Megathread Insane Parents of "Transgender" Kids - Parents who push a transgender identity on their children

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Because cross sex hormones don't cause medical issues

It's risk reduction. When a patient is an adolescent and they want to transition then they fixate on it and can't be talked out of it (because teenagers.)

The complications of not having any gonadic sex hormones at all are well-known and frankly horrifying. Your bones have a significant amount of hormone receptors in them. When they're not getting hormones, they literally begin to disintegrate.

I don't support transitioning kids at all but it would really be better for them to be put on cross-sex hormones at an early age instead of just hitting them with the GnRH agonist. There's a bunch of misinformation out there from trans activists about how Lupron is reversible. That's not true, because you're basically shaving a month off of puberty whenever you get the shot. How anyone could think that's good or reversible...I don't know.
 
Cross sex hormones AREN'T less harmful. Whaf the fuck??


This is what you want to poison young children with.
 
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Cross sex hormones AREN'T less harmful. Whaf the fuck??

Depends on what you're prescribed. IM estradiol valerate doesn't share the same DVT risk as oral estrogen. First-pass liver metabolism seems to be the culprit for increased clotting risk. There are a bunch of estrogen receptors in the portal vein.

Some doctors still prescribe OCs for transitioning and this is really shitty and bad and you're likely gonna die from a blood clot when you're taking those.

I'm just being honest.
 
It's risk reduction. When a patient is an adolescent and they want to transition then they fixate on it and can't be talked out of it (because teenagers.)

The complications of not having any gonadic sex hormones at all are well-known and frankly horrifying. Your bones have a significant amount of hormone receptors in them. When they're not getting hormones, they literally begin to disintegrate.

I don't support transitioning kids at all but it would really be better for them to be put on cross-sex hormones at an early age instead of just hitting them with the GnRH agonist. There's a bunch of misinformation out there from trans activists about how Lupron is reversible. That's not true, because you're basically shaving a month off of puberty whenever you get the shot. How anyone could think that's good or reversible...I don't know.
The problem with lupron isn't really the puberty cessation by itself, its that the drug attaches to all the sex hormone receptors in the body (bones, brain, gonad, etc). It blocks puberty because the receptors are all filled up with lupron, it isn't the same as someone who got castrated. The drug seems to cause problems where it attaches to the receptors, in addition to issues caused by lack of puberty.
 
Depends on what you're prescribed. IM estradiol valerate doesn't share the same DVT risk as oral estrogen. First-pass liver metabolism seems to be the culprit for increased clotting risk. There are a bunch of estrogen receptors in the portal vein.

Some doctors still prescribe OCs for transitioning and this is really shitty and bad and you're likely gonna die from a blood clot when you're taking those.

I'm just being honest.

At least we can agree on anything unnatural not having natural effects on the body. Especially if it is meant to try to bend a Y to an X or the other way around.
 
The more I read about this, the more it makes me want to smack these people who are glorifying a mental disorder and trying to make transitioning look harmless and easy to do.

I guess this after reading this you want to smack these child abusers even harder:


Vermont opens door for gender-affirming surgery for transgender youth

Vermont health insurance regulators are planning to tweak Medicaid rules so transgender youth no longer have to wait until age 21 to seek gender-affirming surgery.

The changes are aimed at removing barriers for people seeking a suite of surgeries in order to alleviate gender dysphoria, a conflict between a person's gender identity and physical gender, said Nissa James, policy director for the Department of Vermont Health Access.
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Gender-affirming surgeries covered by Medicaid include 16 types of genital surgery, as well as breast augmentation or mastectomy, a surgery that removes the whole breast.

The new rule, proposed at the end of May, eliminates an age minimum and allows youths under 18 to get surgeries with informed consent from a parent or guardian.

Nearly a quarter of all Vermonters, and 50 percent of Vermonters under the age of 18, rely on Medicaid for health insurance, according to the Department of Health.

A medical necessity
The changes would be "enormously positive" for transgender people in Vermont, especially individuals in their late teens, said Dr. Rachel Inker, who runs the Transgender Health Clinic at the Community Health Centers of Burlington.

"Having young people have to wait until they were 21 just didn't really make any sense," Inker said.

A chart taken from the 2017 Youth Risk Behavior Survey shows that LGBT students are four times as likely as their peers to engage in self harm.
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As a provider, Inker sees surgery as medically necessary for the people who want it, she said.

The choice to have surgery is a personal one that should be explored in every age group, Inker said, although people who are young enough can be given puberty-blocking treatments to inhibit development of secondary sex characteristics like breasts or facial hair.

Older teens may have already developed those characteristics, Inker said, and face going to college or getting a job while their gender identity and gender presentation are mismatched.

She cited young transgender men wishing to get top surgery to remove breast tissue as an example of the kind of procedures commonly requested by teenagers between 16 and 18.

Life-saving
These surgeries are life-saving, said Dana Kaplan, executive director of Outright Vermont, an organization that supports LGBTQ youth.

Gender identity develops as young as three, he said.

"Here is an opportunity to say you can live the life that is authentically yours," he said. "Why would we get in the way of that?"

A "staggering" percentage of transgender and non-binary youth have reported considering suicide, Kaplan said. Having access to medical care that affirms their identity can save young people years of the distress caused by living in a body conflicting with their gender identity.

"When a kid gets to the point where they say 'I really, really need this to be comfortable in my body' — again, why would we get in the way of that?" he said.

The change would only apply to Medicaid, but Kaplan said Medicaid could set a precedent for other providers.

Informed consent
The new rules would drop the minimum hormone therapy requirement for genital surgeries from two years to one year. Hormone therapy would no longer be a requirement for breast-removal surgery.

The rules also reduce some of the requirements to get surgery covered, like the need to have letters of support from two psychiatrists. The new rules ask for a mental health provider and a medical provider to evaluate the procedures as medically necessary.

Patients of every age must submit paperwork documenting that they give informed consent. For people under the age of 18, their parents or guardians must give informed consent.

Next steps
The Medicaid Policy Unit is accepting public comment about the proposed changes through July 17. Comments can be emailed to AHS.MedicaidPolicy@Vermont.gov.

Regulators will file a final version of the rule after the public comment period. The Legislative Committee on Administrative Rules will then review the proposal, hold a hearing and vote on whether to put it into effect.

The new rule, proposed at the end of May, eliminates an age minimum and allows youths under 18 to get surgeries with informed consent from a parent or guardian.

Remember that THAILAND (!!) banned genital surgeries for youths under 18 because the regret rate was huge.


Thai gay rights campaigner Nathee Teerarojanapong said the greater legal protections are necessary to guard against gender swaps that too often backfire on those who make an irreversible choice.

"I got so many calls where they said they are so sorry that they did a sex change," says Nathee. "They make a big mistake and they want to come back and be the same. But they cannot!"

As well as the psychological effects of a sex-change and the recovery from surgery, there are also side effects from the hormones that must be taken to hasten the transformation from male to female that can include hot flushes, tiredness, weight gain and loss of muscle and libido.

This is going to destroy so many lives & bodies
 
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I guess this after reading this you want to smack these child abusers even harder:






Remember that THAILAND (!!) banned genital surgeries for youths under 18 because the regret rate was huge.




This is going to destroy so many lives & bodies
The lawsuits this shit causes are going to be the stuff of legends.
 
I guess this after reading this you want to smack these child abusers even harder:






Remember that THAILAND (!!) banned genital surgeries for youths under 18 because the regret rate was huge.




This is going to destroy so many lives & bodies

This is absolutely horrifying. Those poor kids, fucking hell.

Yeah, sure, give kids access to major life-changing surgeries when they're far too young to understand the consequences, which often include lifelong medical issues! Sounds like a great idea! But tattoos? They're far too young to commit to tattoos! They might regret them!

As someone who lived in Vermont for a bunch of years, I can't say this strongly enough: Fuck that shithole of a state. The poverty and lack of jobs they've got going on in the Northern part of that state, and legalizing the medicalized abuse of children (by their parents, by themselves, by their medical professionals) is what they focus on? I can't imagine they don't have better things to be doing.

But by all means, guys, make sure little Ayden can cut her breasts off and experience all of the "fun" side effects (like nerve pain, nerve damage, numbness, nipples falling off (I wish I was kidding), lifelong scars, all that) before she's legally allowed to drink alcohol. That makes sense and definitely isn't a serious abuse of governmental power to the benefit of child abusers and the medical professionals who profit off of them.
 
This is absolutely horrifying. Those poor kids, fucking hell.

Yeah, sure, give kids access to major life-changing surgeries when they're far too young to understand the consequences, which often include lifelong medical issues! Sounds like a great idea! But tattoos? They're far too young to commit to tattoos! They might regret them!

As someone who lived in Vermont for a bunch of years, I can't say this strongly enough: Fuck that shithole of a state. The poverty and lack of jobs they've got going on in the Northern part of that state, and legalizing the medicalized abuse of children (by their parents, by themselves, by their medical professionals) is what they focus on? I can't imagine they don't have better things to be doing.

But by all means, guys, make sure little Ayden can cut her breasts off and experience all of the "fun" side effects (like nerve pain, nerve damage, numbness, nipples falling off (I wish I was kidding), lifelong scars, all that) before she's legally allowed to drink alcohol. That makes sense and definitely isn't a serious abuse of governmental power to the benefit of child abusers and the medical professionals who profit off of them.
That's why I said this shit is going to create malpractice lawsuits out the ass in a decade if it passes when these kids are all grown up and feel the consequences of their parents handing them over to Dr. Frankenstein.
 
That's why I said this shit is going to create malpractice lawsuits out the ass in a decade if it passes when these kids are all grown up and feel the consequences of their parents handing them over to Dr. Frankenstein.

Oh, it definitely will. It'll pile up nicely with all the malpractice suits from what they're already doing to kids, like putting them on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, to say nothing of the potential abuse allegations for things like coercing your child into changing their name and parading around in skirts or making them wear tiny little silicone penises in their toddler shorts and making a mockery of them because you were afraid they might be gay.

Studies show that without intervention, 80-90% of kids who show signs of gender dysphoria would grow up to be happy, healthy gay and lesbian adults (and some of the remaining 10-20% would grow up to be happy, healthy bisexual or straight adults). These days none of them will grow up happy or healthy, because their parents tried to pray away the gay with hormones and surgeries. It's so fucking tragic and frustrating.
 
Oh, it definitely will. It'll pile up nicely with all the malpractice suits from what they're already doing to kids, like putting them on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, to say nothing of the potential abuse allegations for things like coercing your child into changing their name and parading around in skirts or making them wear tiny little silicone penises in their toddler shorts and making a mockery of them because you were afraid they might be gay.

Studies show that without intervention, 80-90% of kids who show signs of gender dysphoria would grow up to be happy, healthy gay and lesbian adults (and some of the remaining 10-20% would grow up to be happy, healthy bisexual or straight adults). These days none of them will grow up happy or healthy, because their parents tried to pray away the gay with hormones and surgeries. It's so fucking tragic and frustrating.
This shit really is just gay conversion therapy painted blue isn't it?

Only we can add destroyed bodies and sex drives on top of mental stress. To say nothing of the effects on the heart and other organs these "hormones" have.
 
This shit really is just gay conversion therapy painted blue isn't it?

Only we can add destroyed bodies and sex drives on top of mental stress. To say nothing of the effects on the heart and other organs these "hormones" have.
It's also eugenics, considering how many transgender people are either autistic or mentally ill. I feel sympathetic to a lot of the early 20s autistic troons, even though they're adults, because they're vulnerable, and they've been preyed upon. Imagine you're a guy who has always felt out of place, made fun of for being bad at sports, who struggles to make friends....and then meets a group of people who give an answer to all of your problems and will accept you unconditionally. And you can't tell when people are being duplicitous because you have a developmental disorder. Or you have Borderline Personality Disorder because you were sexually abused as a child and your sense of identity is constantly shifting, and then you get lured into transgenderism.
 
This shit really is just gay conversion therapy painted blue isn't it?

Only we can add destroyed bodies and sex drives on top of mental stress. To say nothing of the effects on the heart and other organs these "hormones" have.

It absolutely is.

Unfortunately, that's not uncommon to conversion therapy. Electro-shock, cross-sex hormones, hurting the gay/lesbian person while they looked at nude photos of the same sex until they were incapable of arousal, genital mutilation, etc. have all historically been popular "treatments" for homosexuality. This is just more of the same. Remember that Alan Turing's punishment for being gay was being forced onto cross-sex hormones, and he killed himself because of the side effects.

It's also eugenics, considering how many transgender people are either autistic or mentally ill. I feel sympathetic to a lot of the early 20s autistic troons, even though they're adults, because they're vulnerable, and they've been preyed upon. Imagine you're a guy who has always felt out of place, made fun of for being bad at sports, who struggles to make friends....and then meets a group of people who give an answer to all of your problems and will accept you unconditionally. And you can't tell when people are being duplicitous because you have a developmental disorder. Or you have Borderline Personality Disorder because you were sexually abused as a child and your sense of identity is constantly shifting, and then you get lured into transgenderism.

Yup. It's a mix of the two in a lot of cases, really, because autistic people tend to be more gender non-conforming (due to inability to understand the complicated and demanding rules of gendered clothing and behavior), and childhood gender non-conformity is often a sign of homosexuality or bisexuality (it's even been shown that degree of gender non-conformity can possibly indicate whether a child is gay, straight or bisexual, which is really fascinating). So a lot of parents - and increasingly a lot of medical professionals, educators and even peers! - see autistic children being gender non-conforming (because they don't understand how to perform gender) as potentially gay or lesbian and pressure or even force them to transition as a result. And a vulnerable autistic kid isn't going to be savvy enough to understand that these people are being homophobic and being pushed towards transition because of their gender non-conformity, so it's easier for them to fall victim to the pressure and decide to go along with it.

Of course there are also a lot of cases of autistic and mentally ill people deciding on their own that they're transgender because of their inability to fit into gendered stereotypes / gender roles, identity issues, etc. which is also incredibly tragic and horrible.

I've heard so many stories of young, autistic women being pressured to transition - really any individual who is gender non-conforming is targeted. I've seen and heard of and read stories by men and women who talk about being endlessly pressured to transition, asked their pronouns over and over again as if they just can't be a woman or a man dressed like that or with that haircut, I even read about one young lesbian girl whose friends at school refused to call her by her own name and female pronouns - they made her up a "gender neutral" name and used they/them pronouns for her against her will because she had short hair and liked wearing pants and had crushes on girls. It's ludicrous. It's all just fucking insane.
 
This shit really is just gay conversion therapy painted blue isn't it?
During the Mermaids Charity stream by Hhbomberguy I heard quite a bit of the phrase "Spay the Gay Away"

Apparently at some point the founder admitted that she transed her boy because she feared he would turn out gay. Their public twitter account had been prompted for a definition of transgender, and in this included homosexuality ("fancying the same sex"). People trying to point this out and urge people to donate to different trans charities were attacked with accusations of transphobia and wanting children to commit suicide. Really depressing reading people make so many excuses for why in the name of god their official twitter would equate gay with trans, including "What if the person running the account was new?" -- As if any organization worth donating to would let someone who doesn't even understand the basics of their philosophy touch their public image.
 
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More craziness from the Affirmative parents/Parents of transgender kids support group. This time, 4thwavenow focuses on FTM surgeon Beverly Fischer in Baltimore, who is currently offering a $750 discount on double mastectomies booked during Pride month and has no qualms performing top surgeries on twelve-year-olds. https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1142550239477452800 (https://archive.li/ajDUC)
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Even some of the other lunatics in this group thought removing a twelve-year-olds breasts was a little bit too much, but the OP begs to differ. "THIS IS A HARMFUL COMMENT"
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""If you had top surgery with Dr. Fischer, tag photos of your chest"
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Both in the parents group and on the r/ask_transgender subreddit https://archive.li/R8QiZ, she is promoted as somebody who will perform surgeries on fourteen-year-olds (the Redditor also says that "There are no rules or laws in the US about transition" as if that's a good thing):
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"My son and two friends"
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Your bones have a significant amount of hormone receptors in them. When they're not getting hormones, they literally begin to disintegrate.

About half the adult bone mass is laid down during puberty, so the bones are hit with a double whammy. They’re not depositing the mass needed AND the natural turnover is affected.

Apparently at some point the founder admitted that she transed her boy because she feared he would turn out gay.

That tweet would be explosive.


"If you had top surgery with Dr. Fischer, tag photos of your chest"

Urgh. Top surgery. It’s a bilateral mastectomy. It’s major, awful surgery with a high side effect and complication rate. I guess young girls aren’t seeing their peer group at an age when they’re starting to get breast cancer because by god, if you did you’d run screaming.

The medical practitioners and structures enabling this are guilty of child abuse.
 
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