Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Captain Manning]

I'd actually have a tiny amount of respect for her if she said that the Jellybean story wasn't why he got fired AND it was a complete non-issue. However, she had to go on and say that it's "another example" of him being inappropriate.

These people are broken.

 

[Questioning_Huggers]

Uh oh, looks like Rial is setting up a contingency in case she "doesn't feel safe" at conventions in the future

https://mobile.twitter.com/Rialisms/status/1118213070365581314

Twitter

archived 16 Apr 2019 19:00:29 UTC

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Quick question:

Did anyone actually see any fucking security at her signing? Someone? Anyone? Who isn't Mr./Ms., obviously.

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

Let me give you a preview of the narrative.

"Yes that was just one story but you don't SAY things like that to a coworker."

"It was just one out of thousands of constant sexually perverted comments. I felt unsafe."

"It's Male Privilege to think suggesting you would rape a woman via oral sex in front of fans is OK. It is NOT OK!"

If there is a hardcore Weeb here with a lot of time on their hands, it would make for some good evidence for Lord Beard to rifle their anime collection, and clip/catalog all the 'sexual comments' Monica has voiced in her roles. And sexual comments in those roles directed at her.

Kinda hard to get fearful of sexual comments when your very career consists of multitudes of them.

 

[Tard]

I'd actually have a tiny amount of respect for her if she said that the Jellybean story wasn't why he got fired AND it was a complete non-issue. However, she had to go on and say that it's "another example" of him being inappropriate.

These people are broken.

The thing that gets me is that VAs like Micheal Tatum have made MUCH worse and overtly sexual jokes on video towards other VAs. Someone even mentioned he made a "Vic made me wet" joke when Vic accidently spilt water on him.
Yet Monica is trying to REEEEE over a jellybean joke that 99% of people wouldn't even consider sexual in nature and trying to act like it somehow helps justify Vic's firing because of how "innappropriate" it was

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

https://archive.li/1oos7

Chairman of Anime Matsuri congratulating Vic on kamehacon success.

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I'm going to run my theory of what I think happened over KC and the events of the weekend.

So, if they had any sense, KC would've had someone, wearing a KC public atendee badge "drop by" and probably hang out and chat with Rial et al at Doc's Comics and Games and do the rough headcount. We also know Nick has at least one certified KC insider within the con's organisational structure with a direct line.

In comparison, KC could closely monitor and headcount vic's line up on the 4th floor in which he probably got the best gig spot for it.

Monica's event was 75-90 people throughout the day. Or about $4500 before the con takes its cut.

Vic in comparison. Had a line stood at an easy 100 people for a staggering 9hrs 40mins for two days solid.

They had to close this line at least three times a day due to it becoming a fire hazard for the convention centre.

Rough Kiwi Estimates put the earnings at a staggering $45-50,000 before the con takes its cut.

Now, given a rough cut, Vic probably took home somewhere between $30-40,0000 and earned the con an additional $15k+ by his sheer presence.

I dunno about you, but either the con owner themselves, or the treasurer looked at the con owner and told them to hurl Rial and her boo hoo crew as hard under the bus as humanly possible, and released the three hours of text messages of them harassing, and otherwise bullying them into trying to get vic kicked from the con itself to BHBH.

In fact, after the stress and misery they were put through I think they'd be furious that Rial and her little boo hoo crew had tried to cost their bottom line anywhere between $15-20k in extra profit for the con.

That even easier slam dunk would be a very very good reason to delay filing for a couple of days at least.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

If there is a hardcore Weeb here with a lot of time on their hands, it would make for some good evidence for Lord Beard to rifle their anime collection, and clip/catalog all the 'sexual comments' Monica has voiced in her roles. And sexual comments in those roles directed at her.

Kinda hard to get fearful of sexual comments when your very career consists of multitudes of them.

tsuyu asui, the episode following the escape from the boat.
the sub was out for the longest time and I doubt the sound director didn't let her see footage beforehand so she could prep.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

We are at the point where anyone is a target for anything they say or do and the only 'trigger' that will set the mob off is the random feelings of one mentally unstable SJW. Society cannot function like that.

The light at the end of the tunnel is that eventually reality will reassert itself and these animals will be remembered by history much like their witch hunting brethren.

I really...really don't like having my trauma weaponized to attack innocent people with.

 

[Solo Wing Pixy]

That's the kind of people that sjws and special snowflakes hurt the most honestly: those who actually have those issues. Think about how many people may just avoid a trans person because they have met crazy trannys and it's just not worth the risk to deal with this one.

Not going to lie... just hearing all these stories about crazy trannys has made me wary of ever running into one.

Hell... the way these "victims" act makes me wary of women and even trying to date.

 

[Love Soze]

Guess this means he doesn't think docs will drop today.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

Not going to lie... just hearing all these stories about crazy trannys has made me wary of ever running into one.

Hell... the way these "victims" act makes me wary of women and even trying to date.

I wouldn't say I'm an incel, I think I could find a girl to date if I wanted
fact is, I don't. too much of a headache and hassel. far, far more efficient to just sit at home and play vidya and stick to my job and keep my head down. nice, peaceful, and i'm content.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I'd actually have a tiny amount of respect for her if she said that the Jellybean story wasn't why he got fired AND it was a complete non-issue. However, she had to go on and say that it's "another example" of him being inappropriate.

These people are broken.

It’s “another example of him being inappropriate”. So once againMonica, why did you write your name on the Jellybean? What was the game being played there? How appropriate was doing so? See what happens when we apply the same standards to all?

 

[Bullshit Fucked]

Vic didn’t voice Burter on the first pass of Z. It was a guy named Mark Britten. According to the wikis, he also voiced ten other characters. He was replaced by several VA’s in the remastered version. Vic got the role of Burter in Kai and three of the games.

I don’t know why this actor was replaced, but I suspect it was due to scheduling conflicts, as Britten is also a comedian.

Re-read what I said. I was talking about when they were going back and redubbing all that they had done with the Ocean cast, just now with the In-House group which would also be the first time the episode would be dubbed uncut.

 

[Urbanmech]

I'm going to run my theory of what I think happened over KC and the events of the weekend.

So, if they had any sense, KC would've had someone, wearing a KC public atendee badge "drop by" and probably hang out and chat with Rial et al at Doc's Comics and Games and do the rough headcount. We also know Nick has at least one certified KC insider within the con's organisational structure with a direct line.

In comparison, KC could closely monitor and headcount vic's line up on the 4th floor in which he probably got the best gig spot for it.

Monica's event was 75-90 people throughout the day. Or about $4500 before the con takes its cut.

Vic in comparison. Had a line stood at an easy 100 people for a staggering 9hrs 40mins for two days solid.

They had to close this line at least three times a day due to it becoming a fire hazard for the convention centre.

Rough Kiwi Estimates put the earnings at a staggering $45-50,000 before the con takes its cut.

Now, given a rough cut, Vic probably took home somewhere between $30-40,0000 and earned the con an additional $15k+ by his sheer presence.

I dunno about you, but either the con owner themselves, or the treasurer looked at the con owner and told them to hurl Rial and her boo hoo crew as hard under the bus as humanly possible, and released the three hours of text messages of them harassing, and otherwise bullying them into trying to get vic kicked from the con itself to BHBH.

In fact, after the stress and misery they were put through I think they'd be furious that Rial and her little boo hoo crew had tried to cost their bottom line anywhere between $15-20k in extra profit for the con.

That even easier slam dunk would be a very very good reason to delay filing for a couple of days at least.

I think the Skye stunt also added to the owner handing over his side of the evidence, if he's doing that

 

[TheClappening]

before the con takes its cut.

From what I remember of Nick's reading of A-Totally-Not-Kamehacon-Contract, the con doesn't take anything from Vic, In fact, if a guest makes less than their agreed upon amount, the con pays them.

I do remember the photographer gets a cut of all photographs that get taken, but otherwise all money is Vic's.

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

tsuyu asui, the episode following the escape from the boat.
the sub was out for the longest time and I doubt the sound director didn't let her see footage beforehand so she could prep.

Full Metal Panic FUMOFU - "Pony Tail". Monica may want to review her back catalog for "appropriate" when it comes to consent/rape/sexual anything.

 

[Least Concern]

Some shower thoughts. (Hey, I work from home. I can shower whenever I damn well please.)

The jellybean incident is the only sexual interaction that we know of between Rial and Vic, right? (And I'd argue that Vic didn't intend for it to be sexual, but since it apparently was turned up by Funi's investigation, I'll accept that Rial took it that way.) Am I forgetting something? Because if true, then that means that Rial was worried about her safety (I don't think she ever clarified if it was regarding Vic or regarding Vic's stans, but let's say Vic for now) to the extent that she and her fellow drop-outs set up that sad-sack signing all the way across town and lost out on possibly dozens of yang because of a stupid confectionary-related dad joke, on top of other allegations which they claim they already knew about and apparently had little problem with before. What's the woke points to USD exchange rate again?

Also, in retrospect, I'm kind of unclear why Toei blocked that Japanese VA from attending KamehaCon. I can understand Toei being mad at Funi, but cutting that VA arguably hurt KC a lot more than Funi, and KC had re-invited Vic and was seemingly toeing the line when it was announced that he wouldn't be coming. Is it just retribution because they were so angry about the misuse of IP with the "Vegeta studio tour" or whatever it was? Still seems like an extreme move, and that Japanese VA probably lost out on some good money too, right?

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

Also, in retrospect, I'm kind of unclear why Toei blocked that Japanese VA from attending KamehaCon.

Because "Face"

Face (sociological concept) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

The jellybean is a lesbian

 

[Fish Repairs]

Now wait a minute, I'm new here but in the fb group screenshot isn't the person suggesting fabricating evidence getting yelled of? how do we avoid the same autistic "knee jerk believing shit" and guilt by association bs these people are guilty of?

 

[Dopey Cunt]

The jellybean is a lesbian

Actually, the real story is that Monika is actually angry at the jellybean because she's jealous that Vic ate jellybean Monika instead of real Monika.

Also, in retrospect, I'm kind of unclear why Toei blocked that Japanese VA from attending KamehaCon. I can understand Toei being mad at Funi, but cutting that VA arguably hurt KC a lot more than Funi, and KC had re-invited Vic and was seemingly toeing the line when it was announced that he wouldn't be coming. Is it just retribution because they were so angry about the misuse of IP with the "Vegeta studio tour" or whatever it was? Still seems like an extreme move, and that Japanese VA probably lost out on some good money too, right?

There's also the possibility that Ryo had a legitimate reason for needing to cancel. Sometimes things do happen as far fetched as they may seem. Or they could have pulled him because they didn't want him involved in all this messy business and for big corporations like Toei, they don't really care if they hurt someone else by pulling a VA. They are thinking like business savy suits and looking out for their own hides.

Also not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but the fact that Skye got a Guest Pass is concerning. That means someone on the inside provided it to her meaning there's a mole in their midst.