Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[John Merston]

Why would you post pictures of such a horribly deformed child online?
People are assholes, and that's just opening up the door for abuse.

As pointed out before, these people simply can't understand why others wouldn't see their little freaks as BLESSINGS FROM GOD.

 

[sperginity]

Yeah while forced sterilization is a thing that's happened relatively recently and is extremely fucked up, women who want to be sterilized can have a pretty hard time making it happen.

I'm still wondering how the fuck Sapphire Crimson Claw in the Tumblr subforum got a hysterectomy in her late 20's with no kids. Slight PL but I have a friend who had a hysterectomy for medical reasons and had to go through like four doctors before she found one willing to do the procedure because she had no kids and was in her late 20's.

Getting a referral from a sympathetic family planning center can help. You don't ever want kids, your decision is carefully thought over. Emphasize that you were abused as a child and are afraid of repeating the cycle if you have children of your own.

Hysterectomy is not the surgery of choice for sterilization, it comes with far too many risks vs tubal ligation.
To answer the question why it is so hard for women to get elective sterilization:
It is because women have successfully sued after they changed their minds about having children later on. Juries are sympathetic to infertile women who are upset about it. Additionally, the rate of attempted reversal of tubal ligation is at least 10% even in carefully screened applicants, physicians do not like that rate of reversal on an elective surgery, most people don't like doing work that 1 out of 10 people tell you to undo a few years later. They especially do not like the reversal rates when they know they are risking a malpractice suit. The surgery is pretty invasive compared to vasectomy, and Essure is turning out to be another law suit shit show for other reasons. In vasectomy, even if a reversal fails sperm can be directly aspirated out of the testicles with a needle if a guy is that desperate to procreate (it is an outpatient procedure so cheap and minimally invasive). It seems to me to be a consequence of how medically difficult it is to access testes vs ovaries, and also the issue of unlimited sperm vs limited ova. The existence of misogynistic physicians don't improve the chances of getting sterilized on top of the inherent challenges. In general, men are the ones who should be sterilized to prevent pregnancies.

Could she have gone to some low-tier gender confirmation doctor? There's one near me who is known in local trans and "enby" circles for performing hysterectomies on just about any woman who walks in the door.

This is a loophole for the time being, until a bunch of detransitioners sue and win. So if you want to get sterilized this is the way for right now. All you have to do is say which organs are incongruent with your "gender identity" and some crazy doctor will chop it off you for now. clown world, etc.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Why would you post pictures of such a horribly deformed child online?
People are assholes, and that's just opening up the door for abuse.

They think it will being attention to the rare disorder their child has but she looks so differnt that it instead shocks people and thats probably why they "bully"

 

[Bunny]

Uhhh, Sophia Weaver didn't have Treacher Collins. As a matter of fact, I don't think there's a name for the specific facial condition she had.

We do know that she suffered from Rett Syndrome. which causes severe mental EXCEPTIONALISM, so she probably didn't have the brainpower to realize how sad her situation was.

Oh sorry. I didn't know what she had really. I just saw that she died and I wondered if it was mentioned here. Well I'm glad she wasn't coherent enough to notices people's reactions to her.

Why would you post pictures of such a horribly deformed child online?
People are assholes, and that's just opening up the door for abuse.

Seriously. I get they were trying to raise awareness, but sometimes you have to be smart enough to know that she's going to be attacked viciously because she's so frightening looking. And then to keep posting pics because ~you're not going to let the haters get you down. You don't get to play the victim when you keep putting your severely disfigured child out there and get shitty responses. It sucks and they're rude, but like be realistic.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

Oh sorry. I didn't know what she had really. I just saw that she died and I wondered if it was mentioned here. Well I'm glad she wasn't coherent enough to notices people's reactions to her.



Seriously. I get they were trying to raise awareness, but sometimes you have to be smart enough to know that she's going to be attacked viciously because she's so frightening looking. And then to keep posting pics because ~you're not going to let the haters get you down. You don't get to play the victim when you keep putting your severely disfigured child out there and get shitty responses. It sucks and they're rude, but like be realistic.

I personally would never tell her mom she should've aborted Sophia, but I would never post so many things (f anything at all) about her online.
There has to be a better way to raise awareness.
That's a horrifying disability, and the mother should've expected not everyone will respond with joy and asspats.

 

[latter day taint]

Though on that note I have been curious as to what CPCs or Christian adoption agencies do in the event the "birth mother" turns out to be carrying a potato. Because the demand for deliberately adopting tater babies looks to be borderline insignificant and I can't find many records of such a situation occurring.

There was a thread on the GOMI forums that was all about these fundies who adopt severely disabled children. They all seem to be cows doing it for the ass pats.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Just look at Romania when they decided to make abortion and birth control illegal in order to increase population. It lead to a decrease in population instead because women decided to either shove a coat hanger up her cooch or go to back alley doctors since they have no safe way of getting rid of the fetus.

(Edit: corrected a word)

Or worse, unwanted children were dumped in state orphanages and left to rot. A lot of them suffered profound developmental delays because staff did not have the time to actually raise and socialise them.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

We do know that she suffered from Rett Syndrome. which causes severe mental EXCEPTIONALISM, so she probably didn't have the brainpower to realize how sad her situation was.

Well I'm glad she wasn't coherent enough to notices people's reactions to her.

Actually Rett is fucking terrifying because they are aware of how sad their situation is. It's better to think of it like an extreme form of Parkinsons than mental re.tardation.

Spoiler: Rett sperg

A hefty percentage of them have no mental impairment, in the sense that they can understand what is going on. They just can't coordinate meaningful movements so speaking, signing, writing, pointing, anything that looks like communication to most people is out of the question. Even breathing can be difficult and they have these crises where they can't coordinate the movement to breathe properly and will involuntarily hold their breath or hyperventilate.

However, it's been shown that if they're treated like other children their age and instead of like potatoes, they can understand spoken language as well as or almost as well as their non-Rett peers. Some of them even learn to "speak" through eye gaze computers, like this little girl, although these things are prohibitively expensive.

The exception is usually the girls who have comorbid problems that take their own toll on mental development. Most of the ones that are truly intellectually disabled present with microcephaly from birth or intractable epilepsy in infancy, whereas other girls will be born totally normal but their head growth will slow and seizures develop as they age.

The second terrifying thing about Rett is it is progressive and goes through stages. They start off normal and hit all their milestones, including learning to walk and speak, then start to decline sometime between their first and second birthday (some earlier). At first it looks like autism; they might wring their hands frequently and have difficulty with eye contact and they start to miss milestones. Sometime around age 3 they'll start to rapidly decline. Usually the first thing to happen is they lose all control of their hands. Their hands just do all sorts of crazy shit they can't control like they'll look like they're washing them over and over and over again or they'll clench their fists behind their back and not be able to move them. They lose language, they lose the ability to walk, the terrifying breathing crises start, they cry or scream inappropriately and uncontrollably, etc.

Then it levels out and, with seizure control and a lot of PT, can improve. This is the stage cute little Maggie up there is in. She has learned to balance and coordinatewell enough to surf and skateboard and is able to create increasingly complex sentences through her eye gaze computer. Her parents are kind of amazing human beings and I've been in contact with them a few times in the past through Rett events. When there's something she wants to do that isn't yet adapted for her impairments, her dad finds a way to make it happen.

However, barring some breakthrough (and there's some really promising shit happening in the research world right now so it could be on the horizon), even ones who make remarkable strides like girls with the Zapella Variant (who can regain language skills after the rapid destructive phase) don't live very long and continue to decline in age. They enter a slow regression stage after usually a prolonged stabilization/improvement phase. Most only live into their 30s, 40 at best. Many die very suddenly of cardiac arrest from arrhythmias or GI obstructions caused by failure of even involuntary movements.

And the third terrifying thing is it's a de novo mutation in almost every case, meaning it's not something parents can predict. On the plus side it means the odds of having two girls (and they're almost all girls because boys with the mutation tend to die instead) with Rett in the same family are slim. On the other hand, since the parents aren't carriers of the mutant gene it's not like they can decide not to have kids because they don't want to risk that they bring someone with this awful condition into the world.

Edit: Ah, fuck, I just checked out Maggie's dad and she's starting to regress again. Lost seizure control and can't coordinate eating and drinking anymore so she's schedule for a PEG. Fuck this disease in the eye socket.

 

[AngelOfNoMercy]

Someone made a post today in a group I belong to, shaming everyone who did not send her kid with autism a birthday card. Something about it just really annoyed me. Everyone in the group has at least one child with some sort of issue. Apparently we are all mean for not remembering her kid's birthday.

 

[The Husbando Collector]

Someone made a post today in a group I belong to, shaming everyone who did not send her kid with autism a birthday card. Something about it just really annoyed me. Everyone in the group has at least one child with some sort of issue. Apparently we are all mean for not remembering her kid's birthday.

I think my IQ just dropped by ten points reading that. How comfortable is your life and how entitled do you have to be to get so butthurt over having your own little chris chan's birthday being forgotten by others in a group meant for other potato kids? God damn it, I hate these kinds of parents.

 

[AngelOfNoMercy]

It's not just potato kids. Some of the kids have cancer, diabetes, and other issues. She deleted it once a bunch of parents reminded her that all of our kids are going through stuff.

 

[The Husbando Collector]

It's not just potato kids. Some of the kids have cancer, diabetes, and other issues. She deleted it once a bunch of parents reminded her that all of our kids are going through stuff.

Well in that case, that makes her an even bigger bitch for thinking that her autistic kid is going through rougher shit than someone with fucking cancer.

 

[AngelOfNoMercy]

I know that one child just had heart surgery. My child has chronic lung disease. Some of these little kids are neurotypical and battling some big things. I commented that my child was in the hospital last week and that I was sorry for putting my kid first.

 

[FramerGirl420]

Lol, "Your kid is dying of cancer? Oh yeah, well my kid can't understand social cues!"

But seriously, the kid is an autist. He prob knows he doesn't have any friends other than Thomas the Tank Engine.

 

[The Husbando Collector]

Lol, "Your kid is dying of cancer? Oh yeah, well my kid can't understand social cues!"

But seriously, the kid is an autist. He prob knows he doesn't have any friends other than Thomas the Tank Engine.

Or Barney the Dinosaur, or Pikachu, or dear God forbid- Sonic, or even worse, Sonichu.

 

[AngelOfNoMercy]

I think the mom ended up leaving the group. I think she assumed that a support group meant that people were going to send cards and gifts for her kid.

 

[TheWhiteRabbit]

Okay, yeah, you're right, but there's still SO many things that could go wrong with an autistic kid at Disney. Especially the one in Florida 'cause they have alligators (remember that kid that got munched on 'cause the parents were from Nebraska and didn't know?) and autistic kids are known to run away and be attracted to water.

It's more commonly called trisomy 18. It's a profound disability for certain, but a better diagnosis to get than the full-blown "that's not a disability, that's just being dead" seen in Jaxon/the Hartleys/etc. There's an organization called SOFT dedicated to T18 and similar disorders (e.g. Trisomy 13), and they have a very in-depth booklet on taking care of children with these disorders.

I wouldn't actually be surprised if the mother's reported abortion experiences are, at the very least, not that exaggerated. T18 and T13 exist in a complicated state where until very recently they had basement-level survival rates, and were generally coded as 'incompatible with life' and equal to something like anencephaly, but we've now found plenty of T18/T13 babies survive infancy and have outcomes more in line with 'severely disabled, but can live a happy life'. Practice hasn't necessarily caught up with this, so a lot of genetic counsellors will work from older information and counsel families that these conditions are even more severe than they usually are.

Still not a mild condition at all, though.

Speaking of Trisomy, did we ever make a thread for Krazy Kelly & Kayli’s Krusade?

 

[Lackadaisy]

Actually Rett is fucking terrifying because they are aware of how sad their situation is. It's better to think of it like an extreme form of Parkinsons than mental re.tardation.

Spoiler: Rett sperg

A hefty percentage of them have no mental impairment, in the sense that they can understand what is going on. They just can't coordinate meaningful movements so speaking, signing, writing, pointing, anything that looks like communication to most people is out of the question. Even breathing can be difficult and they have these crises where they can't coordinate the movement to breathe properly and will involuntarily hold their breath or hyperventilate.

However, it's been shown that if they're treated like other children their age and instead of like potatoes, they can understand spoken language as well as or almost as well as their non-Rett peers. Some of them even learn to "speak" through eye gaze computers, like this little girl, although these things are prohibitively expensive.

The exception is usually the girls who have comorbid problems that take their own toll on mental development. Most of the ones that are truly intellectually disabled present with microcephaly from birth or intractable epilepsy in infancy, whereas other girls will be born totally normal but their head growth will slow and seizures develop as they age.

The second terrifying thing about Rett is it is progressive and goes through stages. They start off normal and hit all their milestones, including learning to walk and speak, then start to decline sometime between their first and second birthday (some earlier). At first it looks like autism; they might wring their hands frequently and have difficulty with eye contact and they start to miss milestones. Sometime around age 3 they'll start to rapidly decline. Usually the first thing to happen is they lose all control of their hands. Their hands just do all sorts of crazy shit they can't control like they'll look like they're washing them over and over and over again or they'll clench their fists behind their back and not be able to move them. They lose language, they lose the ability to walk, the terrifying breathing crises start, they cry or scream inappropriately and uncontrollably, etc.

Then it levels out and, with seizure control and a lot of PT, can improve. This is the stage cute little Maggie up there is in. She has learned to balance and coordinatewell enough to surf and skateboard and is able to create increasingly complex sentences through her eye gaze computer. Her parents are kind of amazing human beings and I've been in contact with them a few times in the past through Rett events. When there's something she wants to do that isn't yet adapted for her impairments, her dad finds a way to make it happen.

However, barring some breakthrough (and there's some really promising shit happening in the research world right now so it could be on the horizon), even ones who make remarkable strides like girls with the Zapella Variant (who can regain language skills after the rapid destructive phase) don't live very long and continue to decline in age. They enter a slow regression stage after usually a prolonged stabilization/improvement phase. Most only live into their 30s, 40 at best. Many die very suddenly of cardiac arrest from arrhythmias or GI obstructions caused by failure of even involuntary movements.

And the third terrifying thing is it's a de novo mutation in almost every case, meaning it's not something parents can predict. On the plus side it means the odds of having two girls (and they're almost all girls because boys with the mutation tend to die instead) with Rett in the same family are slim. On the other hand, since the parents aren't carriers of the mutant gene it's not like they can decide not to have kids because they don't want to risk that they bring someone with this awful condition into the world.

Edit: Ah, fuck, I just checked out Maggie's dad and she's starting to regress again. Lost seizure control and can't coordinate eating and drinking anymore so she's schedule for a PEG. Fuck this disease in the eye socket.

That's seriously one of the most terrifying disorders I've ever heard of.

 

[Whatthefuck]

Or Barney the Dinosaur, or Pikachu, or dear God forbid- Sonic, or even worse, Sonichu.

How dare you! Sonichu is a saint. Patron saint of all spergs. Show some respect.

 

[The Husbando Collector]

How dare you! Sonichu is a saint. Patron saint of all spergs. Show some respect.

I am sorry. I shall do fifteen 'Hail Rosechus' to show my repentance..