Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[eternal dog mongler]

(For those with more experience or medical knowledge - am I right in guessing deconditioning is a pretty big deal even in young 20-somethings? I know in elderly people even a couple of weeks in bed can be the beginning of the end, it's wild to see such young people almost keen for that.)

Yeah if you can manage to get your hands on Inactivity: Physiological Effects it's kinda :thunk:

Mainly because enforced prolonged bed rest in healthy subjects (based on the studies NASA was doing) steals their spoons. Chronic fatigue, orthostatic syncope, lack of appetite, joint pain...the exact symptoms spoonies complain about. Probably not a good idea for spoonies to play sick little bedbound princess if they're trying to actually get better.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

Morgan McCaster, still alive. Still Munchie.

 

[Frazzle]

It's very rare for opiate addicts to actually abuse fentanyl as their drug of choice. Fentanyl patches were actually prescribed to people with a history of opiate addiction because it's difficult to ever get a rush out of them. It was generally assumed that the worst an addict might do was to wear more patches than they were prescribed or replace them sooner than they were supposed to. Neither of which is really that risky for someone who already has a pretty heavy opiate tolerance.

Of course what happened was that addicts would try to seek out the rush by switching up the route of administration, usually by eating the patches. The GI tract can absorb fentanyl from a patch about 30x faster compared to wearing one on your skin and patches could have up to three days worth of fentanyl in them so that never ended quite well.

A guy in my local area would freeze the patches and then suck on them like they were ice cubes or some shit. No idea if it worked or got him what he wanted but I thought it was very innovative in terms of drug addict thinking at least.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Little late with this reply, sorry.

I've seen kernels of this reaction in people with genuine chronic illness. It often starts as a frustration that they never get treatment other than "have you tried exercising?". So it's folks who genuinely have tried that, but are still eg. depressed and would like to try SSRIs. Similarly for people with joint problems who want to point out that exercise doesn't completely 'cure' them, even if it does help.

But then like you say, you get into the realm of the chronic illness warriors and that message seems to get completely twisted into ignoring all suggestions of exercise, PT, anything that might stop them deconditioning.

(For those with more experience or medical knowledge - am I right in guessing deconditioning is a pretty big deal even in young 20-somethings? I know in elderly people even a couple of weeks in bed can be the beginning of the end, it's wild to see such young people almost keen for that.)

Read a forum for women who have been prescribed bed rest for premature labor in pregnancy. It only takes a few days before getting out of bed at all starts to tire you out. The joint pain is a constant problem, even if they are getting PT visits to try to mitigate it. Blood clots are a big concern. Breathing problems. The good news is, even a very modest amount of activity can prevent this, so a lot of doctors put women on "low activity" if at all possible, rather than total bed rest, now.

 

[600lbsAnorexic]

A guy in my local area would freeze the patches and then suck on them like they were ice cubes or some shit. No idea if it worked or got him what he wanted but I thought it was very innovative in terms of drug addict thinking at least.

Druggies searching for a high could be the most creative and innovative people you can ever meet.

Ever heard of Jenkem or Krokodil? Yeah, that's when shit get's wild.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

I never paid much attention to Jan before, but I went and watched one of her “prerecorded” vlogs today. Holee Shit. She jumps around. Her edits are insane. And her eyes and personality. Just dead, you’re right. I guess she really wouldn’t have a following at all if it weren’t for Jaquie and her “spoonie” claims. She climbs the stairs and walks around like it is nothing. What is her claimed diagnosis that needs a fucking custom wheelchair?

Janjan's just being strong for us you guize, lots of pain, can't make the bed.

Bonus: Blair Witch Project snot shot

Morgan McCaster, still alive. Still Munchie.

I thought Morgan had been looking much healthier recently since she got her weed prescription. Oh well, back on the wagon. When I saw that bloodstain picture first I thought she was doing some kind of feminist period protest. Oopsy.

Read a forum for women who have been prescribed bed rest for premature labor in pregnancy. It only takes a few days before getting out of bed at all starts to tire you out. The joint pain is a constant problem, even if they are getting PT visits to try to mitigate it. Blood clots are a big concern. Breathing problems. The good news is, even a very modest amount of activity can prevent this, so a lot of doctors put women on "low activity" if at all possible, rather than total bed rest, now.

I think there is definitely a deadly cycle aspect about this, it's sad really. Constant pain can be exhausting but the good news is that regular exercise makes you more energetic.

 

[BentCopper]

This girl has absolutely gone off the deep end. She's SWFing so hard. From what I can gather from Patreon, Judd told her (or her ball-less husband) to get lost and she pitched a fit because MUH GRIEF. She's high as fuck all the time. If she's not going to give us video of munchie queen Jaq's funeral, she needs to take her opiates and fuck off.

What was the contents of the Patreon post that hinted that Judd had told them to get lost?

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

What was the contents of the Patreon post that hinted that Judd had told them to get lost?

If this is the nice spin she's putting on it I imagine the real situation was "stop rifling through my dead wife's shit looking for prizes and get the fuck out of my house."

 

[ISmellBS]

Yeah if you can manage to get your hands on Inactivity: Physiological Effects it's kinda :thunk:

Mainly because enforced prolonged bed rest in healthy subjects (based on the studies NASA was doing) steals their spoons. Chronic fatigue, orthostatic syncope, lack of appetite, joint pain...the exact symptoms spoonies complain about. Probably not a good idea for spoonies to play sick little bedbound princess if they're trying to actually get better.

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If this is the nice spin she's putting on it I imagine the real situation was "stop rifling through my dead wife's shit looking for prizes and get the fuck out of my house."

Swallow it Jaq! Swallow it good!

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Well this was on Jan's google doc, per IF posters (gone now but their thread is here)

Don't. Touch. The poop. We just observe and report. We don't troll.
Jan will do fucked up shit for our entertainment all on her own.

EDIT: archive of IF post because mods deleted it

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

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Well this was on Jan's google doc, per IF posters (gone now but their thread is here)

Don't. Touch. The poop. We just observe and report. We don't troll.
Jan will do fucked up shit for our entertainment all on her own.

I don’t even get the supposed joke but the pearl clutching about it in the IF thread is amusing.

(I do understand it’s a BJ joke, just not why it might be funny other than lowest level trolling)

 

[ISmellBS]

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Well this was on Jan's google doc, per IF posters (gone now but their thread is here)

Don't. Touch. The poop. We just observe and report. We don't troll.
Jan will do fucked up shit for our entertainment all on her own.

When at the freak show, be a freak. My friends call me Jugg, Mito Chondria, Somani Zofran, and Benny Drille.
My only regret is no more dirty linens to sniff at Tampa General.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

other than lowest level trolling

That is your answer.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

How funny would it be if her secret was that she's not sick Too optimistic but Janjan has now reached the final level of munching - medical marijuana. No wonder she always looks and sounds high all the time, well at least it's not as bad as being constantly binned for opiates.

 

[uwotm8?]

Am I wrong or is the fat and proud genderspecial founder of the reddit sh00ping her pics? I guess we aren't as fat and proud as we thought we were. Also, the grandest of gestures would be adding her to the reddit conversation. Can the gods of divine karma and irony make that happen?

 

[Munchie_Minder]

How funny would it be if her secret was that she's not sick Too optimistic but Janjan has now reached the final level of munching - medical marijuana. No wonder she always looks and sounds high all the time, well at least it's not as bad as being constantly binned for opiates.

Welp, that solves the question of why does she always look and sound high. I want to know why all these munchies who claim EDS have long, unbroken nails. Both her and Jaq Jaq have had long, unridged nails. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a patient with HEDS have smooth nails.

 

[Sooper Speshul Southerner]

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If this is the nice spin she's putting on it I imagine the real situation was "stop rifling through my dead wife's shit looking for prizes and get the fuck out of my house."

There was also another one where Jan was bitching about how grief is different for everyone and she was being forced to move through hers too fast (or something to that effect). That's why she started the daily grief vlogs according to her. Pretty sure it was on Patreon...maybe she deleted? I think they posted it over on IF too. I'd find the screenshot but I'm honestly too lazy right now

 

[AT 903]

There was also another one where Jan was bitching about how grief is different for everyone and she was being forced to move through hers too fast (or something to that effect). That's why she started the daily grief vlogs according to her. Pretty sure it was on Patreon...maybe she deleted? I think they posted it over on IF too. I'd find the screenshot but I'm honestly too lazy right now

 

[Pho Real]

I don’t doubt it. She doesn’t bat an eye about lying, sh00ping’s par for the course. Diagnosing herself with EDS, POTS, and now heart failure was just the beginning. FYI, it’s not EDS or heart failure if your joints ache and you have hypertension simply from being a fatty. But muh eating disorder!!

In other note, did anyone see when she was whining about not being able to take a bath, because no one was there to help her?? No wonder she created that special snowflake Reddit, she’s trying to cover her own munchie behavior.

Edited: Nina Jean

 

[Munchie_Minder]

I don’t doubt it. She doesn’t bat an eye about lying, sh00ping’s par for the course. Diagnosing herself with EDS, POTS, and now heart failure was just the beginning. FYI, it’s not EDS or heart failure if your joints ache and you have hypertension simply from being a fatty. But muh eating disorder!!

In other note, did anyone see when she was whining about not being able to take a bath, because no one was there to help her?? No wonder she created that special snowflake Reddit, she’s trying to cover her own munchie behavior.

Can you clue me into who you’re referring to?