Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Nontransferable said:
In the linked twitter thread, she makes no mention of any sexual advances during the production of the spring play. The event in question allegedly happened during the summer, after the school year had ended.


FYI, this is from February 2019. She originally made this claim on PULL in Oct 2017.

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That was actually one of the first things I had brought up to him. He didn't even bother trying to argue against it and went to talking about Vic's resume.
 
RodgerDodger said:
They go straight to BHBH. We would not know unless one side or the other says something about them. My suspicion is they will get something today, but not everything. They will have to pry the rest out. I honestly wouldn’t blame Casey at this point. It’s doubtful he has seen the full volume of Ron’s digital e-sperging. Ron is extra special.
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To expand on that a little. If they've negotiated an extension of time with Ty, then nothing happens. If they haven't negotiated an extension with Ty and they simply don't hand everything over, then Ty can file a motion to compel and ask them to pay the legal costs associated with that. Both of these scenarios assume that Casey doesn't file anything which would bring discovery to a halt.
 
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VisualRemix said:
So looking at this again, she was of the age of consent back then, advances were denied, he kicked her out, and at the end of it all nothing happened.

What a self defeating testimony.

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Well, that is an interesting theory of how and why was KickVic was made in the first place. Also it's indeed a self defeating testimony.
 
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Oh I'm sure this gonna age real well for you ajay. I'm sure that whole thread will.
 
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VisualRemix said:
So looking at this again, she was of the age of consent back then, advances were denied, he kicked her out, and at the end of it all nothing happened.

What a self defeating testimony.
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This is why they have to resort to lynch-mob justice. Because even in the scenario where this 30 year old testimony is true, it amounts to literally nothing
 
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VisualRemix said:
So looking at this again, she was of the age of consent back then, advances were denied, he kicked her out, and at the end of it all nothing happened.

What a self defeating testimony.

Edit: shouldn't have said worst case scenario
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Her comments about the fanficiness of the story - responding that she was a writer - makes me think there's probably some embellishments , if it happened at all.
All she can prove (with the pictures) is that she knew of him. Not that they knew each other.

If something did happen, then the way she describes the aftermath, lamenting that he "hated her", makes me think that wasn't completely one-sided, either.
 
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Oh I'm sure this gonna age real well for you ajay. I'm sure that whole thread will.
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Watching this crumble around them is one of the funniest and most gratifying things to witness. You can just feel them seething. Of course, once they lose, they'll start crying about injustice, despite their whole movement based on the notion of vigilante justice.
 
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I'm skeptical of this claim about that old image of Vic being Photoshopped. I'm just not seeing it.

There's a strategy I use for visual art where I take an image and then equalize each channel in varying colorspaces to generate neat false-color versions of a photo. One of the strengths of this strategy is that it occasionally makes inconsistencies very plain. This analysis is not showing anything atypical in the image. I don't find the error-level analyses very persuasive here.

I've attached a few different colorspaces to show the kind of details this equalization technique pulls out of the image. Left to right, these colorspaces are xyY, HSI, RGB, YUV.
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DeadFry said:
Her comments about the fanficiness of the story - responding that she was a writer - makes me think there's probably some embellishments , if it happened at all.
All she can prove (with the pictures) is that she knew of him. Not that they knew each other.

If something did happen, then the way she describes the aftermath, lamenting that he "hated her", makes me think that wasn't completely one-sided, either.
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As a writer, you would think that your thoughts on paper would have some intent to them. This story just makes her look like she couldn't make up her mind if she wanted to accuse him of sexual assault or not. Instead, it sounds like a poorly written romance novel by somebody that had a yaoi fanfiction obsession during her teen years.

Also, after all these years or the past few months, why did nobody bother to even question who the heck "his friend" was?

Oh my Lord. This is like some Ouran Host Club Fruits Baskets fanfic level shit.
 
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farmcat said:
I'm skeptical of this claim about that old image of Vic being Photoshopped. I'm just not seeing it.

There's a strategy I use for visual art where I take an image and then equalize each channel in varying colorspaces to generate neat false-color versions of a photo. One of the strengths of this strategy is that it occasionally makes inconsistencies very plain. This analysis is not showing anything atypical in the image. I don't find the error-level analyses very persuasive here.

I've attached a few different colorspaces to show the kind of details this equalization technique pulls out of the image. Left to right, these colorspaces are xyY, HSI, RGB, YUV.
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Can you provide some indication of what you WOULD see if there was a photoshop event? would the colors be different or how would that look?
 
farmcat said:
I'm skeptical of this claim about that old image of Vic being Photoshopped. I'm just not seeing it.

There's a strategy I use for visual art where I take an image and then equalize each channel in varying colorspaces to generate neat false-color versions of a photo. One of the strengths of this strategy is that it occasionally makes inconsistencies very plain. This analysis is not showing anything atypical in the image. I don't find the error-level analyses very persuasive here.

I've attached a few different colorspaces to show the kind of details this equalization technique pulls out of the image. Left to right, these colorspaces are xyY, HSI, RGB, YUV.
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Doodle said:
Can you provide some indication of what you WOULD see if there was a photoshop event? would the colors be different or how would that look?
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Seconded. I'd really like to see an example of what a photo-shopped image would look like put through that process so that we can compare the results.
 
Doodle said:
Can you provide some indication of what you WOULD see if there was a photoshop event? would the colors be different or how would that look?
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Obviously it depends greatly on what exactly has been done. The point of the technique is to shift the representation of the image so that edits that might be less obvious become more visually apparent.

One of the claims I saw in this thread was that it looked like there was a brown spot on the fireplace that seemed to be overlaid on Vic's image. If you look at the equalized versions, the fact that Vic's sweater and the fireplace frame are just really close in colour. There's a little wavy detail in the center of the bottom-left portion of the jacket's edge in the HSI colorspace that makes it visually apparent that the two surfaces are actually close enough in color to be indistinguishable.
 
farmcat said:
I'm skeptical of this claim about that old image of Vic being Photoshopped. I'm just not seeing it.

There's a strategy I use for visual art where I take an image and then equalize each channel in varying colorspaces to generate neat false-color versions of a photo. One of the strengths of this strategy is that it occasionally makes inconsistencies very plain. This analysis is not showing anything atypical in the image. I don't find the error-level analyses very persuasive here.

I've attached a few different colorspaces to show the kind of details this equalization technique pulls out of the image. Left to right, these colorspaces are xyY, HSI, RGB, YUV.
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There is still something really wonky with that picture. His legs are clipping through the chair. That sign is both behind his head and in front of his shoulder. Even the first of your colorspace examples looks wonky.
 
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ShinyStar said:
Seconded. I'd really like to see an example of what a photo-shopped image would look like put through that process so that we can compare the results.
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It's really not some silver bullet, nor is it very rigorous, it just has the property that it makes subtle variations in an image way more obvious, akin to the error-level analysis. There's interest in the technique, but I'd rather not pull the thread that far off-topic. Which subforum would be best for a thread going into specifics?
 
Apterigo said:
Watching this crumble around them is one of the funniest and most gratifying things to witness. You can just feel them seething. Of course, once they lose, they'll start crying about injustice, despite their whole movement based on the notion of vigilante justice.
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Doucette has certainly reenergized their depleting front on Twitter, and the spergs on our side are certainly not helping. However, it is interesting to see him, and those who have clung to him, indulge in every behavior that they denounced Nick for with their only excuse being that he is a real lawyer and Nick is a fraud.
 
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