started internally screeching when they see their turnout vs Vic's, so they hatch a plan to make a snuff vid where they claim Vic harassed them (or some other similar shit) as revenge
  • Dominique uses one of their passes and Terez Uber's the Thot to KC
  • And the rest, as they say, is history :story:
 
One thing I've noticed with Kick Vic is that taking action and not giving in to them will always prove them wrong, look at how many of them are saying that there is no legal case or Vic isn't a big draw, yet he's the very rock star personality that those losers failed to achieve, ironically, they would have been near his level after DBS: Broly but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, they had to ruin it for everyone because they were jealous cunts. The moment people act and they react with violence or harassment is when their lose is confirmed.

Look at Duminique, look at Shane, La choy and other soyboys and THOTs statements, It's clear that when people are willing to get shit done and have a high level of competence and common sense that those NPC's don't have a leg to stand on and they hide on twitter because it's clear that the real world would eat them up for the spineless cowards they are.
 
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