Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Oh yeah, I saw the Widenheft thing. As much as I dislike Senpai for some of his stuff, I think it's always stupid to strike somebody's video as that's basically going after their money. And guess what, it brings more attention and views since it pisses people off and they want to actually learn about it. I don't understand why people can't just go and ask if they are willing to unlisted or private the video in a PM or something. If they say no, there's not much you can really do and it's not like they can make a video chimping you out for asking nicely. Am I crazy or something for even suggesting trying that first?

The internet treats censorship as damage and routes around it.
 
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I mean, just this year he's representing two anime voice actors, an anime con, and a tabletop game company. The nerddom train has no brakes.
And it's probably not going to stop anytime soon, Ty right now has a Lot of momentum going for him.

He has proven with the Vic stuff that he can get things done, he has the manpower and the presence to handle public cases, he is also someone with an apparently solid moral compass. This means that any person that may be victim of overzealous psycopants would be able to get sympatethic legal counsel.

That is another difference between the Lolyers and Nick and Ty, The lolyers got into this half-assed, only thing they would get from this is mockery and platitudes from the crazies in Twitter. Nick is getting a bump in his audience and Ty is gonna get any clients with similar conditions to Nick.

Another important thing is that as far as things go, Vic already won. Unless clear and solid evidence of Vic harassing a number of people comes to light, which it won't because Kick Vic already proved their selfcontrol is shit, the people that support Vic won't stop supporting him even if Vic doesn't get an overwhelming victory in court.

Yes some people may still be against him but cons can't ban him without expecting Vic to find other venues, and unlike Monica, Vic has the numbers to back him going somewhere else.
 
feigning neutrality? I don't remember him ever saying anything even implying he was neutral. He is very adamantly pro-Vic and against MoRon.
He's outright stated that he hates the current defendants and co, hopes they all lose and laughed his arse off that he's helped to completely bury them for years to come.
This is a perfect example of things I've said elsewhere to some KV people in an (obviously futile) effort to make them see how bad this whole "believe all victims" bullshit is. If what has been done to Vic was done to someone they loved, someone they were related to, someone they were married to...would they be OK believing all victims or would they want more concrete evidence to corroborate the "he/she did X" story?

That Sarah cannot see the blatant hypocrisy in her statements is...exceptional.
Drexel likes to bring up that woman leader of the metoo movement dropping out and pulling a complete 180 once her son got accused. Listen and believe all wahmen, unless they accuse my family.
 
Could this guy be any more of a stereotypical New York, big city, elitist lawyer?
I mentioned not long ago the elitist attitude Houston and Dallas lawyers often have for smaller town Texas lawyers and how wonderful it was to watch them get absolutely destroyed by people they had dismissed as hayseed hicks. Cohen is going to be shocked and appalled when Texas law doesn't bend to his Big City superiority complex. What kinds of assholes do this? It's one thing to speculate on law as laypeople on a shitposting site but Cohen and Doucette have no idea what is happening with this case, have no inroads into the actual proceedings the way Nick does, and yet are offering opinions like they know what they are talking about. It's been a long while since I have seen hubris this staggering. The shocking idiocy of MoRonica doesn't come close for me because they are both idiots whose life work lies outside the legal system. They don't know any better. Cohen and Doucette should.

And when they are proven wrong it won't be because they misunderstood or misrepresented Texas law. It will be because racism/sexism/cronyism/good ol' boy networks and on and on. Never underestimate the capacity elitists have for painting themselves the victim when their inflated sense of ego doesn't hold sway.

I wonder what bullshit Sarah will try to pull after her brother gets a guilty verdict.
Like her "oh he accidently downloaded it from a torrent" won't really fly once he's guilty
Oh, it's far better than that, my friend. Sarah's idiot brother was not caught because he downloaded the films - he was caught because the fucker actually seeded the disgusting films to torrents. He was brought to police attention because he was the source of those films, not some hapless downloader who just wanted a copy of the Lion King and ended up with graphic child porn instead. So according to Sarah, he bought used components to build a computer, did not notice the child porn on the used hard drive, and somehow seeded it to torrents without knowing he was doing it.

Yeah. No wonder she's focusing on Vic.
 
He's outright stated that he hates the current defendants and co, hopes they all lose and laughed his arse off that he's helped to completely bury them for years to come.

He's literally gone on 20 minute long rants about how they're absolute utter scum and he detests them and wants to see them lose utterly.

Anyone who claims he pretends to be anything other than an open partisan is just a flat out liar, and exactly the kind of scum he righteously denounces in his righteous philippics.

And when they are proven wrong it won't be because they misunderstood or misrepresented Texas law.

There's nothing Texas-specific about the law in these cases that would require more than minimal effort to understand by anyone competent. Even a layperson could understand it with a bit of reading and having a brain larger than a walnut. These fuckers are just lazy and stupid and arrogant and don't even care to acquaint themselves with the factual background, and 90% of the law is the facts. The other 10% is just how you describe them.
 
He's outright stated that he hates the current defendants and co, hopes they all lose and laughed his arse off that he's helped to completely bury them for years to come.
Drexel likes to bring up that woman leader of the metoo movement dropping out and pulling a complete 180 once her son got accused. Listen and believe all wahmen, unless they accuse my family.
There is also the pedophilic piece of shit that was Antony Bourdain's wife. Also a Metoo supporter.

Edit. Correction ephebophile.
 
Lol, some people suggested Brianna Beard gift ol' Ty with a daki.

In her words, she's not sure what her mom will think of that.

Found some he might like
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If I had to guess, he regularly lurks here and notices we post every time he tweets one of these, and it tickles him jimmies enough to keep on doing it, despite nobody else really paying attention to him.

Come on over to the Farms, Penguin. It worked wonders for Shane.
Yeah and I still dont understand why we give so much attention to the guy. I'm tired of seeing him so much in here.

"But we archive and laugh at everything lawlllzl!" Fuck that. He's pointless, archiving him is pointless, talking about him is pointless, hell even laughing at him is pointless. It's almost obssessive the lengths people are going to archive and talk about him "just for the fuck of it".

Just let him go, guys...There are other, more important speds to talk about.
 
Yeah and I still dont understand why we give so much attention to the guy. I'm tired of seeing him so much in here.

We don't. Until we do. @Army Burger has a reason for posting these things and nobody has to respond to them. He should keep posting them. It might be nice to have a tag the poster can put on these so they can specifically be ignored, but until then, just cope with it for Christ's sake.
 
Hello, fellow Kiwis!

I apologize for the absence, but I was lurking the threads while I was on a six-day vacation.
Nevertheless, I would like to thank @Jub-Jub for working the tl;dr posts in the other thread.
I still have A LOT of things I need to to catch up with, though.
Starting with this:
Mr. Erick, you had 50 days, I repeat: 50 DAYS, to gather all related materials requested by BHBH for discovery.
If your tactic is to get the judge assmad at you, I guess its working.
Not sure how this will help you in the end, though.

Now I am wondering if Johnson and Volney will live up to the Super Lawyer expectations Erick, Cohen, and The Douche have exemplified.
If so, then this will be a lawsuit that will be talked about in legal circles for years to come.
 
I think something magical has happened, and I'd like to present it as a "what if"

First, Casey underestimated the autistic fortitude of his clients. He went into this assured they had proof and binders full of women. These people were whipped into a frenzy. Casey was pretty sure Vic would back off when the depositions started, or he'd cave at the mention of evidence.

That's why he was using generic responses and easy reference material at first. This was minimum effort maximum payment. He was pretty sure the case would be over before discovery.

Fast forward to the deposition hearing, Casey is now in need of the evidence his clients have and he knows Vic isn't quitting. Citations from his early documents now point to boards that no longer exist. Soye gives a list of at most 5 people besides Monica, all with the assurance that they want their story heard.

Casey approaches these people, and gets a lukewarm response. Let's say half of them don't have cold feet at this point. He has at most 2 women willing to go forward. But they want paid and total confidentiality.

I think if Beard gets his wish, the narrative these women have been willing to back will fall apart. None of them are willing to become infamous or lie under oath. The 'everything public' line already has them nervous.

This was supposed to be a slam dunk for Casey. Too bad he got human soy as clients

I mentioned not long ago the elitist attitude Houston and Dallas lawyers often have for smaller town Texas lawyers and how wonderful it was to watch them get absolutely destroyed by people they had dismissed as hayseed hicks. Cohen is going to be shocked and appalled when Texas law doesn't bend to his Big City superiority complex. What kinds of assholes do this? It's one thing to speculate on law as laypeople on a shitposting site but Cohen and Doucette have no idea what is happening with this case, have no inroads into the actual proceedings the way Nick does, and yet are offering opinions like they know what they are talking about. It's been a long while since I have seen hubris this staggering. The shocking idiocy of MoRonica doesn't come close for me because they are both idiots whose life work lies outside the legal system. They don't know any better. Cohen and Doucette should.

And when they are proven wrong it won't be because they misunderstood or misrepresented Texas law. It will be because racism/sexism/cronyism/good ol' boy networks and on and on. Never underestimate the capacity elitists have for painting themselves the victim when their inflated sense of ego doesn't hold sway.


Oh, it's far better than that, my friend. Sarah's idiot brother was not caught because he downloaded the films - he was caught because the fucker actually seeded the disgusting films to torrents. He was brought to police attention because he was the source of those films, not some hapless downloader who just wanted a copy of the Lion King and ended up with graphic child porn instead. So according to Sarah, he bought used components to build a computer, did not notice the child porn on the used hard drive, and somehow seeded it to torrents without knowing he was doing it.

Yeah. No wonder she's focusing on Vic.
Good observation! Being from the DFW, and working with the legal system on an extended orbit I can tell you a few things in general. First off this is going to go down in Terrant, for the most part T is a pretty (or was until a good chunk of California moved out here) conservative/ Independent minded county. But I am pretty much of the opinion a jury will have a WTF are you going after this guys life attitude if they hear this. The "believe all women" ya yah is quickly tempered by a Really? with a heavy, healthy southern mama's eyeroll. One thing I believe after watching this explode is the facts. If vague feelings and fuzzy memories are going to be hit with cold hard fact, I don't see a snowballs chance in Jamaica for the defense. Why would I say this? 14 officers shot, 5 killed protecting those who were protesting them. It wasn't that big a group but once the shooting started the news licked their chops while reporting making it look much larger, protesters after 2016 could and can be counted to be only in a dozen or so. The mood out here since 2016 is not one to embrace the madness. Sure Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio are a mess, but in Terrant not so much. I believe the tac BHBH are taking is a solid one.
 
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Been watching the newest TUG video where he reads an article that MoRon's attorney has listed as evidence that comes from Bleeding Fool. The article is a nice little summary of events starting after Ty joined the fight, along with several links to back up some of their statements. The comments can be summed up as "WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU? Are you TRYING to lose this case?"

It was then that something occurred to me: "What if that's EXACTLY what their attorney is doing?"

Think about it: MoRon have blatantly ignored their attorney's advice, primarily to stay off of Twitter and stop tweeting about the case. I would not be surprised if they ignored or argued against his council in other aspects as well.

An attorney in their right mind would NEVER list shit like this as evidence and I can see him arguing with his clients, saying something along the lines of "No, we CAN'T list a gossip forum as evidence!" So what if he finally just got so frustrated with his clients that he went "You know what? Fuck it. You wanna look like manipulative and petty lyers? All right. You obviously have no idea how the the real world works. Here's your fucking wake up call."

Granted, I could be giving him too much credit. But after Nick and Ty said that Casey appeared to be a competent attorney, as well as coming to the same opinion after my own research, I seriously think that this might just be an intentional ploy against MoRon.
 
Been watching the newest TUG video where he reads an article that MoRon's attorney has listed as evidence that comes from Bleeding Fool. The article is a nice little summary of events starting after Ty joined the fight, along with several links to back up some of their statements. The comments can be summed up as "WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU? Are you TRYING to lose this case?"

It was then that something occurred to me: "What if that's EXACTLY what their attorney is doing?"

Think about it: MoRon have blatantly ignored their attorney's advice, primarily to stay off of Twitter and stop tweeting about the case. I would not be surprised if they ignored or argued against his council in other aspects as well.

An attorney in their right mind would NEVER list shit like this as evidence and I can see him arguing with his clients, saying something along the lines of "No, we CAN'T list a gossip forum as evidence!" So what if he finally just got so frustrated with his clients that he went "You know what? Fuck it. You wanna look like manipulative and petty lyers? All right. You obviously have no idea how the the real world works. Here's your fucking wake up call."

Granted, I could be giving him too much credit. But after Nick and Ty said that Casey appeared to be a competent attorney, as well as coming to the same opinion after my own research, I seriously think that this might just be an intentional ploy against MoRon.
While I want to believe CE is up to speed I do not think he truly is. Ty even mentions that this is a completely new world of litigation, a course not many have a clue as to what is going on. I think CE is applying the old, hold them back till something shakes loose tactic, but with four different defendants, Moronica, marchi and Funi there's too many balls in the air to simply sit and I hope it bites his clients in their self entitled rear ends.
 
Been watching the newest TUG video where he reads an article that MoRon's attorney has listed as evidence that comes from Bleeding Fool. The article is a nice little summary of events starting after Ty joined the fight, along with several links to back up some of their statements. The comments can be summed up as "WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU? Are you TRYING to lose this case?"

It was then that something occurred to me: "What if that's EXACTLY what their attorney is doing?"

Think about it: MoRon have blatantly ignored their attorney's advice, primarily to stay off of Twitter and stop tweeting about the case. I would not be surprised if they ignored or argued against his council in other aspects as well.

An attorney in their right mind would NEVER list shit like this as evidence and I can see him arguing with his clients, saying something along the lines of "No, we CAN'T list a gossip forum as evidence!" So what if he finally just got so frustrated with his clients that he went "You know what? Fuck it. You wanna look like manipulative and petty lyers? All right. You obviously have no idea how the the real world works. Here's your fucking wake up call."

Granted, I could be giving him too much credit. But after Nick and Ty said that Casey appeared to be a competent attorney, as well as coming to the same opinion after my own research, I seriously think that this might just be an intentional ploy against MoRon.
I don't know for sure, but I think this could get him in trouble with the bar if true, so I doubt it. A lawyer's job is to represent their client to the best of their ability as has been stated by Nick. As mentioned by @GRB86 this is probably just new territory for him, as it is for everyone, and after weighing his options this is the best path he sees forward to zealously represent his clients. We can call Casey a big ol' dumb dumb but I'm not going to say that he's being unethical, because I just want him to loose this case not his job.
 
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