Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[ThonyTheThaigirl]

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If this is such a slam dunk as these cucks seem to suggest, it really makes you wonder why Casey hasn't filed a motion for sanctions on these grounds. It makes you wonder why Casey has been sitting on his hands, not producing ONE SINGLE DOCUMENT this entire time. I have a hard time trusting people that are wrong so often, especially when Nick has gotten basically every bit of both strategy and law correct so far, as far as I can tell.

 

[Stoneheart]

It's funny because in medieval times, they'd be the ones going balls-deep in witch hunting.

most witches were burned after the middle ages.
The real white knights were the group that burned the most in the medieval times, they were figthing eastern european heathens and their witchcraft.

 

[ThonyTheThaigirl]

That's not even the crux of the tweet. That particular tweet called him a piece of shit criminal, and in the context of several other tweets strongly implies that he's been been found guilty and convicted of some of the other crimes that he's accused of committing.

Is this additional bit about it being literally impossible to be a piece of shit a bit tongue-in-cheek, sure, but I wouldn't be surprised that after going through several hundred tweets the person writing all of that up is getting tired of doing it. Also, if someone didn't add that, they'd just latch on to the fact that it wasn't included: "So you say it's defamatory to call Vic a criminal, but it's not defamatory to call him a piece of shit?"

It's cherry picking a small part after cherry picking an even smaller part of the whole. If that's the best they can do, I think it just shows you how screwed they are. But you shouldn't let them frame the discussion on their terms like that. If they want to point at that, point at the other 399 tweets. They don't want anyone looking at those, hence the distraction.

Not only that, but as far as I can tell, it has to be at least a majority of the pleading that is legally or factually defunct AND in bad faith/meant to harass. Notice I also said pleading, as in a complaint or an answer to the complaint. A TDMA notice letter is not a legal defined complaint at all, so Lane here doesn't even have the basis of the rule correct. Do notice that Lane changed the wording to "signs a paper" instead of the actual definition. Very, very sneaky, but it's not very convincing if you ACTUALLY look at the rule. There's probably a good reason that Casey didn't immediately go after Ty for this, but, again, the dopamine rush these drive-by lawyers seek just continues to cloud their vision.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

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Brian reees some more

Someone should point out on Twitter to this nigga that he defended Bill Cosby and spam him with the fucking video he made on it.

 

[Crazedking]

Im Pretty sure the real white knights would burn Kickvic as witches...

Also isnt Stan just the therm American use instead of fan?

i thought Stan refers to Stan the obsessive Eminem fan from the the song "Stan". Implying Vicstan (vic fans) are crazy stalker that kills/hate their girlfriends(women).

 

[Lashed]

The quickest way for somebody to make me hate them is to use "Stan" to refer to a fan outside of K Pop context. He really doesn't get it either as the rest of their type won't, or maybe they do get it and they're afraid. It's not, and has never been about Vic himself, Vic is just a symbol of false accusations and career killing culture that has come out of Left-wing politics becoming more mainstream along with outrage culture.

It's always been about standing up to these bullies and showing them that they can't remove people at will from their livelihood and fame because they'll never stop as long as they feel they can get away with it. It has nothing to do with wanting to protect people or stopping a predator, it has everything to do with people enjoying feeling powerful.

100% agree with this. I'm not a massive Anime fan. I don't hate it, just never really sat down and watched all of em. 3x3 eyes peeps, still great.

Anyways I'm here because of the legal ramifications of accusing and blaming, and then getting away with it. Look at Johnny Depp. Accused of being a woman beater, turns out they were both shits.

Look at how the metoo movement dethroned a lot of people from the film industry. I won't agree with a lot of what was going on with that dipshit or the way Hollywood works, but 99% of women made their careers out if it. The ones who complained were the ones who got fuck all out of it. "He raped me and I didn't get a job!" "He's a rapist" No Ashley Judd your just a cunt.

It's all about diverting blame and putting it else where. Diverting your faults and blaming them on some fictional patriarchal system where your the victim.

how about fuck off, and work like the rest of us cunts in a day job where the world don't revolve around your fat ass complaint you only made $4 million because you have a face that only sells to premenstrual women going through the fucking change.

i typed without thinking. Sorry if I lost my train of thought.

 

[Aria]

the alt-right.so nick rekieta caters to the alt-right.

 

[Tipsy Tea Cup]

View attachment 813491the alt-right.so nick rekieta caters to the alt-right.

He never declared neutrality, he's said that over and over. He also doesn't hide behind block-bots and echo chambers, heck, he's even invited people with opposing views on the show.

These lunatics are insane. It's been months and they're still trying the same tactics to spin the narrative and failing the same gayOps.

 

[tds]

View attachment 813491the alt-right.so nick rekieta caters to the alt-right.

You forgot to add the description of this one.

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[Aria]

You forgot to add the description of this one.
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that explains some things

 

[Padoru]

feigning neutrality? I don't remember him ever saying anything even implying he was neutral. He is very adamantly pro-Vic and against MoRon.

 

[DanteFraco]

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Him and that ljmontello both been having a big mouth lately in the kickvic side of things lately, if we did the same on standwitvic, the people on PULL be telling us to go outside and get some air and get a life, the irony of these people.

Shoot ill take being call soyboy,whiteknight,cuck,sjws(even tho they keep forgetting the term sjw was started off by them) then being call a Nazi and alt-right,racist and shit any day. Sometime when they call people that it something to really take serious into for judging people by that.

Also ever time the term "threatened, harassed and doxxed" come out of there mouth, my only question to them is what do they define and how they see it cause usually kickvic be to sensitive and easily offended over everything,can toss a tennis ball at these people and to them its being hit with a bowling ball.How we suppose to take them serious when they never learn from there own mistakes and understand there action have consequence when they suffer backlash and criticism and then cry about harassment and play the victim ( Looking at you Jamie McGonnigal).

Just gotta love how they continue to paint kiwifarm and swv as a whole when we said multiple times we our own group, while we share the same agreement, were not them as a whole. But let them keep living in there own fantasy. (can't believe I just did a rant here)
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[Wilhelm Bittrich]

Does Cohen even practice in Texas? Also, what makes Ty's approach different or worse than Casey's here? Neither of them brought this shit before a judge, and Casey is the one who's holding discovery hostage, despite explicitly saying in court that they want the names public? The judge so far has only expressed frustration as to being brought in at all over petty discovery issues.

Also, didn't Ty go to the fucking judge about the confidentiality order in the first place? And what the fuck is a motion to compel if not trying to get the court to sort out a confidentiality issue? Didn't Ty schedule a hearing about this shit.

I'll admit I'm not a lawyer, but good God Cohen, get your head out of your ass and at least follow this shit before making pandering statements for good boy points.

No he works for Kamerman, Uncyk Soniker & Klein P.C. based in New York and no, he isn't a member of the Texas Bar Association.

 

[AnOminous]

So, he's claiming that the TDMA is entirely baseless or meant to harass the individual sent the TDMA? Over a couple extra statements of defamation that could easily be defended in court, he's claiming that Ty can be sanctioned over it? This ain't it chief.

Do you what a TDMA letter isn't? It isn't a fucking pleading.

Is this additional bit about it being literally impossible to be a piece of shit a bit tongue-in-cheek, sure, but I wouldn't be surprised that after going through several hundred tweets the person writing all of that up is getting tired of doing it.

The notion that in a huge document covering literally hundreds of defamatory statements, including a single one that is a trifle silly is sanctionable is itself a joke.

 

[Aria]

vic is guilty even if there is no proof but my brother is innocent even though he was caught with 4 fucking counts of cp.

 

[AnOminous]

Do notice that Lane changed the wording to "signs a paper" instead of the actual definition.

The rule governs a "pleading, motion, or other paper[.]" The only rational reading of this is that "other paper" means other paper of the category pleadings and motions are, i.e. paper filed with the court. Language later in the rule should clarify that this is, in fact, the case:

"Courts shall presume that pleadings, motions, and other papers are filed in good faith." This is so bog standard and ancient there's Latin for it, ejusdem generis, which states that when a legal document contains general language, like "other papers," following examples, the general language refers to others of the same sort as the listed examples, in this case, documents filed with the court.

 

[Garm]

Let's also not forget that those warship girl waifus people have been sending to Ty are far too pure for a slimy fuck like Cohen. He probably would not appreciate their individual quirks or their big..... guns.

I'm waiting for someone to send some to the judge.

"In what I believe to be an attempt at bribery, a large crate full of pillow cases featuring a variety of large chested cartoon women was sent to my house.

This is the weirdest damn case of my career."

 

[TardBows]

View attachment 813538vic is guilty even if there is no proof but my brother is innocent even though he was caught with 4 fucking counts of cp.

Nice double standard. Hey Sarah, if you have known your brother for 25 years, you should have known that he is not a good person as you like him to be. Don't forget, he is also a danger to the roads of Panama City.

See if you can talk your way out of this regarding the 4 counts of CP. Good luck, you will need it.

 

[TheClappening]

View attachment 813538vic is guilty even if there is no proof but my brother is innocent even though he was caught with 4 fucking counts of cp.

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What Senpai was referring to:

 

[ThonyTheThaigirl]

The rule governs a "pleading, motion, or other paper[.]" The only rational reading of this is that "other paper" means other paper of the category pleadings and motions are, i.e. paper filed with the court. Language later in the rule should clarify that this is, in fact, the case:

"Courts shall presume that pleadings, motions, and other papers are filed in good faith." This is so bog standard and ancient there's Latin for it, ejusdem generis, which states that when a legal document contains general language, like "other papers," following examples, the general language refers to others of the same sort as the listed examples, in this case, documents filed with the court.

You're right, actually. I was reading a modification of the actual rule that was shortened for ease of reading, I think. There also is some important modifying language in the rule, I think. It says, "Attorneys or parties who shall bring a fictitious suit as an experiment to get an opinion of the court, or who shall file any fictitious pleading in a cause for such a purpose, or shall make statements in pleading which they know to be groundless and false, for the purpose of securing a delay of the trial of the cause, shall be held guilty of a contempt."

The suit clearly isn't just to get an opinion of the court, and, even if you grant them not only that the statement is groundless and false, but also that it is in a pleading, the statement also isn't clearly for the purpose of delaying the trial. I hold again that there is probably good reason that Casey hasn't filed a motion for sanctions due to this statement.