T. Greg Doucette / Thomas Gregory Doucette / greg_doucette / TGDLaw / fsckemall / lawdevnull / TDot - Super Lawyer, Failed Politician, Captain of The Threadnought, Drowning in Debt

You can't just repeat things as a journalist. You have to exercise due diligence in ascertaining whether it's true or not. Even against a limited public figure, you still have to act without reckless disregard for the truth or falsity of claims that you adopt as your own.

Allegations by their very nature cannot be ascertained to be true or false, or they wouldn't be allegations. I'd also rather that journalists just report what a person says rather than the excessive editorializing and attempts to twist words by withholding context or through selective editing that is in my eyes shows far more reckless disregard for the truth.

Now you could argue that a journalist should be careful to identify that the statements that they report on are merely allegations and that they do not necessarily reflect their own views on the matter, or if they're writing a larger pieces (as opposed to issuing reports for an ongoing story) try to seek out and report on all sides of the story, and I'll certainly grant that Cuck Lightyear here is definitely not doing that at all.

I'd like it if journalists fit that ideal better, but at the end of the day they're humans too and I think you're perhaps holding them to too high a standard, in much the same way that police officers are harangued by some for not being able to fully assess a situation based on limited knowledge and tactically disarm a perpetrator within the few seconds it takes for a situation to escalate to a potential threat to the officers life. What you ask for would certainly be nice, I just don't think it's possible for 99.99% of the population.
 
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What you ask for would certainly be nice, I just don't think it's possible for 99.99% of the population.

I disagree, and in fact, 99.99% of the population manages to go through their lives without hurling around actionable defamation with complete disregard as to whether it's true or false. (At least not to the point of actually getting sued over it.) Even most journalists do that, most of the time. Libel lawsuits are actually not terribly common.
 
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I disagree, and in fact, 99.99% of the population manages to go through their lives without hurling around actionable defamation with complete disregard as to whether it's true or false. (At least not to the point of actually getting sued over it.) Even most journalists do that, most of the time. Libel lawsuits are actually not terribly common.

Perhaps our disagreement stems from a misunderstanding of what each of us is trying to say. My original opinion on the matter stems from my interpretation of that single tweet that @some_crazy linked to. Perhaps there's some additional context surrounding that, but I'd be hard pressed to view that as outright defamatory, particularly when you compare it to most of the stuff that Ron tweeted.

I'd interpret it as Greg explaining (his own interpretation of) what some source represents. Now in the broader context of everything else he's said, he certainly looks like much more of a scumbag asshole, but in isolation I wouldn't consider that tweet actionable. I'm obviously not a lawyer, but if I were on a jury and asked if that particular tweet crossed the line, I honestly can't see myself voting that way.

I think the only reason we don't see terribly many libel lawsuits is that they're hideously expensive and most people aren't worth suing anyway. They should really just bring back dueling so if nothing else you can demand satisfaction and cut them down like a dog in the street. Losers organs are donated so society benefits.
 
I'd interpret it as Greg explaining (his own interpretation of) what some source represents. Now in the broader context of everything else he's said, he certainly looks like much more of a scumbag asshole, but in isolation I wouldn't consider that tweet actionable. I'm obviously not a lawyer, but if I were on a jury and asked if that particular tweet crossed the line, I honestly can't see myself voting that way.

It certainly wouldn't be worth suing over that individual tweet, but it's in the context of everything else he's said, which is largely deliberate lying by someone who openly admits his reckless disregard for the truth and his deliberate refusal even to read the relevant documents before making shit up about them.
 
It certainly wouldn't be worth suing over that individual tweet, but it's in the context of everything else he's said, which is largely deliberate lying by someone who openly admits his reckless disregard for the truth and his deliberate refusal even to read the relevant documents before making shit up about them.

That's essentially an argument for suing Shane as well. I suppose he at least tries to read the documents for all the good it does him, but it's really no difference since he can't understand them at all.

But even in the context of everything, are either of those idiots worth dragging to court even if you had the money and nothing else to spend it on? I mean what are you going to get out of it other than the world's most haggard chair and a CPAP machine.
 
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Would this go here or in the douche baguette thread?

Cuz here’s the moron claiming Vic will have to pay the legal fees of the defense and lose (yet again)

And then replying to that same tweet posting a paste bin of comments showing how much damage the defense has been doing to Vic’s reputation For years behind his back

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138948693682458628?s=21

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138950626002518016?s=21

Edit to add: HOW EMBARRASSING nick.exe
 
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Would this go here or in the douche baguette thread?

Cuz here’s the moron claiming Vic will have to pay the legal fees of the defense and lose (yet again)

And then replying to that same tweet posting a paste bin of comments showing how much damage the defense has been doing to Vic’s reputation For years behind his back

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138948693682458628?s=21

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138950626002518016?s=21
Send a copy to Douchette's thread.
 
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Would this go here or in the douche baguette thread?

Cuz here’s the moron claiming Vic will have to pay the legal fees of the defense and lose (yet again)

And then replying to that same tweet posting a paste bin of comments showing how much damage the defense has been doing to Vic’s reputation For years behind his back

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138948693682458628?s=21

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138950626002518016?s=21

Edit to add: HOW EMBARRASSING nick.exe
Is there a reason you've chosen to be an exceptional individual and not archive these things?
 
Is there a reason you've chosen to be an exceptional individual and not archive these things?

EDIT: Newfags, oldfags and just fags, please archive your shit. It's a pain in the ass to look up this shit when you've already capped it.

Put this shit on your bookmark bar.
 
"Fraud" is a catch-all that encompasses a variety of swindles. Saying you need money for X that you're really going to use for Y is a form of fraud called obtaining property by false pretenses.

So is Mr. Doucette committing fraud by keeping his GoFundMe open then? He asked for $2,664 on April 18th. On April 23rd, he had raised around $8800 and reported that the equipment he requested was in his procession. He did not end his campaign, however, and continues to solicit donations to this very day. At present, the total amount he has raised is $9,410.

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Is there a reason you've chosen to be an exceptional individual and not archive these things?
Yes, insert I’m kind of exceptional individual Alex Jones meme here, because I don’t know how to archive things, in general or especially on mobile.

Edit: fuck bag spelling errors

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EDIT: Newfags, oldfags and just fags, please archive your shit. It's a pain in the ass to look up this shit when you've already capped it.

Put this shit on your bookmark bar.

Bookmarked
 
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here’s the moron claiming Vic will have to pay the legal fees of the defense and lose (yet again)

And then replying to that same tweet posting a paste bin of comments showing how much damage the defense has been doing to Vic’s reputation For years behind his back

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138948693682458628?s=21

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138950626002518016?s=21

HOW EMBARRASSING nick.exe

 
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Would this go here or in the douche baguette thread?

Cuz here’s the moron claiming Vic will have to pay the legal fees of the defense and lose (yet again)

And then replying to that same tweet posting a paste bin of comments showing how much damage the defense has been doing to Vic’s reputation For years behind his back

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138948693682458628?s=21

https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1138950626002518016?s=21

Edit to add: HOW EMBARRASSING nick.exe

Remember how Nick pointed out that most Attorney's live a Middle Class existence? This dude would appear to be so far below that threshold that he is approaching Marzgurl or Shane territory. I can't speak to his success rate as an Attorney as I honestly haven't found any real record of him. He seems to be more self promoting activist then attorney. But the one thing that you should keep in mind. Look at that marvelously arrogant claim about Vic paying out Attorney fees. It shows a few things regarding this idiot. The ONLY mechanism by which the defendants can recover Attorney's Fees in Texas would be through success at a TCPA filing. Which would be fairly piddly. MoRonica literally have no hope with TCPA as their case is more heavily leveraged in the TI. So the only Attorney's fees that could possibly be recovered are the ones spent up to around now. A couple of grand. Texas Law has no provisions for the defendants being awarded attorney fees at trial. You would think a "Super Lolyer" might have looked something up before making such claims about a state in which he is not licensed to practice. IDIOT!

Edit; Also note how the great and mighty Legal Eagle is harping on the Defamation. He has no idea the length breadth and shear power of the Texas TI statutes, that are the core element of the case against these 4 defendants.
 
So I looked up his linked in profile and he lists himself as the executive director of the North Carolina Small Practice Incubator and Collaboration Environment (NC SPICE). He lists his time in this position as 2012 to the present. He describes it as follows, "We are a group of legal professionals, educators, and community leaders, all dedicated to improving access to our court system with the help of attorneys in solo and small practice."

I tried to look up information about NC SPICE (TM). The first four links are for the NC Statewide Program for Infection Control and Epidemiology. (e.g. https://spice.unc.edu/ & https://www.aplushcc.com/classes/nc-spice/)

Then there's http://ncspice.com/ - A floral shop apparently called The Rose Barn

Then come a few restaurants and the NC lottery.

The first actual page referencing Doucette's NC Spice is on the second page of web results and directs to https://www.lawdevnull.com/tag/nc-spice/ - which is every page in his blog tagged with NC SPICE. There is a link to the NC SPICE website, which is (http://www.ncspice.org/) very amazingly Site Offline. The most recent blog post tagged with NC SPICE was in 2014.

He tells us, in part,

I’ve learned after writing this blog for almost 5 years now that I have -0- clue what the future is going to hold.

See, e.g., me thinking I might make it to Marine Corps OCS (nope), or me thinking I might become a prosecutor (negative), or my in-retrospect-absurdly-ambitious plans for NC SPICE (LOL).



The most recent post mentioning NC SPICE was in 2014 and in Jan 2014 he writes, "For a quick recap on the resolutions themselves, you can read the entry from a year ago today. The reasons for the failures are numerous, but in a nutshell: NC SPICE wasn’t approved for 501(c)(3) status until late in the year and is (temporarily) dead in the water, I stopped exercising and regained every. single. pound. I lost the year before,1 and the number I picked as a revenue target for my law firm in Year 1 was a wild guess with no relation to anything even vaguely resembling reality."

I get trying to start a 501c3 and being overly optimistic about it succeeding. I get having it fail. I get learning from the experience. Not sure I get having it on your linked in bio as if it were still active and you were actually accomplishing the things you mention in its description. (Oh, who am I kidding! I totally get that someone so addicted to feeling good about themselves that they tweet 400 times in a day for that heady dopamine rush would put misleading information in his life story).

Also interesting that he goes the extra step of adding that little TM after NC SPICE on his profile. Now, I may not understand searching for trademarks, so maybe someone out there can do a better job. I didn't find anything for NC SPICE on the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Is Doucette being less than accurate in representing the fact that he actually obtained a trademark for NC SPICE?
 
That's essentially an argument for suing Shane as well. I suppose he at least tries to read the documents for all the good it does him, but it's really no difference since he can't understand them at all.

I'm not arguing for suing either of them at the moment, and Shane almost certainly never. I'm just saying that depending on his intent, what he's said could be actionable.

So is Mr. Doucette committing fraud by keeping his GoFundMe open then? He asked for $2,664 on April 18th. On April 23rd, he had raised around $8800 and reported that the equipment he requested was in his procession. He did not end his campaign, however, and continues to solicit donations to this very day. At present, the total amount he has raised is $9,410.

By the uniquely personal definitions of fraud and wire fraud he has applied to the pro-Vic GFM, he has committed fraud and wire fraud and is a multiple federal felon. Luckily for him, although perhaps not for his reputation as a competent lawyer, his uniquely personal definitions of fraud and wire fraud are insane and wrong.
 
So is Mr. Doucette committing fraud by keeping his GoFundMe open then? He asked for $2,664 on April 18th. On April 23rd, he had raised around $8800 and reported that the equipment he requested was in his procession. He did not end his campaign, however, and continues to solicit donations to this very day. At present, the total amount he has raised is $9,410.

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I suppose you could argue that there could be unforeseeable costs involved with the machine. Both of my parents use one and I can tell you that they do have to make purchases of replacement parts from time to time, as well as purchasing distilled or iodized (I can't remember which) water for them.

Now, with that said, his situation is still far more questionable than Nick's in and he really shouldn't be casting stones in glass houses.
 
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