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Genie The Hedgehog said:
Based on the lies he tells his paypigs, he wants to portray himself as a bumbling idiot who can barely dress himself. So fuck it, why not encourage such exceptionalism.
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I'm 45% sure that Kat lays out Phil's clothes for the day so he remembers to change out of his pajamas. And even then he only does it half way.
 
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Sparkletor said:
I don't think the gifted games really make that big a difference to his taxes since he still makes around $100k a year. Even if he got a gifted $60 game once a month he would only get to take $720 off his income. It's not like he's getting Armani suits or Rolex watches.
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It reminds me a bit of someone I know who exaggerates their "charitable donations" on their taxes every year, except they still take the standard deduction anyway, so it literally does not matter.

Even in your scenario of once per month, that would save DSP like $200-$250. This is the same guy that said that renting out his CT condo for an extra $500/month after paying off the property management company "wasn't worth it."
 
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Salubrious said:
It reminds me a bit of someone I know who exaggerates their "charitable donations" on their taxes every year, except they still take the standard deduction anyway, so it literally does not matter.

Even in your scenario of once per month, that would save DSP like $200-$250. This is the same guy that said that renting out his CT condo for an extra $500/month after paying off the property management company "wasn't worth it."
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the math is super simple for those that dont understand it. any money less than all of the money, is not enough money for dsp. hes like a fucking aaa game dev sneaking microtransactions into their game. MOAR MONEY
 
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Sparkletor said:
I'm 45% sure that Kat lays out Phil's clothes for the day so he remembers to change out of his pajamas. And even then he only does it half way.
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I wonder if he showers before he changes...

Stalker Sociopath said:
If she really does steal his paypigs, that may drive him to say something rude enough about her to get him kicked off Twitch. Twitch will put up with a lot of stuff, but if you start putting down women or other protected classes then they will put the smackdown on you
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Well, two of her top cheerer go by the alias of omnipotentswagginz and infinite_55 so...
 
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Shambler said:
its been my assumption he's never actually received a gift but only called them gifts to keep up the "poor me" narrative, why are we running on the assumption phil is telling the truth about gifts
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He has definitely actually been gifted stuff before. The most recent Forza game (the deluxe version) was given by TaniaRaven (I think that's her Twitch name), and anonymouse gifted the most recent WWE game Phil played as well, though that may have been just via tipping enough money.
 
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I was curious about gift taxes so i googled it and saw that the gift amount was raised from 14k to 15k last year.probably why he's harping on it so much, trying to use every penny possible on his write off. I was curious if it's still considered a gift if he explicitly tells someone to give him a gift in lieu of money to avoid paying taxes. Didn't really find anything though.
 
I asked my CPA buddy and he said those arent gifts and should be considered taxable income based on my description he said.

However, after I talked to him I realized, why the fuck is he even risking this? He can do it legally and its the same outcome:

  1. Receive taxable "tip" of $60 for Game X.
  2. Buy Game X with $60.
  3. Write off $60 for Game X on taxes.

This $60 write off erases the $60 tip. As someone said, write offs dont subtract from taxes owed, its not like if you owe $5000 and you write off a $60 game you now owe $5940. Instead its more like if you earned $100,060 and write off $60, you now earned $100,000 tax wise.

so why play this autistic game and risk some detractor filing an IRS whisteblower report on him? I think you need his social to do it but i wouldnt put it past some troll to call the IRS until they get someone who will take action and look into it.

Just do it the correct, legal, less risky way, dave.
 
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der rademacher said:
I wonder if he showers before he changes...
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Phil has said many many time that he showers between 1st and 2nd stream.

Maybe he showers when he gets up and he doesn't just get out of bed, slick back his hair and star streaming. Maybe he is working his ass off so hard streaming he showers twice a day.

Just kidding. Kat probably told him he stinks and he needs to shower before she eats dinner with him.
 
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gin_nose said:
I asked my CPA buddy and he said those arent gifts and should be considered taxable income based on my description he said.

However, after I talked to him I realized, why the fuck is he even risking this? He can do it legally and its the same outcome:

  1. Receive taxable "tip" of $60 for Game X.
  2. Buy Game X with $60.
  3. Write off $60 for Game X on taxes.
This $60 write off erases the $60 tip. As someone said, write offs dont subtract from taxes owed, its not like if you owe $5000 and you write off a $60 game you now owe $5940. Instead its more like if you earned $100,060 and write off $60, you now earned $100,000 tax wise.

so why play this autistic game and risk some detractor filing an IRS whisteblower report on him? I think you need his social to do it but i wouldnt put it past some troll to call the IRS until they get someone who will take action and look into it.

Just do it the correct, legal, less risky way, dave.
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They'd like to have it, but it's ok to leave it blank if you don't know it. I'm not going to file one of those things because I did some work for the IRS Criminal Investigation unit and yeah, they take all that shit super seriously and follow it up.
 
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gin_nose said:
I asked my CPA buddy and he said those arent gifts and should be considered taxable income based on my description he said.

However, after I talked to him I realized, why the fuck is he even risking this? He can do it legally and its the same outcome:

  1. Receive taxable "tip" of $60 for Game X.
  2. Buy Game X with $60.
  3. Write off $60 for Game X on taxes.
This $60 write off erases the $60 tip. As someone said, write offs dont subtract from taxes owed, its not like if you owe $5000 and you write off a $60 game you now owe $5940. Instead its more like if you earned $100,060 and write off $60, you now earned $100,000 tax wise.

so why play this autistic game and risk some detractor filing an IRS whisteblower report on him? I think you need his social to do it but i wouldnt put it past some troll to call the IRS until they get someone who will take action and look into it.

Just do it the correct, legal, less risky way, dave.
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I don't think you need his social if you report his business. They'd probably look into the business part, and if they find anything suspicious, look into his personal taxes. Tax law shit is WAY out of my realm of knowledge though.
 
I think regarding the "gift" stuff, Phil just doesn't report any of that period. Presumably, someone gives him a code, he redeems said code and that's the end of it. There's no business expense to mark because Phil isn't spending any money. The closest comparison I can think of is if you go for a business lunch with a client, and the client pays for it. You can't use it as a write off because you didn't spend any money on it, even though your business benefited from it. I guess the IRS could technically open an investigation if they believed Phil wasn't reporting a business gift, but it seems like such a small issue to bother with, and I think DSP could just say it was a game he also played outside of the stream so it was a gift in the traditional sense since he didn't just use it for work.

I have a feeling DSP just throws around tax phrases like he does anything else he doesn't actually understand. It sounds like everything is handled by an accountant, so I wouldn't be surprised if Phil is assuming he's getting more write offs than he actually is. In reality, he might just be smugly dropping off a pile of receipts his account just sweeps into the trash because they are non deductible items and no matter how many times he tries to explain it to Phil, it never sinks in. I think the extent of Phil's tax knowledge is he knows PayPal and Twitch income has to be reported because it is actively tracked and they both send you relevant forms letting you know this (1099's I think?)

Either way, I don't think it is a big scandal, and even if we didn't have the no trolling rule in place I'd recommend against bombarding the IRS with fraud reports for video game gifts. I'd also point out Phil sometimes lies about gifts in the first place when the "gifted" item is something he just purchased himself but doesn't want to own up to buying because he knows he'll be rightly criticized for wasting money when he's simultaneously begging for help with his bills he's apparently forced to pay every three days instead of once a month.
 
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Cyber Bowling said:
I think regarding the "gift" stuff, Phil just doesn't report any of that period. Presumably, someone gives him a code, he redeems said code and that's the end of it. There's no business expense to mark because Phil isn't spending any money. The closest comparison I can think of is if you go for a business lunch with a client, and the client pays for it. You can't use it as a write off because you didn't spend any money on it, even though your business benefited from it. I guess the IRS could technically open an investigation if they believed Phil wasn't reporting a business gift, but it seems like such a small issue to bother with, and I think DSP could just say it was a game he also played outside of the stream so it was a gift in the traditional sense since he didn't just use it for work.

I have a feeling DSP just throws around tax phrases like he does anything else he doesn't actually understand. It sounds like everything is handled by an accountant, so I wouldn't be surprised if Phil is assuming he's getting more write offs than he actually is. In reality, he might just be smugly dropping off a pile of receipts his account just sweeps into the trash because they are non deductible items and no matter how many times he tries to explain it to Phil, it never sinks in. I think the extent of Phil's tax knowledge is he knows PayPal and Twitch income has to be reported because it is actively tracked and they both send you relevant forms letting you know this (1099's I think?)

Either way, I don't think it is a big scandal, and even if we didn't have the no trolling rule in place I'd recommend against bombarding the IRS with fraud reports for video game gifts. I'd also point out Phil sometimes lies about gifts in the first place when the "gifted" item is something he just purchased himself but doesn't want to own up to buying because he knows he'll be rightly criticized for wasting money when he's simultaneously begging for help with his bills he's apparently forced to pay every three days instead of once a month.
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If anything, he'd have to pay his tax guy for audit purposes, unless he paid for that upfront. Which, lets be honest he probably paid bare minimum.
 
Is this badbunny girl stealing any of his viewers? I watched a bit of her and she is surprisingly similar to DSP.
 
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