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Great comment I saw when DSP was claiming that: during his rough teenage years playing Street Fighter, taught him how to man up and not be "sensitive ninny" and complains about how society has degraded to a bunch of cowards.


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I think regarding the "gift" stuff, Phil just doesn't report any of that period. Presumably, someone gives him a code, he redeems said code and that's the end of it. There's no business expense to mark because Phil isn't spending any money. The closest comparison I can think of is if you go for a business lunch with a client, and the client pays for it. You can't use it as a write off because you didn't spend any money on it, even though your business benefited from it. I guess the IRS could technically open an investigation if they believed Phil wasn't reporting a business gift, but it seems like such a small issue to bother with, and I think DSP could just say it was a game he also played outside of the stream so it was a gift in the traditional sense since he didn't just use it for work.

I have a feeling DSP just throws around tax phrases like he does anything else he doesn't actually understand. It sounds like everything is handled by an accountant, so I wouldn't be surprised if Phil is assuming he's getting more write offs than he actually is. In reality, he might just be smugly dropping off a pile of receipts his account just sweeps into the trash because they are non deductible items and no matter how many times he tries to explain it to Phil, it never sinks in. I think the extent of Phil's tax knowledge is he knows PayPal and Twitch income has to be reported because it is actively tracked and they both send you relevant forms letting you know this (1099's I think?)

Either way, I don't think it is a big scandal, and even if we didn't have the no trolling rule in place I'd recommend against bombarding the IRS with fraud reports for video game gifts. I'd also point out Phil sometimes lies about gifts in the first place when the "gifted" item is something he just purchased himself but doesn't want to own up to buying because he knows he'll be rightly criticized for wasting money when he's simultaneously begging for help with his bills he's apparently forced to pay every three days instead of once a month.
The thing is this 'just send me the game-code in an e-mail' shit (so I don't have to report it as income and pretend it's under the table ;) ) doesn't fly with the IRS. That's still income going through his 'business', i.e. viewer donations, and he is required to report the 'fair market value' of that income.

Also, like usual, he's talking out his ass about this '$10,000 cap on """gifts""" you can receive before you have to pay taxes on it'. That's just more nonsense from this blustering buffoon. This explains pretty well the process of receiving, and giving, 'gifts' as it pertains to paying taxes on them.

There's definitely not some loophole that allows tax-free property transfers to his business to happen. If he's actually claiming things people are sending him for his 'business' are """gifts""" that he needn't report as income unless it reaches some '$10,000 yearly cap' that he imagined, then he's an even bigger moron than if this was just random nonsense he was spouting to sound like a serious adult businessman to his flock of speds. If you're planning on committing tax-fraud don't publicly ramble about the ways you are doing it, especially directly after you had a $110K+ year and weren't able to pay your income tax liability on it.
 
Phil is finally aiming, but was for some reason doing melee (MAYLAY) attack from far away, because "PS4 controller is oversensitive", he obviously, lost to the opponent's automachinegun, while someone mentioning Khet in stream chat


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Great, now Phil is attracting religious preachers in his chat..........he surely attracts all kinda weird peoples in the chat based on the chat's response


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They'd like to have it, but it's ok to leave it blank if you don't know it. I'm not going to file one of those things because I did some work for the IRS Criminal Investigation unit and yeah, they take all that shit super seriously and follow it up.
I'd bet good money Phil has been reported to the IRS more then once. This sudden thirst for gifts is a new spin on things and worth exploring but something being "off" about Phil's taxes comes up now and again. I think the SOK even discussed this when Phil let slip some of the things he writes off. At least 2 people had to be autistic enough to send something to the IRS in the past decade and I doubt they were thorough, well written reports.
 
DSP is gout! Also him not acknowledging Badbunny- get used to it ! He never talks to other streamers in his chat.
Hopfully she got a taste of the real DSP experience and hangs around long enough to see why people detract.

That's all I can say really.
 
I'd bet good money Phil has been reported to the IRS more then once. This sudden thirst for gifts is a new spin on things and worth exploring but something being "off" about Phil's taxes comes up now and again. I think the SOK even discussed this when Phil let slip some of the things he writes off. At least 2 people had to be autistic enough to send something to the IRS in the past decade and I doubt they were thorough, well written reports.
True. Honestly, I would pay good money to get one of his tax returns, just to show the world. After taunting Dave with it. Hrm. I need to see a guy about a favor
 
True. Honestly, I would pay good money to get one of his tax returns, just to show the world. After taunting Dave with it. Hrm. I need to see a guy about a favor
Dsp is fucking fucked tbh. Good luck if you can fucking get this cunt once and for fucking all. Because DSP is long overdue some motherfucking karma. You fucking get what I am saying brother? Fucksnaps.
 
They'd like to have it, but it's ok to leave it blank if you don't know it. I'm not going to file one of those things because I did some work for the IRS Criminal Investigation unit and yeah, they take all that shit super seriously and follow it up.
This is the kind of gay ops I support, tbh. But, I’m petty.
 
The thing is this 'just send me the game-code in an e-mail' shit (so I don't have to report it as income and pretend it's under the table ;) ) doesn't fly with the IRS. That's still income going through his 'business', i.e. viewer donations, and he is required to report the 'fair market value' of that income.

Wouldn't they have to prove Phil was specifically using it for business? I was always under the impression if something is used outside of your business, you can't claim it. For example, a streamer wouldn't be able to claim a new computer as a business expense if they also used it outside of streaming for personal stuff.

It does become murkier with Phil because I can't think of the last game he streamed that he played outside of Twitch, I just don't know how the IRS would reasonably prove something like that, or how you'd really report that as fraud. It's not like Phil is drowning in gifted games, I was always under the impression he preorders most of his stuff (sometimes twice) and only really gets gifts when he refuses to play a game people want him to play. I know the IRS can be hard asses, but I can't imagine they'd launch a full investigation on Phil not reporting a possible $200 or something in business income, especially if he's reporting the bulk of his income, which is likely still around 100k. Then again, this is Phil, so if he was under investigation I know he'd find a way to shoot himself on the foot and confess to doing something way shadier because he's his own worst enemy.

I'd compare it to fellow online cow Onision, who did get in serious trouble because he straight up tried to write off everything in his life, like his entire house because he makes vlogs in it. I am by no means trying to defend Phil or anything, I just think we have plenty of examples of him legitimately scamming people that we don't need to go digging for more. I mean, it hasn't even been a month since the "emergency tax fundraiser" that just so happened to totally naturally occur around the same time Phil took a vacation and got married.
 
Wouldn't they have to prove Phil was specifically using it for business? I was always under the impression if something is used outside of your business, you can't claim it. For example, a streamer wouldn't be able to claim a new computer as a business expense if they also used it outside of streaming for personal stuff.
You'll generally get away with it unless it's pretty egregious. Every business is different, so for example if it looks like the equipment and supplies he's purchasing are probably being used to generate income the IRS isn't going to have someone engage in surveillance to see if he ever pulls up Pornhub on his laptop while sitting in his office.
 
Wouldn't they have to prove Phil was specifically using it for business? I was always under the impression if something is used outside of your business, you can't claim it. For example, a streamer wouldn't be able to claim a new computer as a business expense if they also used it outside of streaming for personal stuff.

It does become murkier with Phil because I can't think of the last game he streamed that he played outside of Twitch, I just don't know how the IRS would reasonably prove something like that, or how you'd really report that as fraud. It's not like Phil is drowning in gifted games, I was always under the impression he preorders most of his stuff (sometimes twice) and only really gets gifts when he refuses to play a game people want him to play. I know the IRS can be hard asses, but I can't imagine they'd launch a full investigation on Phil not reporting a possible $200 or something in business income, especially if he's reporting the bulk of his income, which is likely still around 100k. Then again, this is Phil, so if he was under investigation I know he'd find a way to shoot himself on the foot and confess to doing something way shadier because he's his own worst enemy.

I'd compare it to fellow online cow Onision, who did get in serious trouble because he straight up tried to write off everything in his life, like his entire house because he makes vlogs in it. I am by no means trying to defend Phil or anything, I just think we have plenty of examples of him legitimately scamming people that we don't need to go digging for more. I mean, it hasn't even been a month since the "emergency tax fundraiser" that just so happened to totally naturally occur around the same time Phil took a vacation and got married.
It's not that I think anything would come of it, it's that he's completely talking out his ass.

Any sort of property donation he's receiving to his business has what's termed a 'fair market value' at the time he receives it and it's his obligation to record and report these property donations as income. It doesn't matter if it's a computer, a code to the ownership of the digital purchase of a game, or a horse, at the moment of transfer to him whatever it's 'fair market value' was is income he has received. Basically, if the giver didn't claim it as a 'gift' on their own taxes, it's income. I'm just pointing out that he's wrong. For example I highly doubt the YouTuber idubbbz is reporting all the shit he gets mailed for his 'Bad Unboxing' videos as income but i doubt the IRS would care. . .and now I'm laughing thinking about an IRS agent trying to determine the 'fair market value' of a moldy bagel, 2 plastic cups, and some duct tape during an audit.

The only workaround I could see is if someone let him borrow the game by letting him make a sub-account of their accout on his PS4 and he downloaded and played the game from their account so that he never actually owned the game or was given the ownership rights to a digital copy of it, but considering he can't fucking figure out how to do gamesharing with his own wife living in the same cramped condo I doubt he could ever figure this out.
 
DSP #ThotAudit saga when.

You know it's coming unless his accountant at H&R Block just looks at his shitheap of a receipt list and hits the 'standard deduction' button on whatever fucking software they use.

My one busy season as a tax accountant [its literally hell do not recommend] tells me that the default is 99% of the time the way to go, and if you own a real self employed business you hire a proper fucking CPA because shit gets complicated fast.

Also on the hiring a CPA front, Phil's bill is about what I'd expect for someone of his nature. A private CPA charges lawyer-tier rates to handle your shit, because time is money and they'll pull every trick in the book to get you a 100% accurate form that maximizes your return and can't bite you in the ass.

My billable hourly rate as the most junior data entry of accountants was still $80/hr. And even a simple business return takes around 4-5 hours to make it through the process of increasingly expensive oversight review.
 
Wouldn't they have to prove Phil was specifically using it for business? I was always under the impression if something is used outside of your business, you can't claim it. For example, a streamer wouldn't be able to claim a new computer as a business expense if they also used it outside of streaming for personal stuff.

It does become murkier with Phil because I can't think of the last game he streamed that he played outside of Twitch, I just don't know how the IRS would reasonably prove something like that, or how you'd really report that as fraud.
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Don't think it would be terribly hard to prove based off of D$P repeatedly stating on stream that he doesn't play ANY games outside of his streams aside from a few mobile games. Claiming that he literally doesn't have a single second of free time to play any video games off the clock due to his busy, busy life.
 
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The thing I don't understand about tax write offs is

  1. Phil buys game for $60.
  2. Kat wants to play game but can't because its a business game so buys an additional copy for $60
  3. Phil writes off the $60 for business game and decreased taxes by a couple bucks
  4. In the big picture Phil spends $120 to save a couple bucks

Same thing could be said about the two internet lines or Kat's PS4 Pro. I just don't see how this makes financial sense.
 
The thing I don't understand about tax write offs is

  1. Phil buys game for $60.
  2. Kat wants to play game but can't because its a business game so buys an additional copy for $60
  3. Phil writes off the $60 for business game and decreased taxes by a couple bucks
  4. In the big picture Phil spends $120 to save a couple bucks
Same thing could be said about the two internet lines or Kat's PS4 Pro. I just don't see how this makes financial sense.
Maybe if you had dsps business degree and severe brain damage, it'd make sense
 
I love how last night Phil told his viewers he wants a cat over a dog because it won't destroy everything. Cats are curious animals, they explore every nook, cranny, and item in your house when you introduce them into your life. Even when my cats were kittens they broke shit. I hope he never gets any sort of animal, it sounded like his plan is to lock it in a room while he "works". Any cat is not going to be down with being locked in a single room forever, it's gonna shit up that room, and Phil is gonna toss it outside and act like it's stray.
 
I love how last night Phil told his viewers he wants a cat over a dog because it won't destroy everything. Cats are curious animals, they explore every nook, cranny, and item in your house when you introduce them into your life. Even when my cats were kittens they broke shit. I hope he never gets any sort of animal, it sounded like his plan is to lock it in a room while he "works". Any cat is not going to be down with being locked in a single room forever, it's gonna shit up that room, and Phil is gonna toss it outside and act like it's stray.
he's going to "get his hair cut" one day and the cat will have somehow ran away
then some days later people will hear it meowing over the stream, and phil will have the fakest "surprised" reaction
 
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