Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[RodgerDodger]

They could be trying to bleed Vic dry, I know the average going rate at BHBH is $400 an hour.

I thought Casey’s hourly rate was actually higher than BHBH’s? Because he’s a big city Super Lawyer, and not from out in the sticks like Ty Beard.

 

[kcbbq]

I thought Casey’s hourly rate was actually higher than BHBH’s? Because he’s a big city Super Lawyer, and not from out in the sticks like Ty Beard.

This is why you want Clark Kent Lawyer and not Super Lawyer. Diligent, unassuming, can take off his glasses if he needs to because no one expects anything.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

To me, I feel that Erick is taking his ball home.
Even though Vic could win the case, no one would get deposed.
No one goes on record.
In some ways, this would put everything back to square one and it covers the asses of the rest of those in the civil conspiracy.
That is genuinely upsetting.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

I swear if MoRon end up defaulting because they didn't even answer it's going to be both simultaneously hilarious and disappointing. They pose themselves to be some hardassed toughguy in a movie and right before the showdown between them and the protagonist they get hit by a train from nowhere.

Literally Casey right now:

A default only matters if one of the parties actually makes a motion based on it. A party can also request that the clerk note a default in the record so that a notice gets put on the docket. Then after a motion on it, it may become an actual default judgment.

This came up in Romine v. Stanton, too. Romine (pro se) missed a deadline, Sterling's lawyer jumped on it the next morning filing to dismiss, and the judge basically went "You're using cool lawyer tricks on a pro se litigant? Not in my court!"

I'm interested to see what happens when a cool, big city, grown-up-pants lawyer does it.

 

[Slab Bulkhead]

To me, I feel that Erick is taking his ball home.
Even though Vic could win the case, no one would get deposed.
No one goes on record.
In some ways, this would put everything back to square one and it covers the asses of the rest of those in the civil conspiracy.
That is genuinely upsetting.

Thing is unless this causes Funimation and Marchi to default as well, then MoRon would still be required to be deposed as they're key witnesses to the other two defendants and acted as agents of Funimation.

 

[Zilortha]

To me, I feel that Erick is taking his ball home.
Even though Vic could win the case, no one would get deposed.
No one goes on record.
In some ways, this would put everything back to square one and it covers the asses of the rest of those in the civil conspiracy.
That is genuinely upsetting.

I'm no lawyer, so I might be wrong here but I don't think that's how it works.
I'm pretty sure they'd still have to give depositions.

 

[Empty Donation Box]

NodeJS and Puppetteer, output as a csv file then used google docs to convert it into a pdf as that seemed a bit neater.

I had also hoped to include piping the tweets straight to archive.fo but it doesn't seem to like receiving more than about 20 requests in quick succession.

I think I should be able to make the output a little nicer by splitting some of the details (like the user name and like counts etc. out of the content box - I'll look at doing that then may share the code.

I'd skip the pdf and keep the output as CSV. With a csv people can hide columns that aren't relevant to what they're doing. Also try getting the engagement into it's own column.

 

[Yuusha-sama]

Maybe the Twitter DM's are so devastating that they get a harsher judgment in a normal trial.( Is that possible?)
Maybe they hope the default judgement isn't that harsh in comparison.

 

[FreeHugsCheap]

My money is on Casey being late due to being incredibly thorough trying to win any ground for his exceptional clients. We've no evidence as far as I have seen that he's incompetent, even if he is a bit sleazy in his tactics but hey that's his job. Chances are Casey is well aware of just how fucked his clients are and he's putting in every billable hour he can to get some level of defense for this shit show he has acquired in his new clients. The fact it makes him more money probably helps let's be honest.

We are going to see a filing late as shit tonight I'd wager, and I'd further bet it's another delay tactic to try and buy more time.

 

[wickedlilium]

My money is on Casey being late due to being incredibly thorough trying to win any ground for his exceptional clients. We've no evidence as far as I have seen that he's incompetent, even if he is a bit sleazy in his tactics but hey that's his job. Chances are Casey is well aware of just how fucked his clients are and he's putting in every billable hour he can to get some level of defense for this shit show he has acquired in his new clients. The fact it makes him more money probably helps let's be honest.

We are going to see a filing late as shit tonight I'd wager, and I'd further bet it's another delay tactic to try and buy more time.

I wouldn't be surprised if he after the case where he sue'd using the wrong legal procedure for copyright with his client he was almost about to do the same thing and caught it last minute making him go over his deadline again, that or the fact his quash was pointed out to be faulted lead him to sweat a little to much and overthought how to avoid it.

 

[Kosher Salt]

Thing is unless this causes Funimation and Marchi to default as well, then MoRon would still be required to be deposed as they're key witnesses to the other two defendants and acted as agents of Funimation.

MoRon defaulting wouldn't cause the other defendants to default. They can still file their own responses on time.

What it would mean is that any judgement against MoRon could be collected immediately, and it would lower the final judgement against the others. The theories of civil conspiracy and vicarious liability, though, would still put FUNimation on the hook for any judgement in the end, so collecting from MoRon might not be worth the trouble unless those theories are ultimately defeated.

 

[Monkey Prick]

I thought Casey’s hourly rate was actually higher than BHBH’s? Because he’s a big city Super Lawyer, and not from out in the sticks like Ty Beard.

While Casey's rate is probably higher than Ty's that doesn't factor in the 3 other people all working on Vic's case.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Fellow Kiwis,
In four short days, one of our own embarks on a mission to document the proceedings of Puerto Rico Comic Con.
Lend them your support here:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/5-17-19-5-19-19-vic-puerto-rico-comic-con.55527/

The thread will be the Command Center for this op and will be used to store instances of not only fan interactions of one Victor Mignogna, but also reports from the field. @JosephTX will update the thread should anything substantial occur.

The cows involved in KickVic have shown themselves to be Autistic Beyond All Reason.
They have been shown to be a danger to themselves and others through vandalism and homosexual operations of the most pathetic of order.
May the record of their stupidity and potential crimes be archived for futures Kiwis, if not for humanity itself.

 

[some_crazy]

While Casey's rate is probably higher than Ty's that doesn't factor in the 3 other people all working on Vic's case.

Whilst it's true that Vic is paying for multiple lawyers that doesn't necessarily make it more expensive.

Vic isn't paying for all of them all the time - he's only paying for the time they spend doing work for him - which will primarily only be the time they can usefully spend working for him - if there isn't enough stuff to do they'll switch to working on someone else's case or more generally something else and they won't bill Vic for it.

Having a team can result in some extra cost as they spend time conferring/updating each other/discussing things and that time will likely be billable.

However there are potential efficiency games from a team - they may give good advice to each other resulting in saving time/doing things more efficiently.

 

[GRB86]

My money is on Casey being late due to being incredibly thorough trying to win any ground for his exceptional clients. We've no evidence as far as I have seen that he's incompetent, even if he is a bit sleazy in his tactics but hey that's his job. Chances are Casey is well aware of just how fucked his clients are and he's putting in every billable hour he can to get some level of defense for this shit show he has acquired in his new clients. The fact it makes him more money probably helps let's be honest.

We are going to see a filing late as shit tonight I'd wager, and I'd further bet it's another delay tactic to try and buy more time.

Except to blow his attempt at the end run, 6 days no answer, in writing? councilor, just what the F were you doing for 6 days and now want me to support your motion in my court? What, you answered about the depo concerning the Plaintiff, which is not your client, but just when will you set the date for YOUR Clients? 6 days, no response? A sleazy attorney knows there is a game to be played, just putting ones fingers in ones ears, closing ones eyes and saying out loud, "I'm not seeing it I'm not seeing it" is not a good move. NAhhh this guy took the case and then saw the tidewave and said Holy Crap....

 

[Tyler_Rex]

I think Nick suspects that they fired superlawyer for failing to outright prevent their deposition. He wouldn't need to DM Brianna Beard if all he thought was up with this was that they had failed to respond on time. BHBH would know if Casey was no longer representing Moronica however.

 

[Mashallah]

Shane is one of those Boomer infidels who unironically posts Minions. I am not surprised.

https://twitter.com/shane_holmberg/status/1127951231480102912?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

[RodgerDodger]

My money is on Casey being late due to being incredibly thorough trying to win any ground for his exceptional clients. We've no evidence as far as I have seen that he's incompetent, even if he is a bit sleazy in his tactics but hey that's his job. Chances are Casey is well aware of just how fucked his clients are and he's putting in every billable hour he can to get some level of defense for this shit show he has acquired in his new clients. The fact it makes him more money probably helps let's be honest.

We are going to see a filing late as shit tonight I'd wager, and I'd further bet it's another delay tactic to try and buy more time.

I wouldn't be surprised if he after the case where he sue'd using the wrong legal procedure for copyright with his client he was almost about to do the same thing and caught it last minute making him go over his deadline again, that or the fact his quash was pointed out to be faulted lead him to sweat a little to much and overthought how to avoid it.

It doesn’t pass the smell test. If he is trying to squeeze out more time itis far far better to simply ask for it. File a motion for extension before the deadline. Claim that due to the volume of documentation involved he needs a little more time. All he has to do is point out the 20lb box o Ron’s tweets. Another week or two. It would have been unopposed by BHBH, as it would not be unreasonable, and it would line MoRonica up with the deadlines of the other defendants. And everybody looks like good competent reasonable lawyers solving problems. Blowing the deadline pisses off the court. There is no net benefit there.

I’m really wondering if Casey is still representing MoRonica? After last weeks stunt that not only failed to get them out of deposition, but puts them on the stand in front of the judge in 2 short weeks there may have been some temper tantrums. And somebody may have been fired or quit.

 

[FreeHugsCheap]

It doesn’t pass the smell test. If he is trying to squeeze out more time itis far far better to simply ask for it. File a motion for extension before the deadline. Claim that due to the volume of documentation involved he needs a little more time. All he has to do is point out the 20lb box o Ron’s tweets. Another week or two. It would have been unopposed by BHBH, as it would not be unreasonable, and it would line MoRonica up with the deadlines of the other defendants. And everybody looks like good competent reasonable lawyers solving problems. Blowing the deadline pisses off the court. There is no net benefit there.

I’m really wondering if Casey is still representing MoRonica? After last weeks stunt that not only failed to get them out of deposition, but puts them on the stand in front of the judge in 2 short weeks there may have been some temper tantrums. And somebody may have been fired or quit.

I think Nick suspects that they fired superlawyer for failing to outright prevent their deposition. He wouldn't need to DM Brianna Beard if all he thought was up with this was that they had failed to respond on time. BHBH would know if Casey was no longer representing Moronica however.

I'll be honest, after reading Dodger's and Rex's posts in the thread and thinking on this a bit more I'm beginning to lean to this answer as well. It seems crazy to drop a lawyer at the zero hour but MoRon haven't exactly shown themselves to be the most reasonable or intelligent people.

I guess we just have to wait till we get confirmation from our favorite drunken blackface lawyer.

 

[Kosher Salt]

I think Nick suspects that they fired superlawyer for failing to outright prevent their deposition. He wouldn't need to DM Brianna Beard if all he thought was up with this was that they had failed to respond on time. BHBH would know if Casey was no longer representing Moronica however.

We know that Nick has been in contact with both Vic and Ty, though. If he was trying to figure out whether there had been a change of representation by the defendants, surely it'd make more sense to ask one of them.

I'm going to hazard a guess that this is about the Beard daughter interview thing that Nick has teased a couple of times. He wants to get them on his show.