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5t3n0g0ph3r said:
So after learning about Anime North's conduct in 2010 and how they shadowbanned Vic for trying to make the con experience more comfortable for his fans, then knowing that they invited Mike "Fat Man Who Cried 'Nazi'" Toole as a guest really tells me what kind of operation they are running (seriously, who demanded the con to invite Mike Toole as a guest?).
If anyone gets banned from Anime North, they should wear it as a badge of honor...... or a patch (@ShortRound).
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When you consider the fact that Toronto is Canadian SJW headquarters it's not really all that surprising.
 
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I'm probably not the only one to feel this way or post about this, but my mind is still entirely blown by just the premise of this situation. Like, I remember being a kid and slouching on the couch to watch Adult Swim. Now a voice actor from a show I happened to like has become the focal point of a massive legal and societal issue that, depending on its verdict, could have repercussions across all of pop culture, all due to the fact that a guy who produced a bunch of movies I sort of like became the focal point for a massive movement hijacked by crazed lunatics. If you went back all those years and tried to explain this whole situation for me, I'd have probably had a stroke trying to wrap my head around it. I of course think Vic is completely innocent, but even if he somehow turns out to be guilty against all odds this whole thing is still insane.
 
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Slab Bulkhead said:
I believe (in Shane's discord) one of the users had mentioned he worked at a convention that Vic volunteered to go to at no cost as a guest (vic had offered to pay for his own travel and rooming expenses I believe) and the con turned him down. Why? Because Vic was too popular, and that the added surge of guests that would come just to see Vic (an estimated 1.5-2000 guests) would put the con over capacity and likely get it shut down by the fire marshal since it was already somewhat close to capacity.

To me this sounds believable and I'm inclined to believe most of these "I work at a small con story and we banned Vic!" stories, if they happened at all, are actually along these lines. Vic offered to attend a con, con owner said no, con staff take that to mean Vic is banned at the con.
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Imagine being so popular you get shadowbanned for no other reason than that you're too popular.
 
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Can someone explain this "piece of shit" in a document thing? I think I might have missed the boat on that one.
 
Hotfartz :) said:
Can someone explain this "piece of shit" in a document thing? I think I might have missed the boat on that one.
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among the 400 tweets BHBH cited as defamatory, one of them TLDR stated "Vic is a criminal piece of shit." The BHBH papers says "our client is not made of feces nor is he a criminal thus this statement is defamatory."

People were jumping on it because it's frankly a bit silly, but what can you do. It's a fraction of a fraction of the things Missus Toye has to address.
 
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OneHandClapping said:
among the 400 tweets BHBH cited as defamatory, one of them TLDR stated "Vic is a criminal piece of shit." The BHBH papers says "our client is not made of feces nor is he a criminal thus this statement is defamatory."

People were jumping on it because it's frankly a bit silly, but what can you do. It's a fraction of a fraction of the things Missus Toye has to address.
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Ron's maturity level is what is silly. The tweet itself is simply part of what is needed to get exemplary damages. They are simply latching on to it because they've got nothing.

Again that is only one tweet out of 400. I would like to see Shane and his galaxy brained friends defend the other 399 tweets.
 
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OneHandClapping said:
among the 400 tweets BHBH cited as defamatory, one of them TLDR stated "Vic is a criminal piece of shit." The BHBH papers says "our client is not made of feces nor is he a criminal thus this statement is defamatory."

People were jumping on it because it's frankly a bit silly, but what can you do. It's a fraction of a fraction of the things Missus Toye has to address.
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to be fair, a compotent lawyer may have tried to turn it on them had they not included it. "what about this criminal piece of shit tweet? that wasnt defamation?"
 
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Faket0Fake said:
Con staff are there trying to cut off lines and limit the amount of stuff people can be signed or move people on faster like cunts.
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I'm not going to defend do it for frees in general but the lines thing is because there are fire code regulations, and they shut your whole event down if you don't do that.

feral cat #6385 said:
Again that is only one tweet out of 400. I would like to see Shane and his galaxy brained friends defend the other 399 tweets.
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On Twitter they have the option of cherry picking that one ridiculous thing that I'm going to give them because it really is ridiculous.

But in deposition they won't.

feral cat #6385 said:
Again that is only one tweet out of 400. I would like to see Shane and his galaxy brained friends defend the other 399 tweets.
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I'm just glad something this silly isn't in a load-bearing part of the lawsuit. It really doesn't matter. It's dumb but it isn't like the case gets thrown out because the plaintiff said something silly in a letter to the defendants.
 
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I don't even find the inclusion of the piece of shit tweet rediculous or silly at all. I think the focus id on the part where they said he was a "literal criminal", but they couldn't just address that part of it without addressing the "piece of shit" part too, so you end up with a legal statement that sounds kinda silly on the surface. Calling vic a literal criminal is defamatory, but you don't want to leave room for people to say "oh but he is a piece of shit?"

Edit-spelling error
 
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emspex said:
I'm gonna iterate something for you guys, because there was a lot to clean up in here over the last two days. This is a general discussion thread that you should really only post in if you have something that doesn't fit well in ANY OTHER THREAD.
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Sorry for the trouble :( I'll be sure to be careful where I shitpost next time.
 
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