Weight loss support thread

In the last two weeks (basically from May 28th ish strait through until June 10th, today) something has erupted/snapped in my bullshit internal control center; I don't know if it's my gut or my brain but my binges that have always only ever been once-every-10/11-days breakdowns have been more frequent.

In the last two weeks I have binged TWICE per WEEK. Two times per week for two weeks.
I weighed myself this morning for the first time since this has happened and my weight rocketed up from 94 pounds to 102.5 pounds.

So now I'm in a state of mania...anger at myself and also confusion (how much of this weight gain is real weight gain, how much is bloating/water retention,/fluid/etc etc etc...how long until my weight will go back down to normal? What's happening to my body? All that typical ED/Ana-chan bullshit.

Sorry if this is shitting up the thread. Let me know what I can do to lose weight to get back down to 94 again, hopefully in the next few days or a week or so
 
We did that already and your response seems to have been binging twice as often. That's probably not going to help. Your weight can't go "back down to normal" anyways because it's already abnormal in the sense that it's much lower than it should be. Apart from a prolonged fast there's really not much that's going to instantly rip the weight back off in just a few days. You already have all the information you need, you just need to apply it, eat regularly, and stop binge-eating.

That's probably easier said than done for someone with an eating disorder, but there's no sense in pretending like there's some easy road just waiting to be discovered out there. The change has to come from you.
 
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Thank you for responding, I do appreciate it.

I have some basic understanding of water retention and bloating being something that contributes to numbers on the scale going up so much higher in short periods of time, especially when binge eating is involved. I don't know if you have any knowledge about that?
I'm drinking hella black coffee and some just normal water, plus taking OTC potassium supplements since they are supposed to help flush out water and help against edema?
I dont know how much of my weight gain is TRUE/REAL weight or fat but obviously I'm hoping most of it is water, food waste and bloating. Any input would be very appreciated.

I'm going to just try my best to stay on my normal eating, activity, lifestyke regimen and see what my weight does...but ngl I'm hoping that "weight ripped eight off my body" as fast as fucking possible is exactly what happens
 
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Previously I've mentioned how I had started losing weight after getting a standing desk setup and stuff, then after dropping soy and corn I went from "oh hey you've been losing weight that's cool" to "I'm nicely trying to ask if you're dying". I've lately gotten a lot lazier about avoiding corn and soy and sure enough I've put on a bit around the stomach despite now biking a lot.
 
Previously I've mentioned how I had started losing weight after getting a standing desk setup and stuff, then after dropping soy and corn I went from "oh hey you've been losing weight that's cool" to "I'm nicely trying to ask if you're dying". I've lately gotten a lot lazier about avoiding corn and soy and sure enough I've put on a bit around the stomach despite now biking a lot.

That's so interesting that simply avoiding (what you would think are only) small things like JUST soy would make such a big difference.
Is it especially hard? I'm not Vegetarian or Vegan and don't follow any kind of "special" diet at all....just restrict overall calories. But I'm toying with the idea of eliminating a couple of individual things in order to help general weight loss along, like processed/white carbs (chips, bread, rice, pasta, etc) and your success with ditching Soy is intriguing. But isn't there some kind of soy or processed or soy additive in a lot of stuff?

When you say you've stopped eating corn and soy, what exactly do you mean?
 
That's so interesting that simply avoiding (what you would think are only) small things like JUST soy would make such a big difference.
Is it especially hard? I'm not Vegetarian or Vegan and don't follow any kind of "special" diet at all....just restrict overall calories. But I'm toying with the idea of eliminating a couple of individual things in order to help general weight loss along, like processed/white carbs (chips, bread, rice, pasta, etc) and your success with ditching Soy is intriguing. But isn't there some kind of soy or processed or soy additive in a lot of stuff?

When you say you've stopped eating corn and soy, what exactly do you mean?
Read your ingredient lists. No corn, no corn protein, no corn syrup, no corn sugar, no corn oil. No soy, no soy oil, no soy bean, no soy lecithin, no soy protein, and so forth. The functional end means I skip basically most frozen and premade foods because that shit is in like basically everything.

I have a doctor I work with who rants endlessly about corn and soy so I figured I'd try dropping them and it seemed to make a difference.
For all I know it's a coincidence from eliminating the prepackaged stuff and it's some preservatives in the packaging I'm skipping, but his rants were basically "corn fucks up your insulin and the way you process sugar" and "soy fucks with your hormones".

Soy and corn isn't really a small thing in modern USA food. It's crazy the amount of prepackaged shit that has it and corn thrown in for no good reason. Like most mayos and salad dressings are soybean oil guest-starring ingredients, it's fillers in frozen dinners, lots of stuff.

It's not like I suddenly became Paul Blart or something, but after a couple of months of random junk again I've gotten a bit of wobble on the middle.
I've also never tried incorporating just one of them back in, so it may be that soy or corn does it all and the other is a good boy who dindu nuffin, too.
 
I feel like I'm utterly losing it because everywhere I go, it's either "just watch what you eat, exercise isn't mandatory" or "eat healthy AND exercise".

All I know is that there has to be a calorie deficit in order to lose weight and burn the stored fat on my body. r/fitness hasn't been much help either. :( I just feel stuck.
 
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I feel like I'm utterly losing it because everywhere I go, it's either "just watch what you eat, exercise isn't mandatory" or "eat healthy AND exercise".

All I know is that there has to be a calorie deficit in order to lose weight and burn the stored fat on my body. r/fitness hasn't been much help either. :( I just feel stuck.
too be honest, in my experience; exercise is such a small part of actual fat loss. It is mostly to do with your diet.
At my heaviest I was unable to walk longer than 2 minutes (hello ALR). So I slowly worked my way up along with dieting. I still was not burning enough calories to make a difference if I kept eating the way I was previously. At most I would burn maybe 300 calories on a short walk.
So i think diet is 90% of it, and exercise should be incorporated to improve mobility and heart/lung function; but it is not 100% necessary to lose weight.
Once I lost 40 lbs with diet, I was physically able to exercise more. Sorry if this doesnt make sense.
 
I feel like I'm utterly losing it because everywhere I go, it's either "just watch what you eat, exercise isn't mandatory" or "eat healthy AND exercise".

All I know is that there has to be a calorie deficit in order to lose weight and burn the stored fat on my body. r/fitness hasn't been much help either. :( I just feel stuck.
It's perfectly possible to loose weight purely by maintaining a calorie deficit, it's just that exercising--especially cardio--speeds up the process because the body's energy requirements go up in response to all the activity. Coupled with a calorie deficit, it means that the body still requires that new energy expenditure comes from somewhere, and if it can't get it through the food you're eating, it pulls it from available fat stores, instead. Say for example that you took three people who were exactly the same in every way, and every one of them did something different:

Person 1: Eats +500 Calories above their TDEE for one month.

Person 2: Eats -500 Calories below their TDEE for one month.

Person 3: Eats -500 Calories below their TDEE for one month, and power-walks for 30 minutes every morning.

The first person would gain weight, the second person would lose weight, and the third person would loose more weight than the second. Method 2 is still perfectly viable if you want to be lazy about losing weight, but not only does the third method speed things up, but you get all of the associated health benefits from routine exercise in the process.
 
Thank you everyone.
I have been diagnosed with arthritis in my legs since I was 18. Mother has OA so doctor thinks I may end up being diagnosed as well but nothing yet thankfully.
I will check out the battle ropes suggestion. I have used the elliptical at times and the stationary bike.
I do make sure protein is the largest part of every meal.
Thanks again for all the advise/support!

If you have arthritis I'd probably try to go for swimming. It'll almost certainly have the lowest impact on your knees. Plus the good thing about water is that it supports you and slows you down a smidge so it is almost impossible to injure yourself unless you slip while getting out. As I understand it almost everybody is encouraged to swim from pregnant women to people with herniated discs.

too be honest, in my experience; exercise is such a small part of actual fat loss. It is mostly to do with your diet.
At my heaviest I was unable to walk longer than 2 minutes (hello ALR). So I slowly worked my way up along with dieting. I still was not burning enough calories to make a difference if I kept eating the way I was previously. At most I would burn maybe 300 calories on a short walk.
So i think diet is 90% of it, and exercise should be incorporated to improve mobility and heart/lung function; but it is not 100% necessary to lose weight.
Once I lost 40 lbs with diet, I was physically able to exercise more. Sorry if this doesnt make sense.

In my experience you can totally lose a lot of weight just by sitting on your ass. The problem is that you'll want to exercise if you plan to lose a lot of weight because the more weight you lose the looser your skin will be. Exercising helps aliviate that to some extent.
 
I have been diagnosed with arthritis in my legs since I was 18. Mother has OA so doctor thinks I may end up being diagnosed as well but nothing yet

I can highly recommend walking, especially long distances (I tend to walk at least 8-10 miles a day), alternate between power-walking and normal speed if you have to (I'm averaging something close to 4 mph usually)
I've had arthritis in one of my knees since I was a child and walking (along with a diet consisting only of whole foods, high fat and protein) has almost eliminated the symptoms.
It used to be that my knee would kill me after only about a mile, but I pushed through and continued.
Now I can walk the whole distance and not even think about it. (losing extra weight certainly helped, though)



Down to 243 elbees now,
Aiming for 200 as my goal weight.

204 as of today, I think I'll move the goalpost to 190 for now.
 
My weight loss has been an utter disaster of a roller coaster. Currently at 225 pounds, my heaviest was almost 250, and the lowest I've gotten since actively trying to lose weight was around 210. Ultimate goal is to get below 200 (190-180). The problem is a combination of not consistently working out enough (walk on the treadmill for an hour or so then do a minimum of 50-100 pushups and crunches on the daily) and the biggest issue, not eating right.

My diet plan is all about limiting carbs as much as possible, so things like sugars, breads, pastas, all of that needs to either be eliminated or substituted for low carb variations, and I know it works because my weight goes down fairly quickly since my metabolism takes care of itself when given the chance.

But the problem is every month or so there's a family event of some kind or another where the house (or wherever we go to) is flooded with overly rich food of all kinds and I drop my guard with the excuse of "It's a special occasion" and eat all sorts of junk and it throws my whole resolve out the window in a never-ending cycle.

I'm still trying and not giving up though. Right now I'm fasting for at least a day to clear out my system and start over with the right choices and smaller meal portions. I've done it several times before with no issues and it's a good kickstart to getting my body on the right track again to burn the excess fat instead of storing it. The most I've fasted is almost 2 days and I can burn a few pounds just by doing that, but my stomach would sooner an hero itself than fast much longer than that so I'd never be in danger of outright starving myself like an anorexic.
 
My weight loss has been an utter disaster of a roller coaster. Currently at 225 pounds, my heaviest was almost 250, and the lowest I've gotten since actively trying to lose weight was around 210. Ultimate goal is to get below 200 (190-180). The problem is a combination of not consistently working out enough (walk on the treadmill for an hour or so then do a minimum of 50-100 pushups and crunches on the daily) and the biggest issue, not eating right.

My diet plan is all about limiting carbs as much as possible, so things like sugars, breads, pastas, all of that needs to either be eliminated or substituted for low carb variations, and I know it works because my weight goes down fairly quickly since my metabolism takes care of itself when given the chance.

But the problem is every month or so there's a family event of some kind or another where the house (or wherever we go to) is flooded with overly rich food of all kinds and I drop my guard with the excuse of "It's a special occasion" and eat all sorts of junk and it throws my whole resolve out the window in a never-ending cycle.

I'm still trying and not giving up though. Right now I'm fasting for at least a day to clear out my system and start over with the right choices and smaller meal portions. I've done it several times before with no issues and it's a good kickstart to getting my body on the right track again to burn the excess fat instead of storing it. The most I've fasted is almost 2 days and I can burn a few pounds just by doing that, but my stomach would sooner an hero itself than fast much longer than that so I'd never be in danger of outright starving myself like an anorexic.
Yeah, an unrestricted diet will bite you in the ass and ostensibly murder any of the progress you'd otherwise make with exercise. That's why I always tout the #1 rule to be "Clean up your calories" before worrying about anything else. You can be an absolute beast in the gym who sprints for 1 hour on the treadmill and spends the next three hours bench-pressing cars in the parking lot, but if you go home and eat 5,000 calories you're gonna' wind up fat.

What you eat doesn't matter nearly as much as how much of it you eat, though. If you took one guy eating nothing but chicken and broccoli to the tune of 4,000 calories a day and another guy who ate nothing but junk food but only ate 1,500 calories, the chicken guy would get way fatter than the junk food guy, who would actually be losing weight even though he's eating trash.

Don't punish yourself with fasting and eating flavourless foods like plain oatmeal and boiled chicken, just get a better handle on your portion sizes and keeping track of your calories and you can (reasonably) eat whatever you'd like. To be fair it is a lot easier to keep your calories lower with rice and vegetables than it is with Big Macs, but if you hate the food you eat then you're going to "fall off the wagon" because it's not sustainable.

In order to achieve weight loss and maintain yourself in the range that you want, you need to make permanent changes. Essentially no one alive can permanently eat things that they hate for the rest of their lives, hence why so many people fail. Find foods that you like and that you can easily space throughout the day to eat beneath your TDEE and you'll be golden, no fasting or crazy exercise routines required.

For what it's worth, and purely to mention it though: After two or three days of fasting your stomach "shuts up." By day three or four it just decides to give up and put you in ketosis for awhile. The hunger pangs usually come back in about a week, and when they that is when you should eat, instead of trying to push through it and into 'another' fast.
 
Yeah, an unrestricted diet will bite you in the ass and ostensibly murder any of the progress you'd otherwise make with exercise. That's why I always tout the #1 rule to be "Clean up your calories" before worrying about anything else. You can be an absolute beast in the gym who sprints for 1 hour on the treadmill and spends the next three hours bench-pressing cars in the parking lot, but if you go home and eat 5,000 calories you're gonna' wind up fat.

What you eat doesn't matter nearly as much as how much of it you eat, though. If you took one guy eating nothing but chicken and broccoli to the tune of 4,000 calories a day and another guy who ate nothing but junk food but only ate 1,500 calories, the chicken guy would get way fatter than the junk food guy, who would actually be losing weight even though he's eating trash.

Don't punish yourself with fasting and eating flavourless foods like plain oatmeal and boiled chicken, just get a better handle on your portion sizes and keeping track of your calories and you can (reasonably) eat whatever you'd like. To be fair it is a lot easier to keep your calories lower with rice and vegetables than it is with Big Macs, but if you hate the food you eat then you're going to "fall off the wagon" because it's not sustainable.

In order to achieve weight loss and maintain yourself in the range that you want, you need to make permanent changes. Essentially no one alive can permanently eat things that they hate for the rest of their lives, hence why so many people fail. Find foods that you like and that you can easily space throughout the day to eat beneath your TDEE and you'll be golden, no fasting or crazy exercise routines required.

For what it's worth, and purely to mention it though: After two or three days of fasting your stomach "shuts up." By day three or four it just decides to give up and put you in ketosis for awhile. The hunger pangs usually come back in about a week, and when they that is when you should eat, instead of trying to push through it and into 'another' fast.
Oh believe me, I never even tried to go hardcore "Only eat cardboard" diet crap, I know what foods I legitimately like that are still relatively healthy. And at one point I even got to a stage where my stomach genuinely felt full after a significantly smaller portion than what I normally eat, as it had shrunken down to a less demanding size.

If I can get it back to that point and keep it that way, it would do wonders just on that fact alone. Just need to pay more attention to my portions like I did before.
 
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If I can get it back to that point and keep it that way, it would do wonders just on that fact alone. Just need to pay more attention to my portions like I did before.

You need to take personal responsibility, it's really that simple.
If you want extreme examples, check out deathfats like Amberlynn or Chantal.
It's never their fault when they don't follow their diets and binge or they inhale a portion of orange chicken with 2 sides of rice (yaaas, slay gorl).
Make your diet as simple as possible, I've done that by looking towards the bodybuilding crowd.
If you want to bulk or maintain, eat a protein, veggies and complex carbs.
If you want to slim down, simply omit the carbs.
Always refrain from eating highly processed stuff and go for whole foods (if it didn't come from plant or animal, don't eat it).
There is no need to count calories this way, either.
I've been doing the whole low carb, high protein and fat thing for over a year and stopped counting long ago and lost 60 ish elbees that way with minimal exercise.
And stay away from everything man-made (like diet soda), that stuff turns the frogs gay.
 
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