Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

And they say my messages are long.

I've gotten Autism reacts and replies before too cos of my long posts. Missing out on 40+ pages ain't a joke as i've said before.

Most likely Monica and the one or two other VAs with her were the only ones with enough pull to get them to accept her breach + signing. The other guy wasn't a guest so wasn't technically breaking contract, just throwing his money away.

Do you mean Trailer Drake? Technically he was a con panelist (I think). We don't know whether those panelists had a verbal, written or any contract at all. All we know is that they were confirmed to appear before they cancelled and they're not actually worth suing for not appearing as they weren't going to bring in that significant of a crowd anyway.

All fearthebeard patches make a donation to the GFM. I assume the other patches do too, unannounced.

I wasn't aware of that, but i wasn't asking him to donate to the GFM. I asked him to promote the GFM instead of Nick's Superchats. Nick does fine on superchats without ShortRound's Promotion, not to say it's not nice of him to do so.
 
Alright guys, so first up, let's address the cow in the room that got thrown out on her ass. Nothing exactly new, just some nice hypocrisy/irony from her twitter.

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This aged well :story: Remind us again how you were just minding your own business when the big bad con owner and their security harassed you and threw your thot ass out :story:

Horrifying thought, but do you think she's pulled this kind of stunt before?

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Terez and Dominique on an age thread. Lupinfan appears because he's still thirsting for some pussy.

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So Terez was Ubering people to Monica's Con. Another signing tomorrow for Monica? Any confirmation on that? Also, incoming, Terez lying.

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So many angles here. Either she's lying to the r/dbz subreddit here that she's at KC (in which case why would you do that?) or she actually is at KC (in which case, I thought you were afraid of being harassed or raped by Vic and his fans) or She went to KC to Uber people to and from Monica's Signing (which is just sad if she did).

Also, not sure if it's been posted on the thread but the pics on this guy's post confirms there were like maybe only 100-200 people in the store the whole day (if you extrapolate from these numbers).


Store isn't that big as well (check inside images on google maps of the place), so anyone who claims the line went out the door might be correct, but it's not really that big an achievement if you think about it (also take into consideration that making a line covers less surface area but more length).

Before I move on I wanted to address 3 things:



I really doubt it's from Sabat as he did the right thing and has been pulling the good boy act this whole weekend. I doubt he'd throw it down the shitter for this CosThot when he can get anyone else with his Wealth and Status. As much as you might hate him for all of this, the guy is probably the most famous and loved VA from all of the Anime VAs, there's No doubting that and probably one of the only VAs who actually stayed on since the original dub of dragon ball. The guy's character is loved by thousands if not millions of Weebs and so is he as a person as he is the foil to Schemmel's personality. Everything he has done in this whole debacle remains behind the scenes (except for the whole tour thing but he's sort've adequately covered his ass for that too) so he hasn't lost that much of fan support and with the court case coming up, my guess is that he would rather have that than whatever he may get from Dominique.

My guess is that Dominique got her guest pass from one of the people at Monica's Signing. Either Monica herself, Terez or Trailer Drake. All are viable options, since she claimed the guest pass "came from a friend". Since KC collabed with Monica on her alt. Signing it's possible they let her and the other's that were at her signing keep their guest passes.

If anyone who was at KC or part of the staff can verify this and if Monica's pass was picked up, then we have her.

Alternatively, Terez (if she was telling the truth) was at KC as well, but why? If she was only there to uber people, then she's out but if she was at KC on Friday, convinced staff that she was still a panelist, she could've gotten her pass and passed it on to Dominique (or again, if KC let the people at the alt signing keep their passes).

Lastly, Maybe the passes can be traced back to the person who owns the pass. So to prevent her friends Monica and Terez from getting into trouble for giving her their pass, she got a patsy "male feminist" present there to give her their pass (again, only if KC allowed them to keep their passes or didn't void the cancellations on their badge system).

I highly doubt that she seduced a guard to get a pass, as she would've just sold the guard out in the first place instead of protecting them when she got caught.



Gotta say, a bit disappointed (hopefully the war chest is big enough to get them for the whole case against them) but this does make our investigative work a bit easier depending on who gets hit. We know the key players and who's involved already. Whoever gets hit, get's crossed off the already small lists we have for both.



It's really great to see the guy back on his feet and making a killing, and all that $ Rightfully belongs to him and I know he needs it because times are tough, but can you imagine what a slap in the face it would be to all of KickVic and those VAs and panelists trying to take sneaky cheap shots at Vic through donating a portion of their funds to a cause if Vic did the same? I mean let's face it, you know KickVic is going to bring that fact up if Vic doesn't (and also a big collective Fuck You to KickVic if they do bring that up).

Now on to the last bit and something that might be interesting to all of you. The supposed scheduled recording session that cancelled Sabat's Tour. I ran a small sad Gay Op into it.

So, by now i'm sure everyone suspects Toei had some sort of influence on the rebranding & cancellation of the tour as well as Horikawa's cancellation (if it was a VISA issue like another Vegeta account on Twitter claimed or any other issue for that matter, we would've heard about it by now as the reason for his cancellation). So obviously, Sabat also can't just cancel out of the blue, he needs an excuse. So he makes one up, "Schemmel needs to re-record some lines book him again". Now, Idk where Schemmel lives (i've forgotten the address from emspex's doxx of him) but I found this on his Twitter:

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Did a bit of research into that store and turns out, it's right in the area of everything of interest

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So my guess is the following went down for this weekend:
  • Toei exerts influence to get Sabat to cancel tour
  • Sabat panics as with all the shit that's been happening the past few weeks, this was all he needed
  • In the panic, he needs a cover so makes up shit or asks Sean to do him a favor to record his lines for one of the most important episodes in the series, 110.
    • What causes me to think this wasn't the original reason he cancelled the tour is because episode 106 of Super airs this week and (I can't remember if this was the same last year) they possibly take a break on Easter week (next week). So that means that they have atleast 2 weeks (~10-12 working days) extra to push out some screams and about two lines of actual dialogue for Goku on episode 110
  • Monica hears his and decides to try and get Sean to appear at the con to boost her crowd
  • Sean declines to appear (like the real asshole he is :story: ) as he believes the crowd would be too small for him (and is still salty for not getting an invite to KC this year after his antics last year)
    • Sean later goes to a horn store to get his daily fix and bounces home
  • Monica is left high and dry with her only guest appearances being Trailer Drake, Terez and Dominique
  • They started internally screeching when they see their turnout vs Vic's, so they hatch a plan to make a snuff vid where they claim Vic harassed them (or some other similar shit) as revenge
  • Dominique uses one of their passes and Terez Uber's the Thot to KC
  • And the rest, as they say, is history :story:

I'm a Sabat fan myself, or was before all this mess, but let's not kid. Liam O'Brien, Troy Baker, and Crispin Freeman all leave Sabat in the dust as far as wide appeal to fans goes. He is very popular and well known for being approachable, but he's not #1 anywhere but in his own mind.

I've gotten Autism reacts and replies before too cos of my long posts. Missing out on 40+ pages ain't a joke as i've said before.



Do you mean Trailer Drake? Technically he was a con panelist (I think). We don't know whether those panelists had a verbal, written or any contract at all. All we know is that they were confirmed to appear before they cancelled and they're not actually worth suing for not appearing as they weren't going to bring in that significant of a crowd anyway.



I wasn't aware of that, but i wasn't asking him to donate to the GFM. I asked him to promote the GFM instead of Nick's Superchats. Nick does fine on superchats without ShortRound's Promotion, not to say it's not nice of him to do so.

I thought I saw Drake complaining about how he couldn't get refunded for his table, which implied he was one of the people who paid to get a table, rather than was paid to show up. Who knows though, I wasn't paying much attention to any of those unimportant nobodies beyond noting that they made the foolish choice of throwing away money just to strengthen Vic's case.

It's a shame that the four lawsuits going out are so predictable, since that paired with 'none of them are Iago or Igor' leaves us at roughly the same place for which the two are. It is interesting though, I suppose, that even Igor has more shielding against a lawsuit than these four dummies (whoever the two are that aren't Monica and Ms. Toye)

--Actually on reflection, maybe it is a tiny hint. If we run with the hint someone picked up that both I's are VAs, that would have pointed to Monica as a potential Igor. If she's being sued here, that rules her out. Shane isn't a VA, meaning he can't be Igor. Could my theory that Sabat is Igor actually still hold water now? Hmm.
 
He may also wait until the con is officially over to not draw more negative attention and drama.


In addition to all the other wholesome stuff coming out of Kamehacon, here's a stupidly cute video from yesterday of Vic meeting a toddler named Broly. Starts at 0:50.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-m2P1x9GEI
Great now how long before they try and get him for CP..../sneed
 
Emoshi appears to still have not posted his footage. However he did post an image of the thot with the guest pass in clear view. Was this already posted?

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So she stopped to take more than one picture during her gay op attempt? some people are just convinced their ass gives them total inmunity I guess.

Decided to check on PULL to see how they were coping and they were surprisingly optimistic:
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They may have taken Toye's legal advice to heart too much.

Also a funny extra of an attempt to virtue signal getting one upped:
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You won't watch it now? well, I was never going to watch it!
 
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I expect they'll all pull a JK Rowling when the lawsuits finally drop.

"I never said there would be no lawsuit, just that there wasn't any lawsuit at the time".

"I never said consensual hugging was sexual assault, specifically."

"Shane was gay all along."
 
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He says vic is not innocent, as he has not been found guilty of any crime he is innocent by default so what Ron said is patently false.

Ah, true, but I meant that Picard one in particular only suggested 'but what if he isn't innocent', it didn't outright state he wasn't, so I found it interesting they included it as a count of defamation. Someone else suggested that not all of these were direct defamation, but I believe Ty mentioned those letters/papers were specifically dealing with Texas defamation law, so they'd only be the ones they're using for defamation purposes. Tweets (and other things) used for TI and conspiracy would be other ones, though I imagine at least some overlap.

So she stopped to take more than one picture during her gay op attempt? some people are just convinced their ass gives them total inmunity I guess.

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They may have taken Toye's legal advice to heart too much.

Also a funny extra of an attempt to virtue signal getting one upped:
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You won't watch it now? well, I was never going to watch it!

"Boo-hoo, I won't watch an actually great anime with extremely strong women characters in it because some people believe that not every rape accusation is true!"

okay. you're just making yourself suffer, though.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me such a stupid line of reasoning would be paired with people who misunderstand something so basic about US law so completely, even after it's been explained to them ad nauseum.
 
It's more of a question of what have they said since this started that didn't nuke their credibility? At least Marchi had the sense to STFU eventually.

Ron Soye has probably done more damage to Monica than Monica has done to herself and it will be hard for her to extricate herself from anything he said just being considered him acting as a mouthpiece.
Never let a cuck do a feminazi's work.
Renfamous: Suspended until she deletes some tweets that she stubbornly refuses to delete because "Twitter is going to review it and see that the tweets were falsely flagged and I did nothing wrong"... for 5+ days and counting, I think?

RenfamousX: Still active and tweeting. Apparently she's had to do a couple of CAPTCHAs to prove that she's not a spam bot. Reporting the profile for spam is evidently not very effective.

RaisedByWolves: Got scared and deleted their account.

She's scared, she was talking all that good shit but she got the banhammer she ran like the loser she is. Bye bitch.
 
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So when is there a court date? Has it been set in stone?
Only filing for lawsuits. which is estimated to land on the defendants on monday.
Take note: this lawsuit, even if you feel it is dragging to long, is actually lightning fast compared to other lawsuits. I mean, it is just 2 months from the time vic was kicked. That also shows how fucked the kickvic's side is when the lawsuit is very quickly prepared. not even Meyer v Waid was this fast. the kickvic side really made the case too easy for Beard
 
Back to Vic.

He filled an entire floor of the convention center.

He had lines literally throughout that entire floor and out the door 3 stories down.

These lines didn't disperse, at all, for 10 fucking hours straight.

I had no idea he was THAT popular. No wonder his coworkers are jealous.
 
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I expect they'll all pull a JK Rowling when the lawsuits finally drop.

"I never said there would be no lawsuit, just that there weren't any lawsuit at the time".

"I never said that consensual hugging was sexual assault, specifically."

"Shane was gay all along."

Imagine if we get a reveal like The Usual Suspects instead:

Lawsuits are given to everyone except one person.

Nick comes on stream one night before the Court case:

"Guy's I have a confession to make on my source(s), I threw you all in for a loop and have been running a gay op all this time. I guess...It's time to reveal my source"

Screenshare turns on

It's Shane, and he's in a decent apartment.

Shane: "Hi guys, it's me. Gotcha" :story:

Nick: "Yeah Guy's, Shane's been my source since day one, He's not as incompetent as he seems, it was all a ruse so that while I was investigating these cons I had an inside man they never would've suspected. someone who acted like a complete imebecile. I got one of my old law school friend's who minored in drama to help me out and play the part whilst he gathered intel for me from the inside"

Montage shows everything Shane said during Nick's stream was improvised from things in his apartment

Remember the shoe on the cutting board? Yeah that had a note on the other side detailing the points he needed to bring up in stream

Remember when he went to the fridge? It actually had a script detailing what tortious interference was NOT so he didn't accidentally reveal he was actually competent in law

The biggest hint?

Holmberg isn't even his last name.

Don't believe me? Here take a look:

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Back to Vic.

He filled an entire floor of the convention center.

He had lines literally throughout that entire floor and out the door 3 stories down.

These lines didn't disperse, at all, for 10 fucking hours straight.

I had no idea he was THAT popular. No wonder his coworkers are jealous.
One might even say he's "legendary".....
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Also I echo @Kosher Salt's sentiments. He probably sought out counsel and didn't actually hire the guy. Are we not able to call and confirm with said lawyer?
Ty Beard called and confirmed that the lawyer had interacted with Ron, and the lawyer seemed to give Ty the impression that he'd be handling Ron's case, when such a case is actually filed.

As for contacting the guy, DO NOT CONTACT HIM. He has better things to do than be grilled by Kiwis, and it's against site rules anyway. Let Ty Beard handle the opposing counsel; that's literally his job.
 
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So she stopped to take more than one picture during her gay op attempt? some people are just convinced their ass gives them total inmunity I guess.

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They may have taken Toye's legal advice to heart too much.

Also a funny extra of an attempt to virtue signal getting one upped:
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You won't watch it now? well, I was never going to watch it!

Lol they wont watch shield hero because the first episode is literally this case, i advise everyone should watch at least the first episode to see why this bith has her own sub reddit.
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Man i feel so good thinking that all the dumb va's like Daman Mills, Sarah etc who dropped off kamehacon, they all got assfucked so hard not just by Vic coming back and saying a giant FUCK YOU to all of these assholes but even better sweet justice was the part where before kamehacon happened they were trying to set up a different hangout with Monica and her party.

Monica being a bitch backstabbed them the same way she did to Vic. She herself got to host whatever shitty blowjob booth she could set up with her ugly face but all of these other assholes living in a dorm with other va's, ALL OF THEM lost money and didn't even earn any worthwhile clout. :story:

And you gotta remember these va's that dropped aren't really in a good place financially. So i am telling you they must be hella pissed at monica behind her back HAHA.
#GetWokeGoBroke

Meanwhile chad vic is sitting there at his panel like Tuxedo Pooh.
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Lol they wont watch shield hero because the first episode is literally this case, i advise everyone should watch at least the first episode to see why this bith has her own sub reddit.
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She just needs green contacts and she'll have her new gig set up.

I wonder if she got loli hitler because she is a crazy psycho herself. The only difference is she is not smart nor brave, but well that is acting for you!
 
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