r/polyamory

This has been a quiet thread for a bit, time for some new content.

Today, it's a look at risk, entitlement, freedom, and safety.

Let's start at the start, some background on our featured poster (u/testingherwaters).

https://www.reddit.com/r/confession...e_leaving_my_ex_i_have_been_taking_risks_and/ (Archive)
7 Months Ago
I was a true free spirit and then I met him. The first year he did nothing to hold me back but over the course of 5 years he became completely manipulative, controlling and possessive. Since leaving him I just want to do everything he told me not to, and more..!! i am 24f btw.
for example.. driving with no seat belt, Well actually leaving it permanently buckled up behind my back so I don't have to hear the car beep. Driving with my knee, speeding, taking a hitch hike from a random stranger and then having to make a run for it when he tried to touch me and kiss me.
Dating a guy who speeds on his motorcycle, outruns the cops, goes to crazy festivals and is so much crazy fun!
Doing drugs at a festival like acid, ecstasy, mushrooms, katemine.. I do not much care for drugs or even need them but what the heck!
I have been hooking up with guys, girls, and guys and girls! I got piercings, 3 tattoos and I love the pain. It makes me feel so alive.. I unconsciously heated up my knife with my light and swiped it on my arm just to feel that heat. I take rides from reckless drivers and stare at the road with this passion and adventure like I love knowing I am vulnerable to the fait of life.
I flirt with every attractive person I see and I tell them all that I am polyamorous. I am not sure if I am or if it is an excuse to be selfish. I ended up hurting a few people already but I can honestly say I was always completely honest with everyone. I am not a bad person because I am compassionate and upfront from the start but I am just rich on life experiences and do not have time for emotional baggage or drama.
I went to a festival and slept only 2 nights out of a whole week. I ate hardly anything and I jumped at every opportunity to get wild.
I plan on trying an orgy, an all girl sex party, 3 somes...
I got paddled and spanked on a bar at this festival. I know it sounds so slutty but it honestly is all in the name of polyamorous, consensual fun! and bdsm ?
Now this guy I am dating, we are soul mates and so in love.. problem is he does not want to share me and I have this idea I can turn him polyamorous and I know thats so messed up!
I fire dance for a living and honestly do not see a need to conform to reality at all in this moment. Maybe I am crazy but it is working for me, I am happier then I have ever been and I feel no sense of fear or dread. Funny how once i am free my ex suddenly loves all the things about me that he suffocated and dimmed out. Nope. Anyway.. stay wild my friends.

Our heroine (24F) recently got out of a long term relationship of 5 years and has decided to jump right off of the deep end and is now taking risks for the sake of tasking risks.
No safety belt when driving with her legs, cutting herself, tats, piercings, taking drugs (Ketamine, Acid, Mushrooms, etc) from strangers and a whole lot of fucking.

But also she meets a guy during all of this and even though they just started dating she claims that they are soulmates and that she can convert him to poly one day.

(Side Note - it isn't included in this post but she is also allegedly a mother during this time, to a daughter)

So our heroine (funny, I know, because of the hard drugs) is practices polyamory to some degree and will try and get her boyfriend to do so later, but what kind of polyamory does she practice?

https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularo...nk_we_should_allow_our_partners_to_cheat_and/ (Archive)
20 Days Ago
I think we should allow our partners to cheat and vice versa
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I know that this is truly an unpopular opinion.. And classified more along the lines of polyamory, swinger etc..
But sometimes there's nothing like that one special person telling you, you're all mine! Or seeing them get possessive.. I get that. It's nice to feel wanted and safe but honestly most of what I see just becomes codependency. I see so many empty souls running around just filling themselves with expectations.
I get that lying is wrong.. But it's human nature to be attracted to others. I would let my partner be with others if he wanted to. For some reason it doesn't hurt me, doesn't make me love him less and doesn't make me feel any less amazing.
It might be because of my first relationship which I guess was with a predator that I became lacking in this area where I just don't see it being so wrong to flirt and be with others. I only don't do it because of his wishes.. But if I were to do it, it wouldn't feel wrong. We all have attractions. Why sit and worry about what they might do. Why not just allow them to be free if we truly love them.. How does loving someone else hurt people so bad. Why is it such a betrayal to share love.

I left the title in that one because it's really the main selling point, but as a Polyamory scholar (thanks, this thread) I would say this is pretty extreme even by polyamory standards. Additionally, it's important to note as of 20 days ago her relationship still doesn't appear to be polyamorous, because she's referring to things she would do, not things she does.

Let's fast forward to today, and see things are going. (Spoiler : It hasn't turned into a nightmare, yet).

https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/comments/bea6uw/is_it_passive_aggressive_for_him_to_say_he_might/ (Archive)

I met Alex and we were together 5 months so far. At first I was upfront and said I am bi, polyamorous the whole 9 yards. He said he was cool with it and all but as we fell in love he started asking for more and more.
Eventually we are in a full blown monogomous relationship and that lasted a few months. At first it was fine and I was content but I started getting restless and feeling really miserable. I felt like I was lying to myself about who I am and I was so unhappy.
I forced myself to be the bigger person, to respect him and let him go find someone who can fulfill what he needs, because I know it isn't me (mono).
I wanted to finally be a good person and not play with someones emotions or be selfish but to my surprise he didn't want to end it. He said he wanted to try polyamory and that maybe it was a hidden desire of his and part of who is he is.
For a few weeks I was happier then I ever been. Getting this man I love and being so free. A love that sets you free. But I noticed he didn't seem to be venturing out but still always wanting to see me.
As time goes on he seems off sometimes and today he called and said he would have to start wearing condoms with me. I found it really strange because we agreed to wear them with others so we didn't have to with each other. He said that they leak and he gets a rash when he is with a woman who has been with other men recently.... Said his urologist confirmed this many times as to what his rash was.
I accused him of that being bs and him just trying to make a point or trying to stack guilt or shame onto what I'm doing. I'm really not sure what to do here. I don't want to lose him but I also don't want either of us to go on being unhappy.
Mind you when we were mono we fought a lot about dumb things like petty, things that only mono people would fight about. Since opening the relationship we haven't fought once.

So, she finally talked her "soulmate" into poly by threatening to end the relationship (always a great start, btw). She, presumably, starts slutting around and her "soulmate" starts getting rashes on his genitals and skin and is going to start using condoms with her - at his doctor's suggestion.

(Side note to any kiwis - if you're going to bang a poly, tatted up, acid triping, fire dancer from burning man - WRAP THAT SHIT UP)

He gave her everything she wanted and she has the nerve to be offended that he asks for a single thing, a thing that could wind up saving his life. The only shocking thing isn't her entitlement, the shock comes from her thinking she's a big risk taker when her "soulmate" must be a daredevil-level risk taker to put it in her raw at any point.
 
Mind you when we were mono we fought a lot about dumb things like petty, things that only mono people would fight about. Since opening the relationship we haven't fought once.

I'm very curious to know what she thinks are petty, dumb things that only "monos" fight about. So far in this thread we've had just about every "mono" relationship issue you can possibly think of rearing up with a vengeance in poly relationships. And about a hundred more that "monos" don't have to deal with.
Also, I assume they haven't fought since opening up the relationship because she's too busy fucking other dudes to speak to him. That's generally how things go.
 
Honestly, at least most of the dumbasses in this thread pretend to be honest and open and then act all surprised by their partners jealousy. This psycho endorses lying and cheating for the purpose of intentionally inciting a jealousy reaction in her partner. She likes to hurt people on purpose because it makes her feel good to see their hurt reaction. She's a fucking sociopath.
 
I don't understand the "controlling" thing, they're basically assuming everyone is poly and no one would be in a mono relationship unless their partner is a jealous, possessive, controlling asshole.
Sometimes I feel like poly people are just a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
Honestly it seems to be something people say to avoid feeling bad and get their partners off their back. You know how abuser are controlling, you wouldn’t want be a abuser? Controlling in these cycles seems mean anything that trys to make someone do or not do something. Unfortunately all most all communication is done to affect someones actions. So how does this work with poly being all about communication? Well basically my way or the high way. You shouldn’t put any limits down that don’t involve you, like you won’t do more than two dates a week. That’s fine but if you ask someone else to keep their dating few times a week you are horrible horrible person regardless of reasons for that request. Who cares if it’s have enough time with kids, it’s their time and you need respect that.
 
I don't understand the "controlling" thing, they're basically assuming everyone is poly and no one would be in a mono relationship unless their partner is a jealous, possessive, controlling asshole.

Technically they might be right, though I doubt they know why. Primates are rarely monogamous, and there is evidence to suggest that monogamy in humans is an evolutionary response to an increased risk of infanticide:


That doesn't justify polyamorous people's false sense of superiority, of course. No amount of performative wokeness is going to stop a dude from chimping out when he realizes Tyrone is the father of his wife's new child. That's why polyamorous couples have so many rules: their elaborate fantasy roleplay comes crashing down the moment it crosses the uncomfortable lines of reality.

It's essentially the same as BDSM: people may find it thrilling in a safe environment, but it becomes outright horrific if they lose control of it.
 
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I don't understand the "controlling" thing, they're basically assuming everyone is poly and no one would be in a mono relationship unless their partner is a jealous, possessive, controlling asshole.
Sometimes I feel like poly people are just a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
It's kind of like Christian fundamentalists who think that if you don't teach the Ten Commandments in school, everyone will go around raping, murdering, and coveting their neighbors' oxen. Says more about their mindset than anything else.
 
It's kind of like Christian fundamentalists who think that if you don't teach the Ten Commandments in school, everyone will go around raping, murdering, and coveting their neighbors' oxen. Says more about their mindset than anything else.
I have to say, that this thread, and all the threads on trannies and furries, has started to make me think that a certain percentage of the population does need strictly enforced social rules to not make terrible life choices.
 
So I found from the trans community thread a Tumblr blog that details what it's like to be a lesbian on Tinder. Although the main focus is men pretending to be troons to sleep with lesbians, there's also a section dedicated to poly couples spamming the lesbian section looking for unicorns to fuck.

Some of the highlights:

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So I found from the trans community thread a Tumblr blog that details what it's like to be a lesbian on Tinder. Although the main focus is men pretending to be troons to sleep with lesbians, there's also a section dedicated to poly couples spamming the lesbian section looking for unicorns to fuck.

Some of the highlights:

Well either Ayla or TJ (probably TJ) is a trans man. So here we have a homophobic lesbian pretending to be a straight man and another probably homophobic lesbian pretending to be a straight woman so neither have to be gay. And they seek a third homophobic lesbian to have not-lesbian lesbian sex with. I honestly don't know if I would call that lesbianism, but it's fucking gay for sure. I suppose it still counts though because if you want everyone to pretend you're a man, fine, you're a man. GTFO of lesbian dating apps then.

Honestly, I know people say trans men pass better but it's mainly at a glance because "beard". Trans men do not generally pass, though I will concede trans women are far more horrific looking in general.
 
it's because a hairy androgynous blob (which both kinds of trannies often resemble) can easily pass as male, but not as female. ftm really have it pretty easy in that regard.
also, an ftm will actually develop a male sounding voice on HRT, which also helps her pass as a man. mtf on the other hand can never have a female sounding voice, because the effect of male puberty on the vocal cords is not reversible.
FTMs only pass if you've never met one before. If you have, they rarely do.
 
FTMs only pass if you've never met one before. If you have, they rarely do.
Yeah the longer you live in an area with lots of them the quicker the thought process of "that's an oddly short little man" and/or "that guy kind of looks/talks like a dyke" to "oh, FTM, for sure" goes. The voice is deep but the feminist vocal fry tends to stick around.
 
So I found from the trans community thread a Tumblr blog that details what it's like to be a lesbian on Tinder. Although the main focus is men pretending to be troons to sleep with lesbians, there's also a section dedicated to poly couples spamming the lesbian section looking for unicorns to fuck.

Some of the highlights:


Andrew Rice Clay over here!
 
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