Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

[Kalishnakov]

an exceptional individual bouncing a rubber ball against the wall is having fun, too. The rest of the room is aware they're exceptional.

That is making the assumption that everyone thinks the same. They don't. Voters are not all high browed little pinkie pointer tea drinkers either.
Who is Batten appealing to?

Batten's personality doesn't lend itself to taking on the public as well as Carl's. Despite Carl buggering up here and there, he is more in tune with the disgruntled that are keeping their mouths shut.

 

[Unog]

It doesn’t really matter if you apologize ultimately. The media is going to behave the same way when the next thing comes along or they decide to drag up something old.

However, the time you take talking about it is time you could be spending attacking your opponents or talking about policy. I understand the logic behind not wanting to validate them but its not worth dying on this hill either. Hell, he could’ve just decided to say nothing and that would be better than what he did.

That's a pretty retarded take. "They're going to go after you anyway so go ahead and apologize" is capitulation without any reward, and with nothing but a loss as his viewers will only see it as him acting spineless and cucking to the people that they hate. They'd be right for thinking so, too tbh.

As far as "the time you take talking about it" goes, what exactly do you mean? The guy has nothing but time at this point since he has a load of paypigs and no reason at present to worry about getting an actual job, and when it comes to whether or not it's a hill worth dying on you have to remember he's doing this for his paypigs. Of course it's a hill worth dying on if it means he's still getting injections of sweet, sweet NEETbux.

Batten's personality doesn't lend itself to taking on the public as well as Carl's. Despite Carl buggering up here and there, he is more in tune with the disgruntled that are keeping their mouths shut.

Carl's doing this in the dumbest possible way imaginable. It doesn't take much to realize that his countrymen mostly see right past his accent and facade and can tell he's a wannabe-edgelord faggot who couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag much less serve as an official in any level of government. Not to mention that a lot of Brits are the kind of tightwads that wouldn't vote for such a crass individual in the first place, even were they to take him as an original, honest, and motivated human being.

 

[instythot]

That's a pretty exceptional take. "They're going to go after you anyway so go ahead and apologize" is capitulation without any reward, and with nothing but a loss as his viewers will only see it as him acting spineless and cucking to the people that they hate. They'd be right for thinking so, too tbh.

As far as "the time you take talking about it" goes, what exactly do you mean? The guy has nothing but time at this point since he has a load of paypigs and no reason at present to worry about getting an actual job, and when it comes to whether or not it's a hill worth dying on you have to remember he's doing this for his paypigs. Of course it's a hill worth dying on if it means he's still getting injections of sweet, sweet NEETbux.



Carl's doing this in the dumbest possible way imaginable. It doesn't take much to realize that his countrymen mostly see right past his accent and facade and can tell he's a wannabe-edgelord faggot who couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag much less serve as an official in any level of government. Not to mention that a lot of Brits are the kind of tightwads that wouldn't vote for such a crass individual in the first place, even were they to take him as an original, honest, and motivated human being.

Not only that, but he seems to not grasp exactly where he lives or what he's campaigning for.

Comparing himself to Trump isn't going to fly in a country where trump is deeply unpopular. Campaigning on anti political correctness and dirty smear merchants when the issue on the table is brexit is breathtakingly misguided. But he's clearly looking for attention, and it doesn't matter if it's positive. The best thing the yellow press could do to send him in a tizzy would be to mention everyone but him by name in the stories, making a point to lead off with dank and call Carl "some stuffy suit, inexplicably agitated" or similar

 

[Kalishnakov]

Carl's doing this in the dumbest possible way imaginable. It doesn't take much to realize that his countrymen mostly see right past his accent and facade and can tell he's a wannabe-edgelord faggot who couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag much less serve as an official in any level of government. Not to mention that a lot of Brits are the kind of tightwads that wouldn't vote for such a crass individual in the first place, even were they to take him as an original, honest, and motivated human being.

Doesn't matter what he does or says. The Libtards are going to take anything and everything, and if they have nothing, they will create it on the fly and try to pin it on him. The accent? What is the relevance and to whom is it relevant? Crass? Which is worse? Sugar coating the fact that the population is being screwed by the "elites" and handing them the lube because the "elites" are silky with their words?


Your last statement suggests that Brits are not only tightwads, but stupid as well.
( you may well be quite correct about that given the state of the education system at present)

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Doesn't matter what he does or says. The Libtards are going to take anything and everything, and if they have nothing, they will create it on the fly and try to pin it on him. The accent? What is the relevance and to whom is it relevant? Crass? Which is worse? Sugar coating the fact that the population is being screwed by the "elites" and handing them the lube because the "elites" are silky with their words?


Your last statement suggests that Brits are not only tightwads, but stupid as well.
( you may well be quite correct about that given the state of the education system at present)

Nobody's going to claim the Libs won't try to cheap shot Carl, but that doesn't change the fact that he's handling it in the worst possible way. Arguably the biggest part of politics is the ability to handle unexpected attacks as they happen. Sargon is flailing at shit he should have seen coming miles away.

What is most associated with political campaigns? "Spin". He should have "spun" the questions into something that benefitted him, or made the question look petty compared to the issues he and his party seek to address. What he did instead was scream "YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID THE THING YOU'VE ALL ACCUSED ME OF, AND I DID IT BECAUSE FUCK YOU!". That ain't spin. That ain't a play. It's just an outburst.

Whether or not it's fair that that's how politics is, that's... politics. That's something he beamed with total pride about his knowledge on when Jim and Ralph blasted him for it. He was so pleased with himself for his ability to play politics, and he's proceeded to handle himself in the absolute least beneficial or adaptable way possible. The silly fucker himself didn't hesitate to tell everyone who would listen about his brilliant political strategy, and that's the best he could come up with?

 

[Kalishnakov]

Nobody's going to claim the Libs won't try to cheap shot Carl, but that doesn't change the fact that he's handling it in the worst possible way. Arguably the biggest part of politics is the ability to handle unexpected attacks as they happen. Sargon is flailing at shit he should have seen coming miles away.

What is most associated with political campaigns? "Spin". He should have "spun" the questions into something that benefitted him, or made the question look petty compared to the issues he and his party seek to address. What he did instead was scream "YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID THE THING YOU'VE ALL ACCUSED ME OF, AND I DID IT BECAUSE FUCK YOU!". That ain't spin. That ain't a play. It's just an outburst.

Whether or not it's fair that that's how politics is, that's... politics. That's something he beamed with total pride about his knowledge on when Jim and Ralph blasted him for it. He was so pleased with himself for his ability to play politics, and he's proceeded to handle himself in the absolute least beneficial or adaptable way possible. The silly fucker himself didn't hesitate to tell everyone who would listen about his brilliant political strategy, and that's the best he could come up with?

Understand your meaning, however, it is politics that has created the current mess to begin with. From my POV, politics is not much more than ass kissing and public ego stroking. Much mincing about and flouncing to woo voters, but nothing of any real substance changes.

The populace of which the vast majority are not "elites" and whom are the back bone of the country, have been lied to for years. The government is elected to Serve the People. Not the other way around.

""YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID THE THING YOU'VE ALL ACCUSED ME OF, AND I DID IT BECAUSE FUCK YOU!". That ain't spin. That ain't a play. It's just an outburst. "

No. Incorrect context. They tried to back him into a corner with a statement so utterly stupid and out of context, and he stated that with a few cherries on top.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Here's Carl's speech from that UKIP press event, which, for some reason, wasn't reported:

He's grinning happily throughout.

I'm ambivalent here as to whether Carl is being a lolcow or just stirring up shit for the enjoyment of him and his fanbase. He turned up at this place with the single goal of being belligerent and giving the mainstream media a telling off. With these stunts, he might just recruit a load more fans who are pissed off with the mainstream media, precisely because he's refused to comport himself and because the media acted so predictably by going straight for the obvious tiresome takedowns that can fit a newspaper format which relies on clips, soundbites and headlines. Some folk will be wanting to get more context, and some will find themselves becoming new Sargon fans.

Sargon's UKIP career is probably fucked, but based on this performance, I don't think he was remotely serious about it anyway. He's been given some opportunities to shout at mainstream journalists, all to the cheers of his fans, and will probably earn a load more subscribers. His image in political circles will be worth shit, and the average voter will see him as just an aggressive and belligerent wanker, but that's not his audience anyway.

That press conference was pure cringe and he's a lolcow for not seeing it. In fact he's so proud of his performance he clipped it and put it on his channel.

His fan club of course love it - he's got 78K views, 13K upvotes and 82 downvotes, a remarkable 99.4% approval rating

Still in politics it's not about the approval rating for your videos, it's about the approval rating for the party you're supposed to be working for.

Now it's hard to blame Sargon for UKIP's current poll rating - Farage's Brexit party and the controversy of Tommy who is also being smeared ruthlessly by the media would probably mean that UKIP would poll badly.

Still it's not all that helpful to have a load of headlines about 'Rape tweets' by a bunch of dishonest journos keen to push a narrative.

Who could have predicted that? Oh yeah, fucking Sargon could have. The journos are using the exact same smear techniques they used in Gamergate. Which Sargon got his Youtube subscribers covering.

If you ask the average normie about Gamergate they're probably going to say 'it was a bunch of misogynists harassing women, LGBT people and minorities'.

Now Sargon would say 'Well if you watch 18 hours of my videos you'd know that's complete bollocks'.

But outside of his fan club who is going to do that? They'll get the Cliff's Notes version from the media. Just like they will with the Rape Tweet.

Sargon in his David Brent like way still can't accept that he's not seen as an entertainer, serious politician and public intellectual. He's going to be seen as 'the guy that sent the rape tweet 'and 'called people the N word', or at best someone who basically means well but is incompetent at expressing himself.

I suppose the upside is that it probably doesn't matter. The Tories will get shellacked at these elections with a bit of luck and a pro Brexit party will gain seats. It's just that in this case it looks like Farage's pro Brexit party, not UKIP.

 

[Toucan]

Here is Carl with noted white nationalist and secret british loyalist Rowan Croft.

It reminds me of the old Iron Guard saying
If you see the enemy and the traitor approach you and you only have two bullets shoot the traitor twice.

They look like a gay couple that got HIV off each other

 

[Aristophanes]

Here is Carl with noted white nationalist and secret british loyalist Rowan Croft.
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It reminds me of the old Iron Guard saying
If you see the enemy and the traitor approach you and you only have two bullets shoot the traitor twice.

They look like a gay couple that got HIV off each other

And here we have Carl jumping into bed with even more foamers (of the Orange persuasion). Loyalists are absolute cows compared to their Republican counterparts.

 

[Toucan]

And here we have Carl jumping into bed with even more foamers (of the Orange persuasion). Loyalists are absolute cows compared to their Republican counterparts.

Particularly the ones that pretend to be patriots for the republic of ireland but then reveal that they tried to join the british army in the past.

Carls irish fans are very odd people. Computing forever for instance

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm's Ghost]

So Carl is being kind enough to outline his political strategy on the Thinkery, and it's been an interesting watch.

So he's determined to be as much as a pain in the ass of the media as possible, because regardless of getting elected in his own words. "Any press is good press." So he really is trying to get his message out there as much as possible, and seems to think that being set against the prevailing media is a good strategy for doing this.

It's not entirely misguided either, the media has shown time and time again it's bias. And there is a substantial part of the population that aren't voting because there is no representation for them as a party. He will likely be as adversarial as possible any time they keep trying to bring up Jess Philips, and whether they're holding on to White Niggers for a later smear, that will probably come out at some point as well.

I seriously think it's ego driving Carl at this point, not that that wasn't always what was driving him, but realistically he doesn't need any more money or audience than what he already has, and he's admitted that an MEP position is essentially useless in terms of British real politik and the only reason he's interested in going is to smuckle at them.

Whether or not it will actually pan out, I think Carl really is starting to think more like an IRL activist, than an internet one, because the internet slacktivism can only go so far, and rightly or wrongly Carl has a messianic complex.

 

[Unog]

Sargon in his David Brent like way still can't accept that he's not seen as an entertainer, serious politician and public intellectual. He's going to be seen as 'the guy that sent the rape tweet 'and 'called people the N word', or at best someone who basically means well but is incompetent at expressing himself.

This is probably the best way I've seen it put. The guy is almost literally a clown screaming and stamping his feet while shouting "TAKE ME SERIOUSLY, DAMN IT! I'M NOT JOKING!" while everyone laughs at him.

 

[Kalishnakov]

But it makes more sense to the 'enlightened' and woke in British politics to turn a blind eye to teaching that little 8 year old boys can a get period too? Is that 'multiculturalism', 'tolerance' or plain stupidity ? Pandering to which agenda in the name of 'politics.' Where is the gain to the population? Normalizing this idiocy in the education system, when you already have rape gangs running rampant and only Tommy was the one brave enough to makeit public? But, what happnened then? He was shut down with bogus charges.

This is probably the best way I've seen it put. The guy is almost literally a clown screaming and stamping his feet while shouting "TAKE ME SERIOUSLY, DAMN IT! I'M NOT JOKING!" while everyone laughs at him.

Who is 'everyone'? Kiwi farms? The few that are actively trying to run him down for not following their narrative/script ?

 

[Toucan]

So he's determined to be as much as a pain in the ass of the media as possible, because regardless of getting elected in his own words. "Any press is good press." So he really is trying to get his message out there as much as possible, and seems to think that being set against the prevailing media is a good strategy for doing this.

Thats an out. Its setting the groundwork for his eventual defeat and so he can say "it wasnt about winning mate it was about starting a dialogue"

 

[cecograph]

So Carl is being kind enough to outline his political strategy on the Thinkery, and it's been an interesting watch.

So he's determined to be as much as a pain in the ass of the media as possible, because regardless of getting elected in his own words. "Any press is good press." So he really is trying to get his message out there as much as possible, and seems to think that being set against the prevailing media is a good strategy for doing this.

It's not entirely misguided either, the media has shown time and time again it's bias. And there is a substantial part of the population that aren't voting because there is no representation for them as a party. He will likely be as adversarial as possible any time they keep trying to bring up Jess Philips, and whether they're holding on to White Niggers for a later smear, that will probably come out at some point as well.

I seriously think it's ego driving Carl at this point, not that that wasn't always what was driving him, but realistically he doesn't need any more money or audience than what he already has, and he's admitted that an MEP position is essentially useless in terms of British real politik and the only reason he's interested in going is to smuckle at them.

Whether or not it will actually pan out, I think Carl really is starting to think more like an IRL activist, than an internet one, because the internet slacktivism can only go so far, and rightly or wrongly Carl has a messianic complex.

I take back what I said before about Sargon just pulling a stunt. I'm watching the Thinkery going "my god, you're serious?"

 

[Kalishnakov]

Looks like Carl is playing by the rules of the game, but has added a special twist. Of course, the narrative writers are left with throwing their hands up in the air and ...oops. They've played that same card so many times, it no longer has the same effect.

 

[Fish-Eyed Fool]

Is it me or did Dankula look positively embarrassed to be there?

 

[cecograph]

Sargon's completely obsessed with war metaphors, being a neckbeard who educated himself by playing "Age of Empire". He always reminds me of Mark from Peep Show, somehow crossed with an inexplicably stupider version of David Brent.

But if you're going to appeal to those metaphors, you should probably think carefully about your use of the word "literally", as in: "The game is afoot. We're going to go over the top. We are literally going to blow the fucking whistles. We are going to fix bayonets. And we're going to charge some god damn commies."

There are very few things in this world more pathetic than a fat bastard who admitted to spending his twenties sitting around in a flat getting stoned and playing computer games, who has probably never been in a fight in his life, talking about his sad antics in battlefield terms.

 

[Kalishnakov]

That accounts for the vast majority of the current medias' population as well.

Is it me or did Dankula look positively embarrassed to be there?

Looked like he was having fun when Carl started reeming on the media

 

[YW 525]

Who is 'everyone'? Kiwi farms? The few that are actively trying to run him down for not following their narrative/script ?

It's literally everyone. I was at my local Wal-Mart a few hours ago and some faggot with a camo hat and a mullet was laughing his ass off about Sargon.