Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[AnOminous]

Plus, isn't this motion just a standard response to a deposition to limit it's scope? That seems to be the meat-and-potatoes of it, and they're just trying to tack on as much shit to see what they can get away with to help the MoRon case.

They haven't even claimed there's anything wrong with the scope. The sole objections to the deposition subpoena are these:

3. Defendant objects to the Notice of Deposition as follows:
a. The deposition was unilaterally noticed without confirmation of Defendant’s counsel, with less than a two-week notice, and without sufficient advance notice of the deposition.
b. Defendant objects to the date and time of the proposed deposition.
c. Defendant objects to the place of the taking of the proposed deposition.

That's it. Date, time and place.

 

[Reigensveld]

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I'm speechless...

The only undue burden they need to protect Ron Toye from is Monica, if and when she decides she'd like to try going cowgirl. I imagine it would be a lot like Free Willy, but instead of perfectly landing the jump, the whale lands on top of the kid instead.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

They haven't even claimed there's anything wrong with the scope. The sole objections to the deposition subpoena are these:

3. Defendant objects to the Notice of Deposition as follows:
a. The deposition was unilaterally noticed without confirmation of Defendant’s counsel, with less than a two-week notice, and without sufficient advance notice of the deposition.
b. Defendant objects to the date and time of the proposed deposition.
c. Defendant objects to the place of the taking of the proposed deposition.

That's it. Date, time and place.

Further down are the objections to producing documentation for the interrogatories/deposition. Citing it as "overly broad and not reasonably limited in scope or time."

 

[Immortal Technique]

They haven't even claimed there's anything wrong with the scope. The sole objections to the deposition subpoena are these:

3. Defendant objects to the Notice of Deposition as follows:
a. The deposition was unilaterally noticed without confirmation of Defendant’s counsel, with less than a two-week notice, and without sufficient advance notice of the deposition.
b. Defendant objects to the date and time of the proposed deposition.
c. Defendant objects to the place of the taking of the proposed deposition.

That's it. Date, time and place.

The scope stuff I mentioned was Casey's 'Objections to requests for production of documents' portion of the motion. The part where Casey just copy/paste the same response to all of Ty's subpoena duces tecum.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

I don't know if it had been already brought up in this discussion, but the document starts with allegations of Vic's sexual advances on students of Liberty Christian Academy in 1989. As for the evidence, there's a twitter thread of an alleged victim, a post from another alleged victim, and a proof from Vic's resume, that he's worked there.
The second allegation is just implication that he must have been fired due to a sexual misconduct in 1987 with no proofs.

I'm not sure if we can and should archive google documents, but here's the original link:

Vic Mignogna: Allegations and Supporting or Relevant Information to Those Allegations

Vic Mignogna: Allegations and Supporting or Relevant Information to Those Allegations Table of Contents Allegation of Sexual Advances on a Student and Minor (1989) Allegation of Job Termination Due to Sexually Inappropriate Behavior with Students (1987) Allegation of Sexually Inappropriate B...

docs.google.com

edit: grammar
edit№2: see file attached; surprisingly, they allow you to download it

I'm in Twitter Jail for calling someone an idiot (remember, if a term was used in the 1700s to mean "retard" that makes it hate speech in 2019 -- as long as you're insulting a leftist) but I remember the name Emily Rose Eisemann. I'll try and see if I have it archived someplace -- she had a tumblr and twitter and DA account, all the same, with IIRC some shitty degenerate shit, random "hey white people are evil so lets draw this asian character as a 1850s caricature of a negro" stuff, that sort of thing.

A google search of her shows her name coming up as part of "Boycott Anime Matsuri." Looking at her facebook, she's got a ton of socjus, orange man bad, believe wammynz stuff.

Edit:
https://www.facebook.com/emily.eisemann
https://archive.fo/IgtpX

https://www.instagram.com/emilyroseeisemann/?hl=en
https://archive.fo/7A4KX

Edit: Found it.

Here's her being bragged about for doing some fan video for some band called "My Chemical Romance":

https://www.deviantart.com/mylivingromance/journal/NEW-OFFICIAL-VIDEO-279793537

And that leads to searching her name and that band name and finding this:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/my-chemical-romance-video-directed-fan-282507

Which links to her youtube account:
https://www.youtube.com/user/RosaLui

Which finds her Tumblr:
https://rosalui.tumblr.com/
https://archive.fo/E1W6r

And the archive I made 2 months ago when I first saw that google doc being shared around on twitter by... a kickvic sock account that had just been created, just tweeted that shit out, and was almost immediately retweeted by her:

https://twitter.com/rozalui
https://archive.fo/abjDC

Don't remember what her sock's name was. Started with an E.

 

[Kosher Salt]

On the first part, it's a valid argument. There had to be an attempt certified with the court that they tried to broker an agreed-upon date and time for the hearing and that one party was unwilling to do so, necessitating a hard decision of a time for the deposition to take place. On that alone they have a case in my person opinion. It would be like Quartering's lawyer, located in Texas, mandating Matt Loter, in Connecticut, be at his office three days from the filing or face contempt of court, and Matt has no say. It simply can't be done because it places an undue hardship on the other side.

As for the second point, three weeks is not a lot of time to put together everything that BHBH is demanding they provide. My lawsuit against HP, for example, took a month of digging even though I knew what I was looking for. They're asking for years of information on very specific points, which is going ot require more time.

I could see the court granting a delay in the subpoena for deposition because of the very short notice. They only got about 1 1/2 weeks notice.

However, the defendants still have a deadline to respond to the petition, which is coming up very soon. It's 20 days after the date they were served, plus the following Monday. Ron and Monica's lawyer accepted service on April 18, which was already 20 days ago... their responses will be due next Monday.

The requests for disclosure that were made in the petition are going to be due here pretty soon also. It specified that all of the requests for disclosure were made pursuant to Texas Rule of Civil Procedure 194 and the timeframe required under Rule 194.3, which specifies 30 days. Nick said that this was an aggressive move by BHBH - requesting disclosure in the petition placed a shorter deadline on the defendants. They don't get much time. 30 days only gives them until Saturday, May 18.

Nick also mentioned that the way that discovery works in Texas is that they can respond initially with as much of the information as they're able to gather up, and then supplement it with additional information as they are able to come up with it.

 

[AnOminous]

Further down are the objections to producing documentation for the interrogatories/deposition. Citing it as "overly broad and not reasonably limited in scope or time."

The interrogatories are a different thing.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

The interrogatories are a different thing.

I realize, but that's where the question of scope and such come from. Requesting the documentation that came from Ty's original interrogatories evidently being "too broad" and "asking for privileged information" or some shit.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Incorrect. SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) are basically frivolous lawsuits filed to shut down someone's First Amendment rights. Basically sue someone who's saying something you don't like until they're broke and they fold.

For example, if I tweeted that you were, indeed, a dopey cunt, and you sued for me defamation, the case would rejected on anti-SLAPP grounds since I have the right to call you a dopey cunt. If a case is rejected by anti-SLAPP you have to pay my legal fees as well as your own.

If, however, I called you a dopey cunt who rapes little boy, and you sued me, that wouldn't be frivolous since I alleged that you had performed some heinous acts.

Thanks for clarifying this.

 

[BigDuckEnergy]

I don't speak legalese but wouldn't this have been a motion filed at some point by the defendants anyway? And has Ty just fucked them over by forcing them to file it now which would ultimately have it dealt with sooner then it would have been if they did it in on their own time?

 

[Zero Day Defense]

This reply is specifically to quash the subpoena duces tecem; all that is is a summons to appear at a specific time on a specific day for something having to do with the legal specifics (in this case the deposition at BHBH office). The claims against it are that:

1.) Plaintiff issued it without consulting the Defendants' lawyer, thus making it a one-sided decision.
2.) Plaintiff doesn't give enough time to find any and all evidence they demand for the deposition.

On the first part, it's a valid argument. There had to be an attempt certified with the court that they tried to broker an agreed-upon date and time for the hearing and that one party was unwilling to do so, necessitating a hard decision of a time for the deposition to take place. On that alone they have a case in my person opinion. It would be like Quartering's lawyer, located in Texas, mandating Matt Loter, in Connecticut, be at his office three days from the filing or face contempt of court, and Matt has no say. It simply can't be done because it places an undue hardship on the other side.

As for the second point, three weeks is not a lot of time to put together everything that BHBH is demanding they provide. My lawsuit against HP, for example, took a month of digging even though I knew what I was looking for. They're asking for years of information on very specific points, which is going ot require more time.

1. A pertinent question is whether or not they even retained a lawyer as of the time of the notice being filed. Given that representation-by-attorney isn't a right in civil court, in the case that they retained a lawyer after the notice was filed, I doubt that they'd have a leg to stand on there.

2. They repeatedly spoke about these alleged incidents. Regardless of how many people we're talking, here, if they were willing to allude to several figures of women for months, it should also be expected that they have receipts to begin with. Half the point of the relevant interrogatories is to demonstrate preemptively that they in fact don't even have names because the people don't exist.

There's also no explanation of how long it would take to get each and every name, even if you wanted to give them the time to do so.

 

[AnOminous]

There's also no explanation of how long it would take to get each and every name, even if you wanted to give them the time to do so.

And them arguing they can't get them indicates they flat out had no evidence of any of this bullshit at the time they publicly told their lies about Vic.

 

[A_right_horrorshow]

It would be cool if he showed up at the courthouse with 100 women marching behind him, all with smiley face masks.

That would entirely rely on Soye knowing 100 women willing to be in the same room as him

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Found this under Soye's feed. Thoughts?

 

[Army Burger]

Found this under Soye's feed. Thoughts?

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NJ4K is a fucking moron

 

[AnOminous]

NJ4K is a fucking moron

You could make accurate predictions by just assuming the opposite of whatever that Shane-tier mongoloid drooler says.

 

[MAPK phosphatase]

She? You should know by now to never trust any avatar.

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Let him be a dog. Dogs don't vote.

 

[RodgerDodger]

There's also no explanation of how long it would take to get each and every name, even if you wanted to give them the time to do so.

But they have all claimed that "AN INVESTIGATION WAS DONE!" These names, addresses and accounts should already be a matter of record. They would simply need to send Ty Beard the Report. Please don't tell me that all the Defendants failed to follow the Texas State White Paper on HR Harassment Investigations?

 

[AnOminous]

But they have all claimed that "AN INVESTIGATION WAS DONE!" These names, addresses and accounts should already be a matter of record. They would simply need to send Ty Beard the Report. Please don't tell me that all the Defendants failed to follow the Texas State White Paper on HR Harassment Investigations?

But that report is privileged. It was an internal investigation. It's not like they were disclosing information from it to random conventions along with lies that Vic was about to be immediately arrested. . .and of course they gave it to trusted people. . .like Ron Soye. That wouldn't breach the privilege. . .at least if Ron Soye was an agent of Funimation.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Found this under Soye's feed. Thoughts?

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NJ4K makes me shed a single tear for the human race.