Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[mindlessobserver]

You drank the Shane cool-aid and then act shocked when you're told to stop being a spastic. Pretty sure the anime north stuff has been talked about at length was mostly all hearsay bs by the same little circle jerk or "I heard it from a friend's cousin's dog that Vic is a meany poo poo head to some con slave".

Its also been belaboured at length in this thread, and is even in the OP that the vast majority of our autistic scrolling through the claims of the tweeter tards early on in the drama came up with zero confirmation, and were usually based upon people hiding behind the shield anonymity and still saying that it was not them "personally" who saw the alleged incidents but that they "heard about it" from "other people". Who also remain just as anonymous as the individuals making the claim. Even worse, patient zero to this drama, Allison Cooke would retract EVERYTHING she said, and instead say exactly what we all expected. She didn't experience any of this personally. She just "heard about it" from "other people".

Which is why you are getting dumb rating @Noya. You are repeating stuff we already know, using tweets we have already seen, and statements we already know are lies because the people who said them have admitted as such. If you want to try and break the narrative of this thread (which is admittedly very pro-vic) you are going to have to do a better job of it and actually present something new.

 

[MildlyAmused]

What does shadowbanned mean? Not invited? Or invited but then hidden in a corner behind the bathrooms where noone will find you?

 

[Noya]

You drank the Shane cool-aid and then act shocked when you're told to stop being a spastic. Pretty sure the anime north stuff has been talked about at length was mostly all hearsay bs by the same little circle jerk or "I heard it from a friend's cousin's dog that Vic is a meany poo poo head to some con slave".

My bad, I thought it was a relevant tidbit to add to the thread.

What does shadowbanned mean? Not invited? Or invited but then hidden in a corner behind the bathrooms where noone will find you?

Banned, but not announced to the public basically. Usually it's due to misconduct between guest and staff that got reported, like what happened with Vic.

 

[Monkey Prick]

My bad, I thought it was a relevant tidbit to add to the thread.

You're about 4 months too late to start trying to make a narrative here, stick to shit posting about Onision. I hope whoever sent you over this way is compensating your for it and in your defense you've done better than the brony twat who spoke in half sentences.

 

[Cakeisjustok]

What does shadowbanned mean? Not invited? Or invited but then hidden in a corner behind the bathrooms where noone will find you?

It means blacklisted or on a list to never be invited.

 

[xyz741]

Banned, but not announced to the public basically. Usually it's due to misconduct between guest and staff that got reported, like what happened with Vic.

No, 9 times out of 10 it means "not invited". For the VAST majority of cons this will spare them the appearance of said guest who can get bookings elsewhere and isn't gonna waste their own time and money to show up where they're not wanted. The exception would be if they got a restraining order, and as far as I know, NO convention has done that with a guest. (the other POSSIBLE exception is if one guest had a restraining order or weird legal issue with another celeb, then the con would have to deal with making sure that's upheld, but again, it is REALLY rare for 'guests' to show up at cons where they weren't invited maliciously, not counting as companions for an invited guest, also if you show up at a con as a NON-guest, then staff doesn't have to put up with your shit)

 

[Monkey Prick]

Banned, but not announced to the public basically. Usually it's due to misconduct between guest and staff that got reported, like what happened with Vic.

Are you going to show proof at all or just continue to spout the same bs that PULL and twitter does? Change the tune already.

 

[MildlyAmused]

My bad, I thought it was a relevant tidbit to add to the thread.


Banned, but not announced to the public basically. Usually it's due to misconduct between guest and staff that got reported, like what happened with Vic.

I guess it's up to interpretation as to how someone feels they've been treated. I guess if the cons are staffed by people with tender feelings they would huff and puff about what a meany he was. This guy seems to have a pretty nice story to tell of Vic at Anime North 2010. Also says a staff member approached Vic even after there were to be no more autographs....to ask him if he could do just one more. Dont hear anything in the video about Vic freaking out on the staff member but rather calling the fan over and obliging despite looking worn out according to the guy. "For the Fans" after all

Anime North 2010 - The Vic Mignogna Story

My sister and I attended Anime North 2010 in hopes of getting her an autograph from her favorite anime voice actor, Vic Mignogna. Here's what happened.

www.youtube.com

 

[OldAmishRenegade]

The only one I know of for sure was Anime North, back in 2010. I used to work at it back then, and I remember hearing how rude he was to guest relations despite them meeting his demands.

So we're going from "a lot of conventions" to one. Ok.

When I google "Anime North Vic Mignogna" the first thing to pop up is this video from 2010 of a fan talking about how the staff cut off Vic's line and weren't letting people see him but Vic was kind enough to risk missing his flight to sign for this guy's sister.

Anime North 2010 - The Vic Mignogna Story

My sister and I attended Anime North 2010 in hopes of getting her an autograph from her favorite anime voice actor, Vic Mignogna. Here's what happened.

www.youtube.com

This was in the comments. Could be why the staff was pissy at him, but it sounds like they messed up.

Edit: Dammit, cougar'd for the first part.

 

[Cakeisjustok]

The only one I know of for sure was Anime North, back in 2010. I used to work at it back then, and I remember hearing how rude he was to guest relations despite them meeting his demands.

Well first off he seems to have only attended it three times according to the Cons wiki. 2nd what did the con fuck up for him to be upset and need them to "meet his demands". What was the demand? Having a working mic? Bigger room so his fans don't have to wait outside? Be on time?

 

[teriyakiburns]

So we're going from "a lot of conventions" to one. Ok.

When I google "Anime North Vic Mignogna" the first thing to pop up is this video from 2010 of a fan talking about how the staff cut off Vic's line and weren't letting people see him but Vic was kind enough to risk missing his flight to sign for this guy's sister.

Anime North 2010 - The Vic Mignogna Story

My sister and I attended Anime North 2010 in hopes of getting her an autograph from her favorite anime voice actor, Vic Mignogna. Here's what happened.

www.youtube.com

This was in the comments. Could be why the staff was pissy at him, but it sounds like they messed up.

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Edit: Dammit, cougar'd for the first part.

So the staff were the assholes all along. What a shock.

 

[king of pickles]

Now that con staffers and their hearsay are brought up again, let's repeat the following:

Cons are not about some attention whore who wants a free ticket, it's about and for the fans, who bring the money. Who cares if a guest wasn't kissing volunteer ass, fuck those little self important shits. As far as fan interaction goes, he doesn't seem like a diva at all, while the Monicas, Seans, Jamies never hesitate to show fans and the whole fandom their contempt.

 

[Monkey Prick]

So we're going from "a lot of conventions" to one. Ok.

When I google "Anime North Vic Mignogna" the first thing to pop up is this video from 2010 of a fan talking about how the staff cut off Vic's line and weren't letting people see him but Vic was kind enough to risk missing his flight to sign for this guy's sister.

Anime North 2010 - The Vic Mignogna Story

My sister and I attended Anime North 2010 in hopes of getting her an autograph from her favorite anime voice actor, Vic Mignogna. Here's what happened.

www.youtube.com

This was in the comments. Could be why the staff was pissy at him, but it sounds like they messed up.

View attachment 786892

Edit: Dammit, cougar'd for the first part.

It's been a few months but I do remember it being mentioned that he got pissed at staff due to either kicking out his +1 or something to that effect. There's another story of him showing up to a con and something that was in his contract wasn't upheld (might even be the con forgot to book his hotel room for him and obviously the place was full).

Everytime I hear one of these "Vic is a diva to con staff" stories it always ends up being something like that, isn't their a story about him ranting about not being able to get his pizza or something too? Looking at how long he works his lines for at cons with no breaks I'd cut the dude some slack, working 7+ hours straight with no lunch break would make me want to punt a kitten into orbit.

 

[ShinyStar]

Calm down, I just linked a tweet relevant to the thread, albeit late.

Liar. You didn't just link a tweet, you used that tweet as evidence for the assertion that Vic's lawyers were incompetent. You total coward, are you going to pretend that the rest of your sentence doesn't exist? Now that people have told you more about the legal system and the case, either stand by your point and defend it or concede that you were totally ignorant.

 

[xyz741]

So the staff were the assholes all along. What a shock.

To be fair to the convention staff, NO ONE "wants" to be the asshole, and usually the staff "has" to play that part so that the guest they invited and shelled out money for gets to play hero for everyone. Plus you gotta keep things moving or fans of the NEXT guest is gonna complain that they didn't get their autograph because Vic was still there long past when he was supposed to be gone. Or the con is gonna be on the hook for hundreds of dollars in travel changes because he wasn't shuttled to his flight in time. Or ten other things that don't matter to the person wanting the autograph but do matter to the people just trying to do their "jobs". This is also why most are moving towards the comic con model of "I sit at a table and you pay me to sign something for you" instead of worrying about a specific set time for signing. Then staff can just wave the whole thing off as: if he's at the table, have at it.

 

[AnOminous]

Now that con staffers and their hearsay are brought up again, let's repeat the following:

Cons are not about some attention whore who wants a free ticket, it's about and for the fans, who bring the money. Who cares if a guest wasn't kissing volunteer ass, fuck those little self important shits. As far as fan interaction goes, he doesn't seem like a diva at all, while the Monicas, Seans, Jamies never hesitate to show fans and the whole fandom their contempt.

All that absolute bullshit like this does is increase the already obvious public view that the people attacking Vic just hate him for being popular.

This ridiculous shit amounts to self-important whores who volunteered for cons just to appear like they were important and got mad that Vic maybe asked them to do what his contract said they had to do anyway.

And now these vastly self-important whores want to destroy his entire life because of absolute bullshit grudges they've harbored ever since. Imagine being this pathetic.

 

[Monkey Prick]

To be fair to the convention staff, NO ONE "wants" to be the asshole, and usually the staff "has" to play that part so that the guest they invited and shelled out money for gets to play hero for everyone. Plus you gotta keep things moving or fans of the NEXT guest is gonna complain that they didn't get their autograph because Vic was still there long past when he was supposed to be gone. Or the con is gonna be on the hook for hundreds of dollars in travel changes because he wasn't shuttled to his flight in time. Or ten other things that don't matter to the person wanting the autograph but do matter to the people just trying to do their "jobs". This is also why most are moving towards the comic con model of "I sit at a table and you pay me to sign something for you" instead of worrying about a specific set time for signing. Then staff can just wave the whole thing off as: if he's at the table, have at it.

But the incident in question appears to be them kicking out his cousin who was his +1 to the convention, nothing about him staying to long signing stuff or hoggin other guests signing/panel time.

 

[OldAmishRenegade]

So the staff were the assholes all along. What a shock.

To be fair this person's comment should be taken with a grain of salt. Looking at her youtube she's an embarrassing fangirl. Vic deserves a medal for dealing with these awkward people jfc.

Vic Shout out 1.AVI

If you have no good comments, then dont comment!!!

www.youtube.com

Vic Shout out 2.AVI

No good comments, then don't leave comments!!

www.youtube.com

 

[Faket0Fake]

All that absolute bullshit like this does is increase the already obvious public view that the people attacking Vic just hate him for being popular.

This ridiculous shit amounts to self-important whores who volunteered for cons just to appear like they were important and got mad that Vic maybe asked them to do what his contract said they had to do anyway.

And now these vastly self-important whores want to destroy his entire life because of absolute bullshit grudges they've harbored ever since. Imagine being this pathetic.

People who volunteer to be con staff always seem to fall into one of two categories, either they want to rub shoulders with people from TV or they enjoy having a tiny amount of power over other people to feel good. I guess maybe in some cases getting free stuff is also an incentive. Some people get butt hurt because they didn't get to stand next to whatever TV star they like and stare at them all day and they have to carry shit and bring coffee to some person they don't care about. Most of them barely do the job they are supposed to be doing and never have any idea of what is happening. 50% of things that made me miserable at cons involve con staff with a shitty attitude.

Sometimes people care that a ton of people lined up all day to see them and they want to make sure it was worth it for them because they are humble and care about their fans. Con staff are there trying to cut off lines and limit the amount of stuff people can be signed or move people on faster like cunts. Had Mass Effect voice actors who came to a nearby bar to finish signing for people and taking photos because staff and security refused to allow the people in line to stay inside until they were finished because apparently them going home for dinner was more important than people who paid a lot of money to go to a con and meet voice actors.

 

[xyz741]

But the incident in question appears to be them kicking out his cousin who was his +1 to the convention, nothing about him staying to long signing stuff or hoggin other guests signing/panel time.

For all the (earned) skepticism that the allegations against Vic have gotten, I'd need SOME kind of detail beyond a rando YouTube comment to verify this. A guest's "staff" is ALWAYS a crew specifically assigned to handle them because there's a whole bunch of randos that can't keep themselves from sperg'ing in front of a "celebrity". The most likely scenario is that the cousin that "was suppose to stay with him" went running off to have fun and then came back and rando staff who didn't know her from psycho, milkshake-throwing hosebeast says "no access" and they need to work it all out later. EVERYONE is "just here to see X" when they get denied. Hell, my personal favorite story is seeing people on convention forums saying "bring X to a convention, I'd do ANYTHING to see them" con response: "X was here LAST year" person: "yeah, but I didn't go last year".

Have you ever worked retail? Do you know how much melodramatic bullshit customer service is? Because that's what cons are dialed up to 11. There are (not kidding) autistic morons that HONESTLY believe certain state or federal LAWS do not apply once you're on convention property. Like it's some fantasy land sovereign state that allows teenagers to do anything they want.

Have you ever worked retail? Do you know how much melodramatic bullshit customer service is? Because that's what cons are dialed up to 11. There are (not kidding) autistic morons that HONESTLY believe certain state or federal LAWS do not apply once you're on convention property. Like it's some fantasy land sovereign state that allows teenagers to do anything they want.

On a related note, it's kind of funny to see the recent spate of "Vic was leering at me, rheeeee" kind of allegations when during the time in question there were (not making this up) CONSTANT people complaining to staff for various conventions that the con staff and/or hotel staff were not letting them prance around the hotel lobby in underwear... or less.