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What happens when these people start getting old? They spend a lot of brainpower fantasizing about how being a woman means sororities and wearing lingerie, but what about wrinkles, turkey neck, and sagging breasts? Do they honestly think that the average woman is a busty petite with smooth skin and shiny hair for her entire life?

Oh wait . . .
 
I fucking hated embryology in med school, but at least it prevented me from writing puff pieces about "yaaas queen ladybrains"

In order to be entirely biologically male except for a ladybrain would require the mother to take exogenous hormones that cross the placental barrier during rapid fetal brain development during the third trimester, but NOT during genital differentiation in the first. It's actually pretty time-specific.

How do I know this? Well some brave research team trooned out a bunch of monkeys

e: also IIRC the head researcher passed away during that study. at least he died doing what he loved: watching female rhesus monkeys with testosterone-fueled gigantic clits screech and hump each other.

Yeah I don't know why that was ever greenlit.
If we can understand cases where this could happen, we could conceivably learn how to prevent gender identity disorders. Or at least have slam dunk scientific proof that troons are just autist and/or fetishists and not actually suffering from gender issues. Also it's just interesting. Fuck rhesus monkeys, if they didn't want to be lab rats they should have invented guns.
 
This is like saying "Prove the earth is flat" is an unsolvable question, and a classic "round-earther" debating tactic.
Similarly, those who try to answer the question tend to look like fools doing so. In multiple documentaries I've watched (such as Louis Theroux's) or just people posting online, "what it means to be a man" translates to "standing up when I pee and having erections," and "what it means to be a woman" translates to "sitting down when I pee and having breasts to play with." I suppose it's inherently obvious to a cynic, but for me, the more I'm exposed to the mentality of these people, the more I realize it's almost entirely just playing pretend using surface-level understandings.
 
Wouldn't an FTM claiming to be "straight" go after women? Why would they fetishize gay men?
Yaoi and internalized misogyny. They're "not like other girls" (true in a sense, lesbians are a minority), imagine themselves superior, but are into tits and pussy because biology said so. Their prospective sex partners are also "not like other girls". Meanwhile, the media they consume is not exactly charitable to female characters.

I knew two adult bisexual women who took no hormones (good!) and wore women's clothes but "identified" as gay men. They looked down on IRL gay men, and the straight men they fucked were fat ugly slobs completely unlike the dreamy hawwwwt anime bois they roleplayed as and fantasized about. One had an estranged husband (straight man) with two children by him, the other was a "childfree" child-hater; she also pretended to be XY to be "a real medically confirmed man, not like those other yaoi fangirls". They lived together with the children (:_(. (The children should be adults now. The one who wasn't intellectually disabled has done well in life.)
 
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If we can understand cases where this could happen, we could conceivably learn how to prevent gender identity disorders. Or at least have slam dunk scientific proof that troons are just autist and/or fetishists and not actually suffering from gender issues. Also it's just interesting. Fuck rhesus monkeys, if they didn't want to be lab rats they should have invented guns.

The one-in-a-million cases for an over-production of cross-gender hormones only in the third trimester would likely hinge on inflammation/damage of the pituitary gland ( The screwed-up hormone production can be limited to one or two. Otherwise, transbaby mommy is going to be very ill), or the arcuate nucleus of the hypothamalus.

Keeping in mind that correlation is not causation, the sale of atypical antipsychotics (which side-effects point to maybe screwing with the arcuate nucleus) rose 43 percent per year from 1997 to 2001. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690138/ ) Autists and "House, M.D." fans might recognize Risperdal in that group of meds. I would hope no one would start such meds on a pregnant woman, but... yeah.

On the other hand, fluoxetine (Prozac) has been handed out like candy since the 80s, and it takes a long time for the drug and its metabolites to clear out. If a mother discontinues that in the second trimester? One of the reasons for SSRI side-effects is that there are lots of different serotonin receptors, some of which regulate other neurotransmitters, like dopamine - the "sexy times" signal to the hypothalamus. [/quote]
 
They still mostly follow the behavioral patterns typical of their birth sex, giving me another reason to think that the whole "born in the wrong body" thing is a load of shit.
What, the whole "It's literally made up and supported by zero legitimate science based medical literature" wasn't enough to convince you it was fake?

Or the fact that such a concept literally doesn't make sense, considering we are built out of the same DNA throughout our entire bodies?

I just don't get why anyone gave this idea the slightest shred of credibility in the first place.
 
We’ve all heard of the feminine penis, get ready for the masculine uterus. r/honesttransgender, the self-proclaimed safe haven for troons “tired of getting kicked out of other subs because of their opinions” looks poised to become another factory for shitty takedown arguments and source of entertainment, having attracted people who were banned for questioning the party line as well as the usual cultists. Here’s some extracts from a thread on pregnant ftms:

I don't see myself as "biologically female". I see every part of myself, including my uterus, as male. I don't see that giving birth will make me any less of a man in the same way that the fact that I don't have a penis doesn't make me any less of a man. What makes me a man is in between my ears, not my legs, and that's not going to change if I get pregnant.

In my case (not pregnant but planning to be soon), my wife is infertile, or at least infertile enough that we can't get past it without a lot of strain on her body. We both pretty desperately want children but the system here does not release many kids for adoption and we can't afford to do it privately. Using my uterus is the logical way around all of these problems. I'm not, like, thrilled with the idea of being pregnant, but my dysphoria has been under control for a long time now and I know for a fact that having kids will be worth all the trouble, especially since it also means I won't have to watch my wife suffer through her treatments anymore.
I consider myself a man, but I'm a man with a female body - there's no point in denying that. And as a Christian, I'd like to think there's a reason I was made this way. Having the backup uterus that enables us to have a family gives some sense of purpose to the whole thing.
 
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This totally happened and children totally talk like this.
Troon can't even argue with children and is reduced to a puddle of tears when she tries to.

I feel like some trans people are playing a bit of a silly game here. They don't inform the doctor they're trans, then either get super mad when the doctor/nurse/pharmacist misgenders them, or get upset when the doctor makes the assumption that they're natally male/female and go on to cause errors in their diagnosis and treatment because they didn't have all the facts. Either way they're setting themselves up for a bad time.
Troons love playing with miserable, overworked health workers. Rhys McKinnon, for example, never right away says he is not a woman when the x-ray staff ask him if he has any chance at all to be pregnant. He just keeps saying "I know I'm not pregnant; don't give me the pregnancy test," and gets privately amused at the flustered reaction of the staff.
 
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Troon can't even argue with children and is reduced to a puddle of tears when she tries to.


Troons love playing with miserable, overworked health workers. Rhys McKinnon, for example, never right away says he is not a woman when the x-ray staff ask him if he has any chance at all to be pregnant. He just keeps saying "I know I'm not pregnant; don't give me the pregnancy test," and gets privately amused at the flustered reaction of the staff.
Is this some sort of group home situation? Was the only context that made sense to me.
 
I never was disgusted trans people and I never went out of my way to avoid them.

Then I started noticing how they act.

Now, I'd probably take a detour through Clinton's gash to avoid walking within a block of a troon.
In my experience with troons, i was lucky that the few i got to know were reasonable people that didn't behaved like toddlers. Still, i get your point because looney troons like the ones we see in this thread make the trans community appear as a bunch of entitled lunatics that want everyone to buy into their whole charade despite the few people that behave like actual adults.
 
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