Disaster 'Erosion in acceptance' of LGBTQ people among young Americans, survey finds - NBC


Young Americans ages 18-34 are increasingly uncomfortable around LGBTQ people in personal situations, like learning a family member, doctor, or child’s teacher is LGBTQ.
June 24, 2019, 2:19 PM EDT
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In its annual “Accelerating Acceptance” survey, GLAAD found that people ages 18-34 are increasingly uncomfortable in “personal scenarios” with LGBTQ people — like learning that a family member, doctor or child’s teacher is lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.
Nationwide, the support for “equal rights for the LGBT community” remained stable at 80 percent, GLAAD’s survey found. But the biggest drop in support identified by the LGBTQ rights group was among the youngest Americans.
In 2016, 24 percent of respondents age 18-34 said they would feel uncomfortable with a LGBTQ family member; by 2018 that rose to 36 percent — about one in three. A similar rise was measured among the youngest group of respondents who say they would feel uncomfortable to learn their child was receiving an LGBTQ history lesson at school, from 27 percent to 39 percent.
"With the knowledge that erosion in acceptance was primarily happening among younger males, GLAAD launched a program dedicated to working with the video game industry on LGBTQ inclusion, to bring LGBTQ characters and stories to a world where male audiences were consuming content," said Sarah Kate Ellis, president and CEO of GLAAD, in a press release announcing a selection of survey findings.
This marked shift is reflected in the shrinking of a group of respondents that GLAAD classifies as “allies” — those who say they are “very” or “somewhat” comfortable in all seven interpersonal situations tested. In 2016, 62 percent of young men ages 18-34 reported feeling comfortable in all seven LGBTQ situations; in 2018, that number dropped to 35 percent, although GLAAD did not say which or how many interpersonal situations saw a decline in support.
"The younger generation has traditionally been thought of as a beacon of progressive values," said Ellis said. "We have taken that idea for granted, and this year’s results show that the sharp and quick rise in divisive rhetoric in politics and culture is having a negative influence on younger Americans"
GLAAD’s findings support other recent surveys, including the PRRI survey, that show generalized support for LGBTQ equal rights remains strong. Their March survey found that nearly 70 percent of all Americans, with majorities across all religions, support “broad nondiscrimination protections for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.”
A recent poll from the Williams Institute at UCLA found about half of voters are less likely to support a candidate because they are over 70. Just 34 percent of respondents said they would be less likely to support a candidate because he or she is gay.
According to a review of Gallup polling about homosexuality, first queried in 1977, support for gay people continues to increase. In 1977, just 13 percent of Americans believed being gay or lesbian is innate; today that number is 49 percent. In 1977, 14 percent of people believed gay and lesbians should be allowed to adopt; today it is 75 percent. In 1977, 56 percent of respondents said gay people should have equal employment rights; today, 93 percent believe that.
 
If there's no kids there, why is the degeneracy an issue? Seriously, why does anyone give a shit about other people being degenerate? It doesn't affect you in any way and isn't hurting anybody?

This is a legitimate question, I've never understood why people get so worked up about it.
In what planet is it okay to exhibit your filthy sexual life in the public venue for everyone to see? We have laws against this.
 
If there's no kids there, why is the degeneracy an issue? Seriously, why does anyone give a shit about other people being degenerate? It doesn't affect you in any way and isn't hurting anybody?

The more conservative gay guys I know don't like that shit because they don't want to be associated with it or be viewed that way.
 
If there's no kids there, why is the degeneracy an issue? Seriously, why does anyone give a shit about other people being degenerate? It doesn't affect you in any way and isn't hurting anybody?

This is a legitimate question, I've never understood why people get so worked up about it.
There ARE kids there, though. I mean not even mentioning the fact that it's in public, on a public street, in daylight, and kids have as much of a right to be there as any other citizen passing through trying to get where they need to go...people specifically bring kids to these. They are encouraged by the organizers to bring kids. There are events FOR kids at Pride. Kids marching in the parade. I mean...could you get more disingenuous if you tried?
 
If there's no kids there, why is the degeneracy an issue? Seriously, why does anyone give a shit about other people being degenerate? It doesn't affect you in any way and isn't hurting anybody?

This is a legitimate question, I've never understood why people get so worked up about it.


Because there are kids there and an active plan to expose as many children as possible to sex and sexual behaviour.

Edit: Cougar'd
 
If there's no kids there, why is the degeneracy an issue? Seriously, why does anyone give a shit about other people being degenerate? It doesn't affect you in any way and isn't hurting anybody?
There are kids there though. I fucking hate the whole "Oh think of the children!" line, but in this case it's actually valid.

Gay pride has run its course. Gays and lesbians wanted to be thought of as normal, well, normal people don't have parades celebrating their sexual preference. Part of the whole acceptance thing is learning how to become part of society and function in it. These guys aren't doing that. Instead they want to scream about how they need to be accepted as they ram another man in the ass and then scream that if we don't applaud and tell them that they're brave and stunning© we're homophobic bigot nazi minority killers.

Your idea of what gay pride parades are is outdated. No longer are they about being shows of solidarity and displays of light-hearted contrarianism (if they ever were at all), they are now about showing the world what kinks they get off to and being as obnoxious as possible while doing it.

Harvey Milk didn't die for this degeneracy.
 
There ARE kids there, though. I mean not even mentioning the fact that it's in public, on a public street, in daylight, and kids have as much of a right to be there as any other citizen passing through trying to get where they need to go...people specifically bring kids to these. They are encouraged by the organizers to bring kids. There are events FOR kids at Pride. Kids marching in the parade. I mean...could you get more disingenuous if you tried?
I should have phrased it something like "if it's ensured that there are no kids there", that absolutely is an issue. I do care about that, it's just the other stuff I don't take personal issue with.

People could be rawdogging each other in the middle of the sidewalk right in front of where I'm walking and I'd just walk around, no point in letting it bother me
 
If there's no kids there, why is the degeneracy an issue? Seriously, why does anyone give a shit about other people being degenerate? It doesn't affect you in any way and isn't hurting anybody?

This is a legitimate question, I've never understood why people get so worked up about it.

Every animal has a sense of conformity which it relies on for group cohesion. It's an impulse which comes from the unconscious (preconscious really since it evolved before consciousness) mind. These impulses direct our feelings, and our conscious minds then work to rationalize the feelings.

People may claim that, because it's an instinctive reaction that it's irrational, like a phobia, however it isn't irrational. Evolution doesn't work irrationally. Things are the way that they are for a reason, because there's an effect to behaviors which is beneficial to the organism. For example, it's rational to be scared of a spider or a snake, because it can hurt you. It's only irrational to be afraid of spiders that aren't actually there.
 
Every animal has a sense of conformity which is relies on for group cohesion. It's an impulse which comes from the unconscious (preconscious really since it evolved before consciousness) mind. These impulses direct our feelings, and our conscious minds then work to rationalize the feelings.

People may claim that, because it's an instinctive reaction that it's irrational, like a phobia, however it isn't irrational. Evolution doesn't work irrationally. Things are the way that they are for a reason, because there's an effect to behaviors which is beneficial to the organism. For example, it's rational to be scared of a spider or a snake, because it can hurt you. It's only irrational to be afraid of spiders that aren't actually there.
Yeah but seeing a dude waving a dildo around doesn't actually hurt you

Is this a bit or is he actually exceptional
Yes
 
I should have phrased it something like "if it's ensured that there are no kids there", that absolutely is an issue. I do care about that, it's just the other stuff I don't take personal issue with.

People could be rawdogging each other in the middle of the sidewalk right in front of where I'm walking and I'd just walk around, no point in letting it bother me
I'm with you on that, but I've also worked enough hardcore adult expos that I am completely desensitized to all but the most degenerate of degeneracies.

This is where things get slippery ( :story: ). When the event is totally in public where do we draw the line of what is an acceptable display? Honestly he same goes for performance and modern "art" in public.
 
You know what's funny about this? Around here, the gays have to remain in the closet. No, not that they're faggots. But that they voted for Trump.

Most of the Trump voters I know are not proud of voting for Trump, but they're not ashamed either because they'd rather be dead than have voted for Hillary. I'm more or less the same but in the other direction. Trump and Hillary were easily the worst Presidential candidates I've ever seen in my life.

This is where things get slippery ( :story: ). When the event is totally in public where do we draw the line of what is an acceptable display? Honestly he same goes for performance and modern "art" in public.

My personal opinion about shit like gay pride parades is if you don't like them, don't go there. Don't participate. The only people who have a legit beef are normies who have trouble getting to work or whatever because of some horde of dildo waving freaks clogging the streets they need to travel.
 
Everybody with a lick of sense saw shit like this as a real possibility, and if this isnt just a blip and we start seeing legit hard right policies get voted in over the next few years, I sincerely hope everybody on all sides of the political spectrum remembers just which cynical hucksters and narcissistic fucktards were responsible for turning progressive politics into a diseased sewer-pit loathed by everyone and punishes them accordingly.

I know I'd been mentioning it to people for years, and the result was a small minority of people screeching and ree-ing that I was a bigot, nazi, racist, (and every other fucking buzzword), the bulk of people silently allowing the smearing to go on, and a small minority of people across a decent swath of the political spectrum all agreeing that shit was getting stupid, and openly warning of a future backlash.

The denial didnt stop until plant workers and firemen who showed up to put out the fire started having their skin melt off, and by then it was far too late, and a chain of events that would see the end of the USSR and the ruin of countless lives around the power plant had begun.

Basically this is what has happened with progressive politics.

What's the name of the Google dummy that's desperately trying to spin that Project Veritas didn't just get her to admit Google has been cooking search results to meddle in elections?

Imagine if the media/politicical/activist powers that be tried to push this "act out and embody every negative stereotype imaginable and we will punish any who criticise you" angle with race.

The vitriolic and outrageous attempts at yelling down dissent and fomenting self-censorship out of fear of targeted harassment by the woke-folks has been escalating for at least 4-5 years now; I can clearly remember when people were been called conspiracy theorists for Obama's inability to openly condemn Islamist terrorism, and just a few years later, Sadiq Khan is calling Islamist terrorism "part and parcel of living in a big city", while presiding over an unprecedented crime wave, and the aftermath of a decade+ grooming scandal in a dozen towns. People were complaining about the nascent no-go-zones in Sweden and Germany a decade ago, well before the mass-migration, before open borders bullshit started, and before the critical mass of self-insulating migrants had been reached, and were being forced into self-censorship, because "shhh, don't be a racist!"

KILL ALL THE GAYS
AND THE FAGGOTS
KILL ALL OF THE GAYS

Why would you sabotage your dating options?

Yeah, I'm not uncomfortable, I'm just tired of being pulled aside and forced to choose a side, with my options being "PRO" or "KILL" because simply not caring is no longer allowed.

Exactly the boat I've been in, for several years - I have no problem with the neighbours engaging in consensual relationship with whichever adults they choose, but I do have a problem with having the option of only 2 school boards, and they offer the options of -

"If your boy likes dance more than football, or your daughter the reverse, they're trans and we'll have CPS take them away if you don't immediately have them put on blockers!"
-or -
"If a boy likes dance more than football, or a girl the reverse, we'll tell their parents, even though religious families commonly abuse the shit out of any child that isn't perfectly aligned with their gender stereotypes!"

If there's no kids there, why is the degeneracy an issue? Seriously, why does anyone give a shit about other people being degenerate? It doesn't affect you in any way and isn't hurting anybody?

This is a legitimate question, I've never understood why people get so worked up about it.

The kink community is VERY cautious about being outed, even for really lame and boring shit; they go out of their way to tell people to avoid anything that could draw attention to their gatherings, because even the most plebian kinky shit will stir up hackles. There's a reason why very few kinky people went and participated in the exceptional-as-fuck "protests" about FSoG being nothing like what the "Safe/Sane/Consensual" kink community engages in - 99% of them didn't want to be associated with the legitimately disturbing shit that some corners of that community are doing, even if it is "safe/sane/consensual" activity.

Pride parades are full of dudes in full-on bondage gear, leather outfits, latex pup-play/pony-play costumes, fat diesel dykes with pasties on eyeing up young women, and all sorts of shit that I can 100% accept occurs behind closed doors, but that I shouldn't have to accept is happening in public. If I go to a swinger's ball, I expect to see a bunch of people fucking, but I never see them trying to have a "Swinger's Pride" parade, where they carry on in public. I think I can reasonably expect that the LGBTspaghetti parades could tone it the fuck down, and maybe have floats about resources for abuse victims, or booths about community events, or mundane shit like that, instead of almost fucking rawdog, in public.
 
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This is where things get slippery ( :story: ). When the event is totally in public where do we draw the line of what is an acceptable display? Honestly he same goes for performance and modern "art" in public.
I'd say once they start doing or saying things that are actually against the law, like making children accept the sexual acts on display, soliciting their "pride" to others, or public orgies/masturbation. That's not something you should take lightly at all.
 
@ProgKing of the North just because you want everyday, everywhere to be the Up Your Alley (NSFL) festival in San Fran, doesn't mean everybody wants to see that.

Why do you feel that everybody should be required to participate in your exhibitionism? Why should I be forced into that?
In general I'm just almost on the side of people who want something allowed vs. not allowed because I think forcing people not to do something is a bigger imposition than having to see people doing something. It's a standard I try to be consistent about but I'm sure if you want to bad enough you can find some example of me being a hypocrite.
 
Yeah but seeing a dude waving a dildo around doesn't actually hurt you

Group dynamics. We are social organisms. Loss of cohesion allows for avenues of external influence. The whole "queer identity" thing is about showing that you are aligned against the dominant culture. It's why that group is targeted for propaganda, and turned into agents against social interest, often against their own individual interest.

Harm is relative.
 
@ProgKing of the North just because you want everyday, everywhere to be the Up Your Alley (NSFL) festival in San Fran, doesn't mean everybody wants to see that.

Why do you feel that everybody should be required to participate in your exhibitionism? Why should I be forced into that?

When did he say he actually wanted that, though? He's just said he thinks people should be allowed to do that if that's what they want to do, and I agree with that.

I also think it's okay if people look at that kind of behavior and say "wow, that's really degenerate, I don't like that."
 
People could be rawdogging each other in the middle of the sidewalk right in front of where I'm walking and I'd just walk around, no point in letting it bother me

I guess if that's common in your neighborhood. Personally I find that the smell of unwashed fatfuck manmeat, cheap perfume, shit-caked ass and rosé vomit generally makes me ill if I have to experience it on the way to work and that's only the most unpleasant part of the experience.
 
When did he say he actually wanted that, though? He's just said he thinks people should be allowed to do that if that's what they want to do, and I agree with that.

I also think it's okay if people look at that kind of behavior and say "wow, that's really degenerate, I don't like that."
Because the lowest common denominator always comes out on top. If you allow this, it becomes normalized, then as we have seen everywhere else what is normalized becomes "if you don't like this you are a bigot". Hell we're seeing it in this thread. Five years from now they could have naked kids marching in the parade, and people will be saying "why does this bother you, just don't look, how does a naked kid sucking on a dildo affect you? it's purely natural, only a pedo would see that as sexual"

Edit: For real life examples look at how San Fran had to finally ban public nudity. They hadn't had a law against it, because it was just a normal thing to NOT wander around in nothing but a cockring. However, the cockrings became so common people were whining that restaurants were forcing them to bring towels to sit on, and how that stifled their public nudity, and became such a plague that the city finally just banned it, except for contained festivals.
 
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