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He's attacking everyone by trying to make youtube look like a toxic waste dump that nobody can advertise on, and Vox look like a dumpster fire.
Carlos Maza / @gaywonk versus Steven Blake Crowder / @scrowder (#VoxAdpocalypse) - Twitter war between a Canadian in nationality and a Canadian in behavior
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They also don't understand how shit works in these companies. Human intervention stops the exact second they can somewhat automate it. The automation in turn fucks them harder than it fucks those "evil right wingers". It happened when Facebook changed the algo to stop "right wing fake news". Remember what happened to Upworthy and Buzzfeed after that?
I believe it's happening on Twitter too. You can't filter for just "hate speech" because people will just use new slurs. You have to filter for "conflict content" which means the AI is trained for that. What is most SJW sperging on Twitter? Conflict content. How do they filter? By reducing the views of that content.
If you want to test the theory pick a hateful SJW cow, use a proxy and an incognito window, and look for their posts in a hashtag. You won't see them most of the time. That's why their engagement is tanking. I've noticed that I can't find particular KickVic cows and their sperging when I do this.
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Reminds me of an episode of All in the Family, where the Meathead son-in-law hosts a game night with his friends and basically lets his black guest (Lionel from The Jeffersons) win the board game. Lionel calls Meathead out on his shit, saying something along the lines of "At least Archie says what's on his mind; he's honest. You claim to be such a great person, yet all you see is my skin color, too."
Man. All in the Family is almost a 50 year-old show ... And yet it hasn't aged a bit. Damn.
I hate these people. "Skeptics," my fucking ass. If this new Adpocalypse (or potential mass channel takedown) happens, then I hope these amoebas get fisted first.
They are only screeching "FREEZE PEACH! FREEZE PEACH!" because it's going to affect them now. Censorship on others, though? Crickets. What greedy cowards.
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if he lives in texas, might he be able to sue gay wonk for TI or some such? the law there might be on his side.
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That's what Nick Rekieta thinks. We'll see if Crowder and Bill Richmond (his lawyer) thinks the same.
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These fucks have really gone for the ultimate Alt-Right pownage.
"These fucking right-winger nazi fucks are still here! They're STILL making fun of us, and Donald Trump wasn't impeached! it must be because of social media! How do we stop these nazis from taking over!?"
"Let's just fucking burn it all down!"
Sounds like shit Kraut would do if he went totally off the fucking deep end.
This 'journalist' faggot can't even comprehend what he's done. YouTube has been steadily going towards the bullshit system it's become, and this is one more nail in the coffin. I really thought people were exaggerating when I've seen them discussing this, but reading this thread is eye opening. Every site that has any kind of huge userbase can be fucked by a faggot-ass mexican with hurt feelings. Working for VOX TOO! Fucking Vox? Don't they just makes 'articles' about making cum cocktails?!
And the discrimination shit. People say the slippery slope is bullshit and here we go. "They hate gays! YouTube doesn't support gays!"
This shit is infuriating.
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Thank you. I actually did some basic search and was told he was based out of Quebec.
So. He's in Texas.
Will Youtube learn to Fear the Beard?
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Actually, Crowder's lawyer is Half-Asian:
Bill Richmond — Platt Cheema Richmond PLLC
www.pcrfirm.com
And he has worked wonders for Crowder in the past, especially with YouTube.
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I'm in a weird position right now. Generally I'm sympathetic to content creators getting their revenue fucked with, but I don't see a very good fight being put up.
Lets take that tweet thread from Memology
-Vox employees want fair wages
-Vox's main revenue is youtube
-But the journos aren't paid through youtube
-Therefore they were trying to fuck with youtube to gain leverage in negotiations
So they were trying to fuck with youtube to gain leverage to get paid more, by going after the main revenue source by making more restrictive hate speech rules? The same hate speech rules you'll never see apply to Vox? So that probably wouldn't do anything, at all. Its just fucking dumb.
Or something I keep seeing pop up.
"Crowder is just calling him a queer which is what he calls himself! How could Carlos take offense to that!"
I swear if you add a smug chuckle to that you'll see how fucking dumb it is.
Or alternatively,
"Crowder wasn't selling a shirt saying fags! It said figs! There's a clear difference!"
Again, add a smuckle.
Its easy to counter both by saying, "Well Crowder's intent was to be offensive, by using or alluding to homophobic language." To which 'our' side will respond, "Who cares if it was offensive!". And no shifts happen, everyone just gets increasingly entrenched.
Emphasize Carlos' insincerity by connecting the gay pride month timing. Their moralfagging is their strength, undermine it. Attack Attack Attack, make them make mistakes. Make them show themselves.
Do not try to be clever with SJWs, it just does not fly. Do not try to out victim the SJWs, it will not fucking work.
Trying weaponize a moral indignation from a free speech position is good, but it does more to pander to the base than actually expand it or weaken their base.
And there's a great deal of insincerity involved that people are not fucking seeing.
If you've seriously thought about donating or supporting Crowder over this then you've fallen for a grift. The dude is a narcissist who treats his employees like shit and has used this as an opportunity to shill his mug club. He wasn't making much from youtube in the first place so he saw this as a business opportunity.
Here's a quote from the live stream, "This whole thing was really just a ding, but here's a promo code and by the way we need it more than ever!"
I'll even extend this to the rest of this alt-media crowd. Crowder, Skeptics, Minds, The Blaze, The Rebel, The IDW and even fucking Lauren Southern are all fucking snakes. They will bleed you dry and take you for everything you're willing to fork over both in time and money.
These people are not sincere. These people are not on your side. These people are purely fucking selfish.
It sucks that the institutions we are dealing with are going to fuck it all up, but our best shot at changing things (online) is pretty much garbage. They largely lack the proper savvy to effectively deal with SJWs and as such they've made themselves too vulnerable to a broader public. The only people they're effectively gaining favor with are shitposters and potential paypigs.
TL;DR Crowder is a grifter, 'Our' side is full of idiots, and we've been dealt a shit hand.
Lets take that tweet thread from Memology
-Vox employees want fair wages
-Vox's main revenue is youtube
-But the journos aren't paid through youtube
-Therefore they were trying to fuck with youtube to gain leverage in negotiations
So they were trying to fuck with youtube to gain leverage to get paid more, by going after the main revenue source by making more restrictive hate speech rules? The same hate speech rules you'll never see apply to Vox? So that probably wouldn't do anything, at all. Its just fucking dumb.
Or something I keep seeing pop up.
"Crowder is just calling him a queer which is what he calls himself! How could Carlos take offense to that!"
I swear if you add a smug chuckle to that you'll see how fucking dumb it is.
Or alternatively,
"Crowder wasn't selling a shirt saying fags! It said figs! There's a clear difference!"
Again, add a smuckle.
Its easy to counter both by saying, "Well Crowder's intent was to be offensive, by using or alluding to homophobic language." To which 'our' side will respond, "Who cares if it was offensive!". And no shifts happen, everyone just gets increasingly entrenched.
Emphasize Carlos' insincerity by connecting the gay pride month timing. Their moralfagging is their strength, undermine it. Attack Attack Attack, make them make mistakes. Make them show themselves.
Do not try to be clever with SJWs, it just does not fly. Do not try to out victim the SJWs, it will not fucking work.
Trying weaponize a moral indignation from a free speech position is good, but it does more to pander to the base than actually expand it or weaken their base.
And there's a great deal of insincerity involved that people are not fucking seeing.
If you've seriously thought about donating or supporting Crowder over this then you've fallen for a grift. The dude is a narcissist who treats his employees like shit and has used this as an opportunity to shill his mug club. He wasn't making much from youtube in the first place so he saw this as a business opportunity.
Here's a quote from the live stream, "This whole thing was really just a ding, but here's a promo code and by the way we need it more than ever!"
I'll even extend this to the rest of this alt-media crowd. Crowder, Skeptics, Minds, The Blaze, The Rebel, The IDW and even fucking Lauren Southern are all fucking snakes. They will bleed you dry and take you for everything you're willing to fork over both in time and money.
These people are not sincere. These people are not on your side. These people are purely fucking selfish.
It sucks that the institutions we are dealing with are going to fuck it all up, but our best shot at changing things (online) is pretty much garbage. They largely lack the proper savvy to effectively deal with SJWs and as such they've made themselves too vulnerable to a broader public. The only people they're effectively gaining favor with are shitposters and potential paypigs.
TL;DR Crowder is a grifter, 'Our' side is full of idiots, and we've been dealt a shit hand.
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Write a manifesto if you care so much, you flaming autist. Who would have thought that e-celebs like money and hold no real influence?
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People seem to give this Carlos guy credit for triggering this new hate speech crackdown from Youtube. This seems pretty unlikely. Youtube obviously uses more than a week to decide on and implement things like this.
Either way I guess people found the target to divert their anger at. And Carlos thinking he's so powerful he made Youtube change their policies cries for more. The irony is that the only people seemingly gaining from this is Carlos and Crowder themselves. Especially the latter who can pretty directly monetize this attention by selling his subscription cups.
Either way I guess people found the target to divert their anger at. And Carlos thinking he's so powerful he made Youtube change their policies cries for more. The irony is that the only people seemingly gaining from this is Carlos and Crowder themselves. Especially the latter who can pretty directly monetize this attention by selling his subscription cups.
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Yes, why would someone make a Che parody shirt involving Fig trees. Clearly a mystery to everyone.
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Yet the new YT policy says some shit about steering more traffic to "trusted creators" or some shit. I'd wager Vox falls under that category.
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And socialism is pretty faggy.
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This is Kiwifarms, not Reddit. We all understand that the shirt is a direct play on the word fag. None of us give a fuck. Stop with your disingenuous whiteknighting faggotry.
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I'm pointing it out for anyone that believes the guy actually needs help and wants to get a mug. If you're already cynical then my post won't do anything, hence the TLDR.
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Ban Vox from Youtube. Vox goes banckrupt because no one reads their garbage, every faggot parasite gets fired and they all get the chance to find a job that offers them a fair wage. I hear coding is still an option for unemployed talentless "journalists." All problems get solved.
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So get them banned by making more restrictive hate speech guidelines? For Vox? The far left progressive channel?
Smrt.
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Squeal louder, paypiggy.
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ITT: People getting salty because some YouTube retards got demonetized.
Now we're in step 2, not only aren't companies able to ban people from their property, now they have to give them money too. Fantastic!
I wish Chris knew about this wonderful future in advance, that maybe one day, Snyder would have to give him money for tarding out in Pokemon Tournaments.
Now we're in step 2, not only aren't companies able to ban people from their property, now they have to give them money too. Fantastic!
I wish Chris knew about this wonderful future in advance, that maybe one day, Snyder would have to give him money for tarding out in Pokemon Tournaments.