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Huh. JY has already deleted that Tweet. It's been said, but the only public place he will be allowed such uncensored sperging is right here at the Farms. Honestly, more people read his Twitter from here anyway including him.
The tweet is still up for me, the response is gone however.

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Creeping on a Cimorelli fan. Ewww!

More proof that he won't stop himself and can't stop by himself. I can only say that I hope his mom's Strata 55+ HOA is using backchannels to evict him. If there's a home health care need for legit residents there, that can be provided through legit agencies. At this point, he's a massive PITA and beyond to TOL, Langley Township because he's a threat to children, and has once again just been made clear, that threat won't go away unless he does.
 
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More proof that he won't stop himself and can't stop by himself. I can only say that I hope his mom's Strata 55+ HOA is using backchannels to evict him. If there's a home health care need for legit residents there, that can be provided through legit agencies. At this point, he's a massive PITA and beyond to TOL, Langley Township because he's a threat to children, and has once again just been made clear, that threat won't go away unless he does.


Speaking of children, maybe him being stuck in a 55+ neighborhood is the safer option at the moment.
 
I always thought it was weird that anyone would let this weird fuck near their kids and especially a band with a ton of followers. A quick stroll down FB memory lane and this grossness pops up.

I’m not sure if this is a brother or the dad but hey; they seem to share the same taste on teenager girls.

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More proof that he won't stop himself and can't stop by himself. I can only say that I hope his mom's Strata 55+ HOA is using backchannels to evict him. If there's a home health care need for legit residents there, that can be provided through legit agencies. At this point, he's a massive PITA and beyond to TOL, Langley Township because he's a threat to children, and has once again just been made clear, that threat won't go away unless he does.
If he is evicted and needs to go to a shelter Oger will have to make some hard choices. Would Oger support him in a woman's shelter or would the rare not this troon card be played.
 
Sorry for both the (once again) late response to being tagged, and also for the dump of tons of responses.

How would Oger incorrectly mentioning meeting JY at a function be libelous or damage-worthy in itself? Oger just said that at the meeting that she may have advised JY about the BCHRT at JY's request--unless he is asserting that Morgane is responsible for the reactions from the Economist, Spectator, Times of London, diverse nests of terves and conservatives, and the Farms. Does this MLM legal scheme that he's getting the lawyer from stipulate that the lawyer has to draft x number of dumb letters? Because, and I'm bugging @Cato again for his canada-specific take, this would not normally be seen as a potentially profitable venture by any lawyer I've ever met.

I know this will sound both obvious and tautological, but an element of the tort of defamation in Canada is that the impugned statement must be defamatory. More specifically, this means that it would lower the reputation of the plaintiff in the eyes of the ordinary person.

If all that is being disputed is the statement that Oger met JY in person, not the content of anything that was said between them, then yeah, this would obviously not constitute defamation.

Actually, ppl can get in trouble in Canada even if it is true if it's insensitive to feels. Oger a couple months back got handed a $55K award against the bible-beater Whatcott over his handing out flyers identifying Oger's birth name, calling him a "he" and a transvestite to boot, because that was seen as prohibited activity toward the protected class of "gender identity."

Sure, but the person you were responding to wrote "it's not libel if it's true," and Oger v Whatcott was about a contravention of the BC Human Rights Code. It had nothing to do with libel.

He’s trying to buddy up to the cops so he can use them as a weapon against anyone who criticizes him. He used to act like he was buddy-buddy with them until he found out they have an eye on him. He flaunts twitter jail like he’s a powerful dictator, imagine what he’d do if he thought the police had his back.

Which is hilarious because the average police officer doesn't hold particularly progressive views about gender identity, nor do they tend to like pedophiles very much.

LMAO how stupid is this bitch to give up her career because someone issued a complaint against her? Can we say once and for all that TERFs are U S E L E S S????? They deserve to get run over by men in dresses if this is how it's going to be. Pack it up, women, you're absolutely done because you're too spooked to stand up for yourself for a single second. Imagine having this little of a spine. "I'm devastated, but no one can take away my phD!!!!!!!!!" Yeah, unless someone spends 20 minutes writing to your university's dissertation committee, I bet. This is as pathetic as anything I've ever seen on this website.

Yeah, for someone with a PhD she's quite an imbecile.

Alright, When can we go nuclear on Jonathan on Twitter? Maybe posting every screenshot, archive link, ect... Tagging him and as many trans activists as possible.

I know everyone loves to shit on people for trying to coordinate ops here, or for speaking of KF in terms of some collective "we," and it's totally justified of them to do so. But I'll add that I think it's equally pathetic to seek permission from people here to do whatever dumbass Internet fuckery you want to do off-site. Do whatever you want on your own, just don't expect asspats or help from anyone here.

Considering how fucked Canada is, would this consitute as Libel or something that could get JY in trouble if Alexis were to see it? No doubt she has receipts proving he's full of shit.

It might. The elements of defamation in Canada are that the impugned statements:

i) Were defamatory
ii) Made reference to the plaintiff
iii) Were published or disseminated

The second and third elements are obviously met, and the standard for the first element (as I mentioned above) is that it would lower the reputation of the plaintiff in the eyes of an ordinary person. Statements about the person acting like a creep are sort of subjective, so it's a grey area as to whether it would qualify, but there are Canadian cases where calling someone "stupid" or "ugly" were found to be defamatory.

It wouldn't be defamatory but WOULD be theoretically libel if indeed false

Libel is a form of defamation, so anything that would constitute libel would also necessarily be defamatory.
 
If he is evicted and needs to go to a shelter Oger will have to make some hard choices. Would Oger support him in a woman's shelter or would the rare not this troon card be played.

VRR is the only shelter not accepting trans, so if JY did get kicked, he'd probably go there saying Null and Alexis double-teamed him to bait Oger. It's still a position Oger can get out of by saying he belongs as a woman, but can't stay because of predatory behavior around girls and young women,

I always thought it was weird that anyone would let this weird fuck near their kids and especially a band with a ton of followers. A quick stroll down FB memory lane and this grossness pops up.

I’m not sure if this is a brother or the dad but hey; they seem to share the same taste on teenager girls.

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Mike Cimorelli is the brother. He's been mentioned in this thread.

Speaking of children, maybe him being stuck in a 55+ neighborhood is the safer option at the moment.

Having his basic needs paid for just allows JY to perve more. He set up his Earth Day at a school, he's going to TOL for tampon needs for transkids, he's still afaik booked for that florida pageant with the preteen category next door. Without the luxury of free rent plus mommy, jy wouldn't be as easily able to do those things. JY really has no other support in Vancouver other than Miriam's living arrangement and her codependency, and without that, he is more likely to rapidly deteriorate to the point that authorities can officially intervene.
 
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there seems to a lot in his arena for trans toddlers kids youth and adults so why he wanted to start new is beyond me and if he wanted help in a non contact way(because hes aware of how people view him) he probably could
 
Morgane has updated the original blog post of 4/19/19 to reflect JY threatening Morgane with the legal letter. Also new are updates of conversations Morgane had with JY, including that Morgane shared fears with JY that the ballwaxing complaints could expose the trans community to contempt given JY's post history, and new info about JY calling Morgane to try to explain himself regarding The Screenshots.


This part is significantly revised in bold:

I am under the impression that Jessica Yaniv and I met in person once at a public event at The Cultch, a theatre in Vancouver where I performed in 2018. In a May 2019 letter to me from her lawyer she claimed we never met.
This also is possible. As a public figure, I meet many people and could not tell with certainty who I had that conversation with.

I did however speak with Jessica Yaniv over the phone when she called me to explain allegations about deeply-inappropriate tweets attributed to her which exist in screen shot format that she was alleged to have sent to young women and girls.
Yaniv brought up her human rights cases and her interest in standing up for transgender rights. She also expressed admiration for my work standing up for transgender persons against oppression.


I encourage transgender people to fight for our rights and to force difficult conversations out into the open. I have often encouraged any valid complaint being filed to get the difficult conversation started.

I told Jessica that I felt she would have a very difficult time with these cases and that although I support the right of all trans persons to access services free of discrimination her past history deeply undermined her intentions and exposed her and the transgender community to contempt. She claimed her statements were taken out of context and I encouraged her to publicly come clean about her past and how she has addressed her conduct to reassure everyone watching that there is no reason for concern.

To my knowledge this has never happened. Jessica Yaniv had not explained why she should be considered a safe person today in light of her past conduct that witnesses tell me was predatory.


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For comparison purposes, the first edition of Oger's post can be found in this post from April 20: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jonat...ows-it-jy-british-columbia.49790/post-4604020

Archive here: https://archive.li/l4EYA
 
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I told Jessica that I felt she would have a very difficult time with these cases and that although I support the right of all trans persons to access services free of discrimination her past history deeply undermined her intentions and exposed her and the transgender community to contempt
All I know about Morgane is what has been mentioned here and I've never even glanced at his thread. And even without knowing virtually anything about him his motives are so transparent. All that matters to him is the trans agenda, doing what's right is an afterthought, if that. He told John not to proceed with #waxmyballs because of the impact it would have on the image of the trans movement instead of telling him "discrimination-free services clearly DOES NOT apply to body parts you don't have".

He also told him to explain himself publicly instead of telling him that there is NO context in which those disgusting screenshots would be ok.

And the cherry on top is that he waited for over a year (the OG's of this thread can correct me if I got the timeline wrong) before he exposed him, painting himself as a hero in the process instead of just stating the facts and conveniently omitting his tacit support of John. If he really cared about anything other than the trans agenda he would have investigated the claims against John as soon as they were brought to his attention, he wouldn't have waited until the shit was about to hit the fan and Morgane himself was going to be covered in excrement as well.

Tl;dr: Fuck you too, Morgane. You're transparent as fuck and the only reason I can't say you're just as bad as Yaniv is because he's a literal pedophile. But you're scum too.
 
She claimed her statements were taken out of context and I encouraged her to publicly come clean about her past and how she has addressed her conduct to reassure everyone watching that there is no reason for concern.
So if JY had publicly apologised for the screencapped tweets, Oger would've carried merrily on supporting him?

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Evidently in Oger's troon paradise, when a pedo says sorry it makes them a trustworthy person again, and no-one should have a thing to worry about. Nice opportunism, though, dunking on Yaniv when his position is no longer tenable, in the hope that everyone will congratulate Oger on saving them from the horrid pedophile (and not those transphobic bitches, the terfs).

I wonder what Oger is hiding?
 
Yaniv celebrates WHO diagnostic change on Facebook.
But if transgender is no longer a 'disorder' does that mean that all the public money spent on 'treatments ' like hormones and SRS will be shut off?

"Fine, you are a woman. The insurance companies and public health services won't pay to install plastic tits and lop off your cock anymore because transgender is no longer a 'disorder '."
 
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