Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

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Cuck has unprotected his account. Maybe this idiot thinks this motion will definitely work and the case is already won so no need to protect the account anymore. With how exceptional this idiot has been i wouldn't be surprised if that is his train of thought.

He tweeted about the Lucifer TV show, I think. That's about it.

Hot take: what if La Choy dumped his lawyer? Remember the last time he protected his account after retaining the lawyer, then when the lawsuit was not imminent, he unprotected his tweets and his defamatory/contradictory statements continued to be exposed?

Is it happening again, except that La Choy is playing dumb to the realities of his situation?

After skimming 12 pages of Casey Erick restating the same justification to every single point of the BHBH document request - you can tell he's billing them by the goddamn page, hour and cube decimeter of air consumed at the same time.

Is he going to do that? La Choy lied on a lot of these points through both his tweets and his ethics complaints towards Nick and Ty. We know that and can prove that. Otherwise, there would be no reason for La Choy to have had his account protected and stopped tweeting, because in his mind, Vic would have to prove that he didn't "assault 100+ women", right?

I don't know how Erick can defend these tweets.

Their goal is basically just to force BHBH to file a response contradicting them and get the court to rule that the discovery is allowed. That will take some time, which they sorely need; their lawyer is trying to get up to speed on everything and BHBH isn't making that easy. Note that they only had 3 business days to file this after receiving the deposition notice, so they were doing a bunch of copy-and-paste to get it out the door in time.

That would make pure bank for Erick, but wouldn't that make him look bad? Nick will read out the response if he gets it, which could turn potential clients off from even going to him.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

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So a tumblr blog full of "first hand" accounts? Is this their golden proof? Is this what they are planning on nailing Vic with? More stories without proof?
Big oof.

 

[Spectre_06]

This reply is specifically to quash the subpoena duces tecem; all that is is a summons to appear at a specific time on a specific day for something having to do with the legal specifics (in this case the deposition at BHBH office). The claims against it are that:

1.) Plaintiff issued it without consulting the Defendants' lawyer, thus making it a one-sided decision.
2.) Plaintiff doesn't give enough time to find any and all evidence they demand for the deposition.

On the first part, it's a valid argument. There had to be an attempt certified with the court that they tried to broker an agreed-upon date and time for the hearing and that one party was unwilling to do so, necessitating a hard decision of a time for the deposition to take place. On that alone they have a case in my person opinion. It would be like Quartering's lawyer, located in Texas, mandating Matt Loter, in Connecticut, be at his office three days from the filing or face contempt of court, and Matt has no say. It simply can't be done because it places an undue hardship on the other side.

As for the second point, three weeks is not a lot of time to put together everything that BHBH is demanding they provide. My lawsuit against HP, for example, took a month of digging even though I knew what I was looking for. They're asking for years of information on very specific points, which is going ot require more time.

On this, though, I think they're going to try to allege spousal privilege. Texas law requires three things for a common law marriage:

1.) Intent to be married (Monica and Ron had previously stated publicly and in their Twitter bios they were engaged);
2.) Cohabitation, and;
3.) They have put themselves "out there" as a married couple.

They meet the first two easily, but the third they have not. Up until a few weeks ago (when I was paying attention) Ron had in his bio that they were engaged. This isn't an "and/or" scenario--in order to be viewed as having a common law marriage all three must be met. What's more, civil cases do not automatically grant retroactive privilege, which means that anything said before X date is not necessarily guaranteed to be covered under this. If they try to assert attorney-client privilege, that also won't help them, as you can send stuff to an attorney in the hopes he can invoke it. That's still a legitimate target to be handed over for discovery purposes.

 

[Urbanmech]

This reply is specifically to quash the subpoena duces tecem; all that is is a summons to appear at a specific time on a specific day for something having to do with the legal specifics (in this case the deposition at BHBH office). The claims against it are that:

1.) Plaintiff issued it without consulting the Defendants' lawyer, thus making it a one-sided decision.
2.) Plaintiff doesn't give enough time to find any and all evidence they demand for the deposition.

On the first part, it's a valid argument. There had to be an attempt certified with the court that they tried to broker an agreed-upon date and time for the hearing and that one party was unwilling to do so, necessitating a hard decision of a time for the deposition to take place. On that alone they have a case in my person opinion. It would be like Quartering's lawyer, located in Texas, mandating Matt Loter, in Connecticut, be at his office three days from the filing or face contempt of court, and Matt has no say. It simply can't be done because it places an undue hardship on the other side.

As for the second point, three weeks is not a lot of time to put together everything that BHBH is demanding they provide. My lawsuit against HP, for example, took a month of digging even though I knew what I was looking for. They're asking for years of information on very specific points, which is going ot require more time.

On this, though, I think they're going to try to allege spousal privilege. Texas law requires three things for a common law marriage:

1.) Intent to be married (Monica and Ron had previously stated publicly and in their Twitter bios they were engaged);
2.) Cohabitation, and;
3.) They have put themselves "out there" as a married couple.

They meet the first two easily, but the third they have not. Up until a few weeks ago (when I was paying attention) Ron had in his bio that they were engaged. This isn't an "and/or" scenario--in order to be viewed as having a common law marriage all three must be met. What's more, civil cases do not automatically grant retroactive privilege, which means that anything said before X date is not necessarily guaranteed to be covered under this. If they try to assert attorney-client privilege, that also won't help them, as you can send stuff to an attorney in the hopes he can invoke it. That's still a legitimate target to be handed over for discovery purposes.

Monica a couple weeks ago in a tweet said Ron is her Fiance…..so 3 it out.

 

[altleftleftleft]

So a tumblr blog full of "first hand" accounts? Is this their golden proof? Is this what they are planning on nailing Vic with? More stories without proof?
Big oof.

If you don't have sandbags to make a dam, why not try the same thing with cardboard?

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

If you don't have sandbags to make a dam, why not try the same thing with cardboard?

you think these fucks can afford cardboard? theyre building their dam by telling the oncoming flood that its going to hurt their feelings

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Monica a couple weeks ago in a tweet said Ron is her Fiance…..so 3 it out.

That doesn't do anything but prevent Ron from being forced to produce evidence against her in the event that the court asks him to since they only cemented their actual marriage after all the accusations. They weren't married at the time of all the events being called into question by the lolsuit and spousal privilege is not retroactive.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

That doesn't do anything but prevent Ron from being forced to produce evidence against her in the event that the court asks him to since they only cemented their actual marriage after all the accusations. They weren't married at the time of all the evnts being called into question by the lolsuit and spousal privilege is not retroactive.

by god, if they try for retroactive spousal privilege, ty will nail them to a fucking cross

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

So a tumblr blog full of "first hand" accounts? Is this their golden proof? Is this what they are planning on nailing Vic with? More stories without proof?
Big oof.

With about 90% of the accusations being anonymous? I'd say that's the best PULL can manage.

 

[Immortal Technique]

So a tumblr blog full of "first hand" accounts? Is this their golden proof? Is this what they are planning on nailing Vic with? More stories without proof?
Big oof.

Doubt it. It's a post created by PULL (((shocking))) so the orge dykes can flick each other's beans over their fan fiction.

fingersnap fingersnap fingersnap So brave, bravo fingersnap fingersnap fingersnap

 

[Dopey Cunt]

With about 90% of the accusations being anonymous? I'd say that's the best PULL can manage.

That's retarded. I hope you or anyone doesn't believe anonymous claims prove something happened because that would also make you and all of them retarded.
Anonymity doesn't prove anything in the courts because what the court pays attention to is concrete, hard evidence. If ANY of those people on that blog can provide any sort of PHYSICAL proof of their victimhood like a video, police report, a rape kit or a picture of him CLEARLY touching them inappropriately, then that entire shitstain is absolutely pointless and all it's doing is parroting the same dumb retarded shit that landed KV in the exact position that it's currently in. So it's still laughable if this is the best they can do.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

On the first part, it's a valid argument. There had to be an attempt certified with the court that they tried to broker an agreed-upon date and time for the hearing and that one party was unwilling to do so, necessitating a hard decision of a time for the deposition to take place. On that alone they have a case in my person opinion.

Ty is in contact with Erick. Was it stated that this was done without the consent of Erick?

As for the second point, three weeks is not a lot of time to put together everything that BHBH is demanding they provide. My lawsuit against HP, for example, took a month of digging even though I knew what I was looking for. They're asking for years of information on very specific points, which is going ot require more time.

The problem with this is that it's extremely outlandish for an idiot like La Choy to make his "100+ women" claim and be given months to years to conjure up these women and have them testify in a defamation case that has the statute of limitations of a year. He would have to waste time and money finding them on the internet and paying for them come to testify (assuming that they even want to come) . And that assumes that all the women fit the legal definition of "assault" or "robbing", as he referred to it in his tweets.

A lot of the stuff being asked for, I would assume, involved just asking for their service providers to give them their information, mostly within a two-year span of what was sent and what was received. Unless the defendants gave them specifically what they need to bring them to court. Or they, you know, fuck up.

 

[Jack Atlas]

For the guys more knowledgeable on the law, as i am not, is this a good/effective move? In either having Vic spend too much money or winning them the lawsuit? Or is this something Ty will slap away easily without it having any effect on Vic or his pocket?

 

[Jub-Jub]

On the first part, it's a valid argument. There had to be an attempt certified with the court that they tried to broker an agreed-upon date and time for the hearing and that one party was unwilling to do so, necessitating a hard decision of a time for the deposition to take place. On that alone they have a case in my person opinion. It would be like Quartering's lawyer, located in Texas, mandating Matt Loter, in Connecticut, be at his office three days from the filing or face contempt of court, and Matt has no say. It simply can't be done because it places an undue hardship on the other side.

Being a ~2 hour car ride away and in the same state is a pretty big difference to the Quaterpounder's situation. In a stream Nick had seemed to indicate that deposition dates and times had been negotiated and agreed for both parties, so hopefully this is a (needed) delaying action and an attempt at playing silly buggers. Ty's already stated he doesn't like playing stupid games and will hand out stupid prizes.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

For the guys more knowledgeable on the law, as i am not, is this a good/effective move? In either having Vic spend too much money or winning them the lawsuit? Or is this something Ty will slap away easily without it having any effect on Vic or his pocket?

It's actually a really common tactic that's used in order to force the opposition to burn through all their coffers until there's nothing left, forcing them to fold and allowing you to win by default I think. There's an actual term for it but I had forgotten it. I think it was called SLAAP or some such and I also believe Ty stated that he had a plan for if the defense attempted it themselves.
Anyone who's more knowledgeable, please feel free to chime in and correct me if I'm misinformed. Learning about law and the court system is actually very fascinating.

 

[AnOminous]

Monica a couple weeks ago in a tweet said Ron is her Fiance…..so 3 it out.

There's no such thing as "cuck living in sin" privilege in Texas. You have to be actually married.

For the guys more knowledgeable on the law, as i am not, is this a good/effective move? In either having Vic spend too much money or winning them the lawsuit? Or is this something Ty will slap away easily without it having any effect on Vic or his pocket?

BHBH and the plaintiff are the ones forcing this straight into court. That's what they want. Ron Soye's blustering and bullshit about wanting to go to court was the ineffective REEEEEEing of a frog. They can either go straight to deposition now or go to court and fight it, and apparently, that's how it's going to be from here on out.

They had their opportunity for this to be collegial and nice, but SoyeBoye just had to act like he's some big swinging dick and now his ass is going to have to pay the check his mouth made out.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

That's exceptional. I hope you or anyone doesn't believe anonymous claims prove something happened because that would also make you and all of them exceptional.
Anonymity doesn't prove anything in the courts because what the court pays attention to is concrete, hard evidence. If ANY of those people on that blog can provide any sort of PHYSICAL proof of their victimhood like a video, police report, a rape kit or a picture of him CLEARLY touching them inappropriately, then that entire shitstain is absolutely pointless and all it's doing is parroting the same dumb exceptional shit that landed KV in the exact position that it's currently in. So it's still laughable if this is the best they can do.

Nah not believing any of the shit they've said/posted. Just laughing at the fact the only things they have are anonymous posts

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Nah not believing any of the shit they've said/posted. Just laughing at the fact the only things they have are anonymous posts

That is the appropriate response. Come laugh with us, brother.

 

[Immortal Technique]

It's actually a really common tactic that's used in order to force the opposition to burn through all their coffers until there's nothing left, forcing them to fold and allowing you to win by default I think. There's an actual term for it but I had forgotten it. I think it was called SLAAP or some such and I also believe Ty stated that he had a plan for if the defense attempted it themselves.
Anyone who's more knowledgeable, please feel free to chime in and correct me if I'm misinformed. Learning about law and the court system is actually very fascinating.

The strategy makes sense.........when you're the ones with more money to burn. I doubt the MoRons have more to spend than Vic in this lawsuit. If Ty's firm is spending money fighting motions, the MoRons are spending writing them up.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

The strategy makes sense.........when you're the ones with more money to burn. I doubt the MoRons have more to spend than Vic in this lawsuit. If Ty's firm is spending money fighting motions, the MoRons are spending writing them up.

Didn't Nick or Ty say that they've only used a few thousand out of the GoFundMe so far? Like, all of the evidence gathering and such, wasn't it paid out of pocket by Vic before they actually touched the warchest?