Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[DrunkJoe]

Funi is run by nitwits and the glassdoor reviews shows that they lack hr and neoptism runs rampant. Of course they are going to double down and fight and probably loose more in the end. I used to be in hr / management and pretty much the entire class work involved on how to not get sued they pretty much did the opposite. Shit I will not be surprised that during discovery they get caught trying to doctor up some documents. They already leaked internal shit that should have been privileged internally to the shoe eater.

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Right from the damn book that simpflied legalise for management.

 

[Evil Bunny]

Hey guys this is my first post here...Currently my twitter account is banned.
Dominique Skype and her monkeys did it
Oh FUNimation is denying everything just like Marchi...Interesting

Denying everything is not unique, this is a typical first response in a case from what I understand. It doesn't mean Funimation will not settle or wants to proceed, at this stage for them it's either admit they did everything (or some of it) or blanket deny. It's typical (from what I understand from the lawyer streams) for a blanket denial this early, these are opening salvos not the end of the war.

OH and welcome to the farms, may want to read some posts on how to behave here or do what many others have which is long time lurk before going too active.

 

[Mecharmadillo]

Weird response.

I mean, its better than monron's, but that's not exactly a high bar.
Its not a good defense, but at least its not downright stupid. its just a "write every possible defense there, we'll sort it out later" sort of deal.


But why on earth did they ask Ty for an extension if this is what they come up with in the end? it looks like something a lawfirm inter could have done in an afternoon without much trouble.


This is so weird...



Anyways, arn't monron supposed to submit their "evidence" today? anyone knows the timeline? (though it will be freaking hilarious if they are late to file AGAIN)

 

[UA 674]

Weird response.

I mean, its better than monron's, but that's not exactly a high bar.
Its not a good defense, but at least its not downright stupid. its just a "write every possible defense there, we'll sort it out later" sort of deal.


But why on earth did they ask Ty for an extension if this is what they come up with in the end? it looks like something a lawfirm inter could have done in an afternoon without much trouble.


This is so weird...



Anyways, arn't monron supposed to submit their "evidence" today? anyone knows the timeline? (though it will be freaking hilarious if they are late to file AGAIN)

They'll likely file a TCPA 6 hours late to blueball everyone, unless somehow Ron came up with the 100 women story facts and details.

 

[Evil Bunny]

Weird response.

I mean, its better than monron's, but that's not exactly a high bar.
Its not a good defense, but at least its not downright stupid. its just a "write every possible defense there, we'll sort it out later" sort of deal.


But why on earth did they ask Ty for an extension if this is what they come up with in the end? it looks like something a lawfirm inter could have done in an afternoon without much trouble.


This is so weird...



Anyways, arn't monron supposed to submit their "evidence" today? anyone knows the timeline? (though it will be freaking hilarious if they are late to file AGAIN)

I don't know, as a guess as to why they waited, I suspect that having to find outside representation combined with them having much more to 'lose' than the other defendants led to them lagging a bit, I'd guess that consul and corporate are still doing their own internal discovery on some of this, we have to remember there have been thousands of kiwifarms hours put in on this by people with varying familiarity, could be the outside consul is moderately shocked, plus IIRC funimation doesn't have nearly as many causes of action against them, probably spending a ton of time on agency and trying to figure out how to distance themselves from Toye/etc.

 

[Mecharmadillo]

They'll likely file a TCPA 6 hours late to blueball everyone, unless somehow Ron came up with the 100 women story facts and details.

I am not proud on how long it took to read this sentence with the dancing 2B on the side distracting me.


Are there any consequences to filing late again? because a judge is BOUND to be pissed off from the same laywer being late to file twice.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

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I really wish this was a joke... (Also she has me blocked so I can't get an archive of her tweet.)

I recall that there was a time that she translated something into Japanese for one of her video descriptions, and someone who made comment on it said that her Japanese was extremely poor.

I spoke with @DefinitelyNotSane about the pictures linked by the Michelle account, and he concludes that they were most certainly shopped.

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Link to the ELA

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https://twitter.com/MichellMcC73/status/1136461331429826561

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Supposing this was a shop, the next step would be to find the picture of Vic that this Vic comes from.

 

[UA 674]

I am not proud on how long it took to read this sentence with the dancing 2B on the side distracting me.


Are there any consequences to filing late again? because a judge is BOUND to be pissed off from the same laywer being late to file twice.

I'd imagine that Ty could potentially file something for sanctions if it's egregious enough, I recall the judge already being pissed off already.

@AnOminous

 

[Commander]

I am not proud on how long it took to read this sentence with the dancing 2B on the side distracting me.


Are there any consequences to filing late again? because a judge is BOUND to be pissed off from the same laywer being late to file twice.

I think we all get distracted by it. As for the lateness, it grinds down to the judge which having a late TCPA for someone like Ron or Monica when the lawyer promised they weren't going to file one isn't going to go over well. It'll probably just get thrown into the trash as the case continues. This is kangaroo court right now so who knows.

 

[Soviras]

It's the same as in Marchi's response as well, but at least it was worded differently.

In Marchi's response, the comma actually splits the sentences properly, to insert a clarification of "all and singular" as opposed to implying "only all of those things together". In Funimations response the comma is surplus and changes the meaning of the sentence to say they "deny each and every" and the "allegation" isn't part of that segment but another thing entirely. It would be pretty petty of someone to go after that, but lawyers are paid to be petty as long as it benefits their case (and I would be disappointed if it doesn't come up at some point). Likely it will end in a correction in an amended response for this case or be corrected in a later document, but this kind of error could be an easy way out for some other cases.

 

[In Heaven]

Weird response.

I mean, its better than monron's, but that's not exactly a high bar.
Its not a good defense, but at least its not downright stupid. its just a "write every possible defense there, we'll sort it out later" sort of deal.


But why on earth did they ask Ty for an extension if this is what they come up with in the end? it looks like something a lawfirm inter could have done in an afternoon without much trouble.


This is so weird...

Funi is the same place that hired Monica and Jamie. It's not staffed with the brightest people.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Weird response.

I mean, its better than monron's, but that's not exactly a high bar.
Its not a good defense, but at least its not downright stupid. its just a "write every possible defense there, we'll sort it out later" sort of deal.

But why on earth did they ask Ty for an extension if this is what they come up with in the end? it looks like something a lawfirm inter could have done in an afternoon without much trouble.

As mentioned before, they have to write every defense in this, because if they don't they can't use it later. Or did I misunderstand that?

As for the delay, they might have been conducting an internal investigation to see how fucked they are. Or might have had another trial keeping them busy.

 

[indianshedevil]

I'm not an English teacher or anything, but I'm reading this and immediately I notice a weird ass typo inserting a random comma. Did they not proof read their response?

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No, I believe that they didn't want to spend any time on proofreading this before they turned it in.

It's suppose to say "Defendant generally denies each and every allegation in Plaintiff's Original Petition..."

It also shouldn't have a comma in-between every and allegation mainly because it really come out very weird.

I wonder if someone didn't do so well in English class.

 

[TexOffender]

No, I believe that they didn't want to spend any time on proofreading this before they turned it in.

It's suppose to say "Defendant generally denies each and every allegation in Plaintiff's Original Petition..."

It also shouldn't have a comma in-between every and allegation mainly because it really come out very weird.

I wonder if someone didn't do so well in English class.

Nick and Ty had that funny talk on stream about how a lot of law students are poor writers and when he applied to law school they were like "oh thank god" when he said he had a degree in english.

 

[Sakana]

So I read through Funi's response. IANAL, but some of the affirmative defenses have me scratching my head and wanting to pull my hair out.

So Ty talking about the already public statements, they're not defamatory anymore? Nick isn't an agent of Vic (or is he since he's in charge of the GFM???), so I don't get the point of this statement.

You mean all 5 people sitting in a dark corner of the internet and hissing at Vic from a distance while he was still being invited to dozens of cons a year and having his panels and signing lines at capacity before shit hit the fan?

"Actual malice." Judge hasn't ruled if he's a public figure or not, cucklords.

No. Just no.

Libel-proof? You mean to tell us that Vic's reputation was already SO BAD that he couldn't be defamed in any way that would further hurt his reputation and business prospects? This one has me doing retarded mental gymnastics.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Hey guys this is my first post here...Currently my twitter account is banned.
Dominique Skype and her monkeys did it
Oh FUNimation is denying everything just like Marchi...Interesting

That’s normal. You are supposed to just cleanly and broadly deny everything in a response. You are outlining possible defenses you may use. Not arguing your narrative. You’re flinging spaghetti at the wall, because if you don’t fling it now, you can’t use it later. I don’t know which of Funi’s lawyers filed that. But it doesn’t matter. It was a nice clean response. A handful of pages. No bullshit. This is what it is supposed to look like.

Don’t assume anything regarding Funi settling yet. Way too early. But they are talking to the Plaintiff’s lawyers. Which is generally a sign they would be open to it, depending on what these other three idiots do.

 

[Doodle]

I'll just give my completely uneducated impression that I have 0% qualification to give.

1) This answer is not even in the same ballpark in terms of pure spergery as MoRon (not really that surprising considering the high bar put in place). Nick will be able to tell if there is anything weird going on with the legal language but most of these are just generic defenses. If I understand Nick, the defendant should put literally every single defense they can think of into their response (even if they don't make sense or are contradictory) because they lose the right to use them later in the process.

2) Funimation does not appear to be overtly doubling down on the SJW angle (they basically denied that their tweet was calling him a harasser or sexual abuser). I could be wrong though. There is the defense that the assertions were "substantially true" but that is really just another generic defense.


Edit: One thing I found interesting upon re-reading was the section 2 of the Verified Denial section which states "Defendant specifically denies that Plaintiff complied with the requirements of the Defamation Mitigation Act before filing this lawsuit". Which I don't remember seeing in Cassey Erick's response or Marchi's response. I wonder what they are talking about?

Edit2: This response also basically denies that Ron or Monica were acting as agents of Fumination whereas, if I remember right, MoRon's answer did not deny that they were acting as Funimation's agent (it was something Nick brought up as mysteriously missing from the response).

 

[UA 674]

Yeah, it just seems odd with the statements they included, but I suppose we'll see. I'm more interested in what Moronica and Casey's game plan is today.

 

[Null]

the defendant should put literally every single defense they can think of into their response (even if they don't make sense or are contradictory) because they lose the right to use them later in the process.

That's usually the case. At least in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, making two defenses that are contradictory does not impeach either.

 

[Sakana]

This answer is not even in the same ballpark in terms of pure spergery as MoRon

I'm hoping we won't see any more abysmal responses like that one. Watching Nick go over that response took 20 years off of my life.