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[AnOminous]

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And if this fucking tard read the complaint he'd know it alleges exactly that kind of specific statement. Also he's just wrong. "Vic is a murderer" is also defamatory even if it doesn't specifically allege a particular murder. "Vic is a child molester" is also defamatory. So is "Vic is a sexual harasser." If you say that shit you'd best be prepared to prove at least a single instance of the behavior, because Vic simply swearing under oath "I have never sexually harassed anyone" proves the falsity of the statement in the absence of any evidence to the contrary.

And this stupid motherfucker is calling other people dumb despite being provably a tard mongoloid sped.

These people are so incredibly far behind in the law portion of this, and it's really pretty unsurprising given their hatred of Nick. They pretend like everything that comes out of his mouth is just biased nonsense.

Nick's whole schtick of being some angry drunk guy on YouTube has completely distracted them from the fact that while 10% of what he does is pounding down shots and ranting and swearing, the other 90% is incisive legal analysis in which he literally reads the entire court record verbatim to his viewers.

So anyone who regularly watches his streams knows every single fucking word that is actually in the record, making imbeciles like Akiva Cohen and Douchette look like the ignorant rubes they are when they make comments completely uninformed by reality.

Didn't he say he was still planning to but due to some costs he was waiting a bit?

It's not a terribly costly procedure as intellectual property law actions go, but remember that IP practice, even at its most rudimentary, is always going to have some overhead, and you have to budget in that things could get weird at any time if they actually put up a fight over it, which they probably will because why not?

I think they may have just taken a look at it already and decided it wasn't even worth contesting, because it's weird and unprofessional just not to respond at all, especially when Nick outright offered to pay them something for a limited license for the term.

Maybe they were just hoping he'd be busy doing other shit and not bother, and that's sort of happened with the Vic case being absolutely a nonstop rollercoaster ride of fun.

Don't think he wants to take it, just cancel it. It was in use long before they started using it and honestly i don't think "fear" comes to mind when you think of duck dynasty.

I think it's been genericided, assuming it wasn't always generic. They clearly have not enforced it at all. This isn't even something you need to be an IP lawyer to understand.

Look at all the Duck Dynasty merchandise on this image search for "fear the beard." Oh, there isn't any? People don't immediately think of Duck Dynasty when you say "fear the beard" and, if they think of anything, it's baseball?

They might just not own that trademark!

 

[Itu aru kamusu tugeza]

Weskie is not making his case well at all, from these shots.

Clearly, vit is not only flaunting the site's image submission policy, but he does it regularly and as such can be understood to be transparently flooding the image gallery with what largely amounts to propaganda in an absolute sense when the primary purpose of the gallery is archival. The titles are at minimum useless for intuitive querying and are regularly inflammatory, the tags are basic at best, and otherwise poorly made (he repeatedly tags and titles Ty Beard as "tyler beard"), he doesn't source many of the images he posts even when he clearly can (even if you didn't have access to the very accessible-by-KF-at-minimum court documents, it's well known to observants in this controversy that Rekieta does regular visual breakdowns of these documents-- and this says nothing about forum posts)-- and there's even at least one series of images that's effectively him making a comment in image form, seeing as he doesn't source it or even take enough of the image to so much as imply that it came from anything other than his own text processor.

His efforts at censoring handles is also laughably poor, to the point that I question whether or not he's even being serious.

KYM staff isn’t generally well liked by a large portion of the userbase for good reason, but that’s for another thread.

 

[AnOminous]

By the way, is there an explanation why that person hasn't been nuked by Twitter already? That guy posted that "Vic is a sexual predator" dozens of times by now, how is that not targeted harassment?

Because literally nobody cares what that literal nobody says.

I can think of one worse thing. Submitting links to Nick’s video’s as part of your defense filings. This way the Judge gets to watch all of Nick’s compelling arguments without any possibility of rebuttal from yourself. But seriously you would have to be a complete fucking idiot of a lawyer to do that now wouldn’t you?

To be fair to the judge, he'd probably realize it would be improper to watch this stuff if he didn't have to watch it, though, because it is specifically persuasive material about the case itself and judges aren't supposed to be influenced by sources neither side has had the opportunity to rebut on the record.

I think if he did start to watch it for some reason, he'd probably realize he should stop and, if for some reason it was actually necessary to make some ruling based on it, bring in the parties to brief him on it first.

The simple explanation is Cohen is just another idiot moth drawn to the flames of stupidity.

He may be competent in his actual field of practice. I have no reason to think otherwise, although I would definitely consider someone else just based on his willingness to talk absolutely idiotic nonsense about a case he doesn't know the first thing about as if he had any idea what he was talking about.

I don't know why anyone would put their reputation at risk that way by not even being able to shitpost knowledgeably. Almost nothing he has said has given me any more insight than I would have had from just ignoring his bullshit.

Clearly, vit is not only flaunting the site's image submission policy, but he does it regularly and as such can be understood to be transparently flooding the image gallery with what largely amounts to propaganda in an absolute sense when the primary purpose of the gallery is archival.

Autistic pet peeve: you mean "flouting," not "flaunting."

 

[BrandedEagle]

Because literally nobody cares what that literal nobody says.



To be fair to the judge, he'd probably realize it would be improper to watch this stuff if he didn't have to watch it, though, because it is specifically persuasive material about the case itself and judges aren't supposed to be influenced by sources neither side has had the opportunity to rebut on the record.

I think if he did start to watch it for some reason, he'd probably realize he should stop and, if for some reason it was actually necessary to make some ruling based on it, bring in the parties to brief him on it first.



He may be competent in his actual field of practice. I have no reason to think otherwise, although I would definitely consider someone else just based on his willingness to talk absolutely idiotic nonsense about a case he doesn't know the first thing about as if he had any idea what he was talking about.

I don't know why anyone would put their reputation at risk that way by not even being able to shitpost knowledgeably. Almost nothing he has said has given me any more insight than I would have had from just ignoring his bullshit.



Autistic pet peeve: you mean "flouting," not "flaunting."

be real. do you really not expect andrea and casey to not try and drag nick into this like the autistic... you know what, no. I know a dude with autism. Dude's a fucking casanova einstein compared to these chucklefucks.

nah. casey will try his damndest to drag nick into this for one reason though he likely has multiple. to try and go after vic's war chest. boomer he is, he thinks he ropes nick into the lawsuit, then nick can't operate the gfm anymore.

 

[Commander]

be real. do you really not expect andrea and casey to not try and drag nick into this like the autistic... you know what, no. I know a dude with autism. Dude's a fucking casanova einstein compared to these chucklefucks.

nah. casey will try his damndest to drag nick into this for one reason though he likely has multiple. to try and go after vic's war chest. boomer he is, he thinks he ropes nick into the lawsuit, then nick can't operate the gfm anymore.

That's a stupid move. Hey Casey, I'm going to explain this the best way I can. It doesn't matter the damnest thing Nick did. You could throw Nick to prison over murdering someone and the GFM would still be up. GFM is getting profits off of it. And even if you get rid of it, it won't affect your lawsuit at all. I'd suggest Toye and Rial look at their bank accounts and make a hefty withdraw because this week is going to be expensive for them.

 

[Allanon]

I'm kind of curious how scarce KV's twitter presence is now if you snip out all the 'lawyers' making hot takes for retweets. Is there even anything left besides the main core of bitter industry people and straggling losers hoping to make it or get some cleavage snaps? Mostly I'm curious how much angry salt will fly when the lawsuit doesn't crash and burn like they're so sure of now.

 

[AnOminous]

nah. casey will try his damndest to drag nick into this for one reason though he likely has multiple. to try and go after vic's war chest. boomer he is, he thinks he ropes nick into the lawsuit, then nick can't operate the gfm anymore.

I'd note that Nick has no control over the funds in that GFM and they go directly into an IOLTA account even BHBH has to present itemized billing to spend any funds in it, but these morons don't understand any of that shit. They almost certainly still think that Nick is swimming in a pool of Scotch whisky doing a backstroke and hurling money over his back like Scrooge McDuck.

 

[Negromancer]

They almost certainly still think that Nick is swimming in a pool of Scotch whisky doing a backstroke and hurling money over his back like Scrooge McDuck.

thats a great mental image, so much that i almost wish he was doing that instead of being legit

 

[ManateeHunter]

They almost certainly still think that Nick is swimming in a pool of Scotch whisky doing a backstroke and hurling money over his back like Scrooge McDuck.

I think he already is considering his takeaway for every stream. Granted, he's probably saving it up because sending five kids to college is going to be one hell of a spend.

 

[Negromancer]

dragging rekeita into this is a good move for PR purposes. point out his videos, show some clips, portray him as a massive insensitive shitlord who incites or at least condones harrassment of the innocent victim womyns, and make sure to keep mentioning how vics lawyer is good friends with the guy and show clips of him appearing on stream with rekeita, etc. if you get a jury full of clueless boomers, especially women boomers, they will eat that shit up and come to view vics side in a really negative light.

how well it will actually work out in practice i can't say, but it's not a terrible move at all in my opinion.

actually its a horrible move since nick is smart and he would demolish their smear attempts
i have 0 idea how anyone can think thatd be a good move for them
"lets drag the guy who single handedly tanked our narrative into court where his words hold even more weight!"

 

[AnCapFool]

actually its a horrible move since nick is smart and he would demolish their smear attempts
i have 0 idea how anyone can think thatd be a good move for them
"lets drag the guy who single handedly tanked our narrative into court where his words hold even more weight!"

Hence mentioning his videos, but not showing them.

 

[Negromancer]

Hence mentioning his videos, but not showing them.

even then, if this became a realistic scenario i can't imagine him not being prepared for tactics like that and having a counter strategy.

not drag the guy into court personally, thats pointless. he doesnt know anything and isnt directly involved with the case.
no, just show parts of his videos as evidence of 'harrassment' and make sure to include his collaborations with ty beard to make the jury dislike vics side. i stand by my previous post, if you get a jury of clueless boomer ladies then this is a good tactic.

i see your point but it seems pretty unlikely and like a highly optimistic, unrealistic set up for KV to have going and there still are lots of counters to such an obvious bait and switch

edit: on the topic of cherrypicking and editing clips to smear someone in deposition, even alex jones of all people has a decent chunk of the public realizing how illegitimate of a tactic that was so i REALLY don't see that being wise in the end. you'll convince some morons but the people with a brain will trust you even less, just like we saw. but maybe we can expect something like that, since monica and co seem to really not care how much they're burying themselves and want to go scorched earth on vic. doesn't really make it a good move though imo.

 

[AnCapFool]

Oh? I wonder what this is? MoRon hires another law firm on the day of the depositions?

Edit: A glance at this new guy's practice areas:

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....The implications of this are kind of terrifying. -Casey- said to the court that he wouldn't file the TCPA after Vic's deposition. What then, of this new guy, especially with him being a TCPA specialist?

Might they have brought him on just to get away with the TCPA shenanigans Ty's been combatting?

Also, where the hell are they getting the money for this?

 

[Lens Serial# 0000713d7c]

Is she going to abandon Casey to Ron?

At least Mr. Lemon is.....SUPER-qualified!

 

[Hexadecimal]

Oh? I wonder what this is? MoRon hires another law firm on the day of the depositions?

Interesting. The front page of their site has links to three articles about Anti-Slapp motions. Here's their linked site: http://www.wickphillips.com

Front Page: http://archive.fo/wZlTL
Anti-Slapp Page Archive: http://archive.fo/XFljO

Their Super Lawyer: Sean Lemoine

Lemoine, Sean - Austin, Dallas, & Fort Worth Attorneys - Wick Phillips

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He's a Super Lawyer guys:

Top Rated Dallas, TX Business Litigation Attorney | Sean Lemoine | Su…

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Has a website called 'Anti-Slapp Texas': http://archive.fo/KOUD2
Been with W&P for 15 yrs. Went to Vermont Law School.
"Sean’s experience includes trials in and out of state, including state and federal courts, and arbitration. He has successfully represented owners, partners, shareholders and businesses in connection with a wide variety of commercial litigation matters, including breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty, fraud, disparagement, tortious interference and defamation."

Maybe they think K&C isn't up to it? Or they want more horsepower on their side?
These guys don't look cheap.
Galaxy Brain Play: They want Sean to file a TCPA motion so Casey doesn't have to and won't 'technically' contradict himself.

 

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Self-awareness = 0

 

[Son of Sparda 84]

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Wait are they using the whole the judge mistaken Ty for Vic thing?

 

[Aria]

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Self-awareness = 0

Oh brain you just described yourself you really do have zero self awareness.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Wait are they using the whole the judge mistaken Ty for Vic thing?

They are quite literally r3tarded, in the classic sense of the word. Something has held back the development of their minds.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Is she going to abandon Casey to Ron?

At least Mr. Lemon is.....SUPER-qualified!

Oh thank Cthulhu, another Superlawyer. It would be cruel to add a mere regular lawyer at this point, throwing them to the sharks and the stans and the Kiwi Farms. MoRonica needs all the help they can get, the poor dears.

Maybe this superlawyer can help the other superlolyer look through the discovery responses to find the "missing" documents in the folders where BHBH put them.