Megathread Insane Parents of "Transgender" Kids - Parents who push a transgender identity on their children

[remiem]

Horrible & sad story of a man in his 30s who got transed by his abusive parents as a teen. He sounds suicidal & talks about wishing to kill his parents and wants to publish something he has written about his suffering. Perhaps a suicide letter before killing his parents & himself?

r/detrans - MtF, transitioned in adolescence, "lived as a woman" for 17 years. I see no way out

453 votes and 93 comments so far on Reddit

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The most depressing thing aside from his situation is the people in the comments. Not being mean but ones hoping he will heal or not knowing what to say. What do you say? There's literally nothing that can be said in a situation like this. This child was trans'd and is now suffering actual dysphoria but you cannot easily walk back something that has been done to you for years and wrecked your body totally.

A lot of De-Trans is usually people who realized they've made the wrong choices, but they recognize it was them who made those choices. This poor soul had no say and was failed not just by his parents but by a movement that thinks Children can make such a decision, doctors who assisted in the process of butchering them, and media that pushes the idea that suicide will happen if you don't do this.

This idea of transgender children should be ridiculed as much as Anti-Vax because both of these ideas can cause irreparable harm to innocents all because a select few adults are touting incorrect facts to benefit themselves.

 

[Hummingbird]

The most depressing thing aside from his situation is the people in the comments. Not being mean but ones hoping he will heal or not knowing what to say. What do you say? There's literally nothing that can be said in a situation like this. This child was trans'd and is now suffering actual dysphoria but you cannot easily walk back something that has been done to you for years and wrecked your body totally.

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A lot of De-Trans is usually people who realized they've made the wrong choices, but they recognize it was them who made those choices. This poor soul had no say and was failed not just by his parents but by a movement that thinks Children can make such a decision, doctors who assisted in the process of butchering them, and media that pushes the idea that suicide will happen if you don't do this.

This idea of transgender children should be ridiculed as much as Anti-Vax because both of these ideas can cause irreparable harm to innocents all because a select few adults are touting incorrect facts to benefit themselves.

It makes me wonder how many of them truly end up regretting it, especially with how trendy its become.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Yesterday, a mіlk advert lead to me discovering that we apparently have a 16-year-old trans Youtube star, Viktoria Harryson:

In Viktoria's head

Viktoria Harrysson is sixteen years old and makes Youtube videos about gender identity and transsexualism. The goal with the channel is to encourage young people to dare to go their own way in life.

I am trans and have chosen to be open about it. But obviously, that doesn't mean all trans people want that. Everybody's path is different.

Being feminine and being trans are not the same thing, even if many people believe that. That's why we need to spread awareness on the topic.

Gender norms have no place at school! It should be a place where everybody can feel safe and respected.

It's difficult to know who you [note: he uses "en" instead of "man" which is the PC way of saying "one" in Swedish] are at the age of fifteen – and that's completely okay!

The dominant dairy production company in my region feature things like recipes and track race adverts on their packages, but Arla features trans teen Youtube stars on theirs.

TL;DR from various interviews: he was born as Viktor, came out as trans at the age of 10, has been on puberty blockers since the age of 13 and wants to get SRS at the age of 18. Last year, he was nominated for a Youtube award, Guldtuben, in the categories "Youtuber of the year" and "Youtube video of the year" because of the video "Runkar du?" (Do you jack off?) and won in the category "Inspiring message of the year". His mother, Anna, has always been very affirming and knew he was trans before even he did. Sometimes, she even shows up in his videos:

("My female friend touches me despite the fact that I like boys | I and my mom solve your problems")

His Youtube videos are pretty much what you would expect from a trans child make up channel: make up, hormones, answering intimate questions which would be seen as questionable if they were directed at a "cis" girl/boy and pranks. He also has a MtF BFF, Antonia, who realized he was trans when he watched a documentary with Jazz Jennings:

 

[Otterly]

Horrible & sad story of a man in his 30s who got transed by his abusive parents as a teen.

That was a difficult read. Ticks all the boxes: narc, MBP mother, awkward kid, gay. Would have been absolutely fine if someone had just said ‘it’s fine to wear eyeliner and be a bit camp. You be you. Need someone to talk to?’ But this whole thing is partly about ‘straightening out’ the kids who don’t fit. I mean ffs in the 80s and 90s we were getting there - just look at the pop stars of the era.

Don’t kill your parents. Don’t kill your self. Write that book. Expose the fuckers and tell the world all the shame and horror of what they did to you. Get a book deal and a film deal. Get a proper therapist - and LIVE. Sue them. Show the world what an insane, cruel, hideous ideology this is,

I was just reading yesterday (archive link if you’re interested http://archive.is/xlFcv about how Alzheimer’s patients (who are 2/3 female) possibly have an earlier trigger for Alzheimer’s starting due to hormonal changes around menopause. The scientist involved briefly mentions the issue of people transing in the context of ‘we have no clue what this for long term.’

And we don’t - but I’m certain that these people’s bodies are going to fall apart on them in ten, twenty years time, especially those who took Lupron or other blockers.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

"Runkar du?" (Do you jack off?)

He can't since gnrh agonists (drugs to block puberty) shrivel the genitals, destroy the sex drive & the ability to orgasm.

wants to get SRS at the age of 18

Remember, no puberty = small penis = bowel or stomach tissue has to be used. I love how countless of dumb males destroy their penises and expect to get an actual vagina. Do none of these guys even think about what they want vs. what's actually possible?

His mother, Anna, has always been very affirming and knew he was trans before even he did.

Nah his mother knew he was a fag and found a way to get the "daughter" she wanted.

That was a difficult read. Ticks all the boxes: narc, MBP mother, awkward kid, gay.

He is heterosexual but he was pressured to date men. He stopped dating women when the tiny rest of his sex drive finally disappeared in his 20s. Now he considers himself asexual. That's another issue early and older troons don't think about - hormone overdoses & dick butchering will eventually destroy your libido completely. Maybe not today or in 3 months but it will disappear.

 

[Muttnik]

That reddit post and the following comments legit was enough to get me a little weepy. The poor guy doesn't even leave his house anymore, gradually becoming more miserable and detached from people. That is profoundly tragic.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Yesterday, a mіlk advert lead to me discovering that we apparently have a 16-year-old trans Youtube star, Viktoria Harryson:
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TL;DR from various interviews: he was born as Viktor, came out as trans at the age of 10, has been on puberty blockers since the age of 13 and wants to get SRS at the age of 18. Last year, he was nominated for a Youtube award, Guldtuben, in the categories "Youtuber of the year" and "Youtube video of the year" because of the video "Runkar du?" (Do you jack off?) and won in the category "Inspiring message of the year". His mother, Anna, has always been very affirming and knew he was trans before even he did. Sometimes, she even shows up in his videos:
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("My female friend touches me despite the fact that I like boys | I and my mom solve your problems")

His Youtube videos are pretty much what you would expect from a trans child make up channel: make up, hormones, answering intimate questions which would be seen as questionable if they were directed at a "cis" girl/boy and pranks. He also has a MtF BFF, Antonia, who realized he was trans when he watched a documentary with Jazz Jennings:
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Hair metal, glam metal, come back and flood our wicked world! The kids can't take it anymore!

 

[AnOminous]

His mother, Anna, has always been very affirming and knew he was trans before even he did.

I.e. his mother was pathetic and worthless and decided to troon him out for attention.

 

[Positron]

I read that with a mix of complete horror and utter pity for the OP. The misery he feels and the sense of complete hopelessness which fills his life really comes across in the whole post. His Mum had element of MBP as well and I really do think this comes into play in troon supporting parents far, far more than people care to think about.

As dysfunctional as his family was, his tragedy wouldn't have happened without the help from quacks and genital butchers.

 

[PantsOfDesire]

It makes me wonder how many of them truly end up regretting it, especially with how trendy its become.

Probably far more than we’ll ever know of. Those who speak out publicly will be savaged as if they were apostate Scientologists. They are encouraged to fixate on troonery being their most salient source of identity. It follows that much of their social life will be at risk. The media will largely ignore them, as it’d be transphobic to entertain their stories. They’ll also have a shattered identity - neither man nor woman. They will have damaged their health in addition to the psychological issues caused by their experiences.

It’s no wonder we hear so few voices. Give it a decade for the fad to give way to the Lovecraftian horror of these people. Those that don’t kill themselves may be in large enough numbers to be noticed by the mainstream.

 

[AnOminous]

The media will largely ignore them, as it’d be transphobic to entertain their stories.

The media will never ignore a mass shooter with a high body count.

 

[Smoothie Queen]

Probably far more than we’ll ever know of. Those who speak out publicly will be savaged as if they were apostate Scientologists. They are encouraged to fixate on troonery being their most salient source of identity. It follows that much of their social life will be at risk. The media will largely ignore them, as it’d be transphobic to entertain their stories. They’ll also have a shattered identity - neither man nor woman. They will have damaged their health in addition to the psychological issues caused by their experiences.

Basically, yeah. I've read stories from detransitioners who basically say they've been completely ostracized from the entire LGBT community, especially the T part, even if they're (almost always) gay or lesbian. No one will take their calls. They're told they were just "never trans at all" and are evil cis oppressors now. It's so nasty.

I hope they all pursue legal cases against their homophobic nutcase parents the minute they're legally and mentally/emotionally up to it, for medical abuse. Is that something they could do? I really hope it is.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Basically, yeah. I've read stories from detransitioners who basically say they've been completely ostracized from the entire LGBT community, especially the T part, even if they're (almost always) gay or lesbian. No one will take their calls. They're told they were just "never trans at all" and are evil cis oppressors now. It's so nasty.

I hope they all pursue legal cases against their homophobic nutcase parents the minute they're legally and mentally/emotionally up to it, for medical abuse. Is that something they could do? I really hope it is.

Unpersoning de-transitioners was something brought up in the Swedish journalistic documentary "Tranståget".

Here it is subtitled in English, it's good.

Uppdrag granskning - The trans train

The increase of teenage girls with gender dysphoria worry parents and health care staff in several countries - because of the lack of research on the new group of patients. What if the irreversible decision to undergo a gender correction is a mistake?

www.svtplay.se

 

[Blarmination]

Unpersoning de-transitioners was something brought up in the Swedish journalistic documentary "Tranståget".

Here it is subtitled in English, it's good.

Uppdrag granskning - The trans train

The increase of teenage girls with gender dysphoria worry parents and health care staff in several countries - because of the lack of research on the new group of patients. What if the irreversible decision to undergo a gender correction is a mistake?

www.svtplay.se

Could anyone tell me if it’s normal for T to masculinize the face like it did to the girl in that documentary, or does that only happen if you start on T super young? I’ve known a couple trans guys and the ones that passed all had baby faces.

 

[Smoothie Queen]

Could anyone tell me if it’s normal for T to masculinize the face like it did to the girl in that documentary, or does that only happen if you start on T super young? I’ve known a couple trans guys and the ones that passed all had baby faces.

I'm pretty sure that kind of thing only happens if you start T very young. I didn't watch the documentary (haven't had time) but also if they went from "puberty blockers" straight to testosterone that would be a huge factor since they would never go through a natural puberty and would only really have the influence of the artificial cross-sex hormones to shape their features.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Could anyone tell me if it’s normal for T to masculinize the face like it did to the girl in that documentary, or does that only happen if you start on T super young? I’ve known a couple trans guys and the ones that passed all had baby faces.

You're thinking of the Finnish woman that is a student at a university?

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I'm pretty sure that kind of thing only happens if you start T very young. I didn't watch the documentary (haven't had time) but also if they went from "puberty blockers" straight to testosterone that would be a huge factor since they would never go through a natural puberty and would only really have the influence of the artificial cross-sex hormones to shape their features.

Yeah, you go through some kind of semi-male puberty when you start T at an early age.

tbh, the standard of care for transing kids in the US (and the UK, I think) is pretty fucked up. It's a double whammy since they just keep you on GnRH agonists but not cross-sex hormones. So you basically don't go through puberty at all. This causes a whole shitload of medical issues. It'd be better just to start them on cross-sex hormones immediately so their bones don't start trying to dissolve themselves.

Or you could just not trans your kid out at all. That works too.

 

[Smoothie Queen]

Yeah, you go through some kind of semi-male puberty when you start T at an early age.

tbh, the standard of care for transing kids in the US (and the UK, I think) is pretty fucked up. It's a double whammy since they just keep you on GnRH agonists but not cross-sex hormones. So you basically don't go through puberty at all. This causes a whole shitload of medical issues. It'd be better just to start them on cross-sex hormones immediately so their bones don't start trying to dissolve themselves.

Or you could just not trans your kid out at all. That works too.

Medically speaking, they shouldn't be doing any of this shit. GnRH agonists we know have horrible and serious side effects that can ruin your entire life (osteoporosis, chronic fatigue conditions, "brittle bone" like conditions, etc), and doctors literally have no idea what the health effects of taking cross-sex hormones from a young age will be, or what the health effects of skipping puberty with GnRH agonists to go straight to exogenous cross-sex hormones will be (other than total, permanent, irreversible sterility), though current indications according to the experts include sexual dysfunction, lower IQ, and emotional/mental health problems.

We know that in adults taking exogenous cross-sex hormones, it has serious health risks (for example, women who take testosterone are at an incredibly high risk for sexual dysfunction / painful sex, vaginal and uterine atrophy, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and many other conditions, while men who take estrogen are at a significantly greater risk of certain cancers, heart attacks, and sexual dysfunction / inability to become or remain aroused), so you know that the impact on children has to be much more severe, and the risks grow the longer you're taking the hormones, to the point that females who take testosterone are advised to have a hysterectomy within (iirc) six years of starting on the hormones.

And that's not even getting started on the health risks of the multiple surgeries these kids are expected to go through, the fact that they cannot possibly understand the risks because they're children and the trans community and the doctors all obfuscate them to the point that grown, adult trans-identifying people don't know what to expect from surgeries or medications they're on, and so many other problems with this shit on every possible level.

IMO transing children is child abuse, plain and simple. It's medicalized abuse of children. Even if they ask for it, if you give in and allow your child to transition you're no better than the opportunistic homophobes who see transitioning their gender non-conforming kids as a great way to trans away the gay. (Of course, I should add a caveat that I acknowledge there's nothing parents can do in some places, like the UK, where children can and do obtain exogenous hormones illegally or without parental permission and are allowed to trans themselves at school without their parents even being informed.) The whole idea of transitioning children goes against many, many medical ethics rules. It infuriates me.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

It'd be better just to start them on cross-sex hormones immediately

Because cross sex hormones don't cause medical issues

 

[NoFeline]

Because cross sex hormones don't cause medical issues

They do, but they cause a lot less harm (as far as we can tell) compared to blockers.

Women fear drug they used to halt puberty led to health problems

Despite questions about Lupron’s lasting side effects and minimal study into its safety, the FDA sped approval of the drug to market.

www.pbs.org

I don't know about you but I think I'd rather be a funny looking androgyne than a cripple.