Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[TheSoutherStar]

So I'm on the ground at Super World Con... And it's super quiet compared to cons like SacAnime. View attachment 820823

place looks super depressing for some reason, but i hope you're having fun, that's what counts

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

Are you going to ask him about this whole Tekko fiasco

I would highly advise against it, be sure kickvic has also it's field agents at the event. Don't given them any ammo against Vic or the Farms.

 

[Pope of Degeneracy]

I would highly advise against it, be sure kickvic has also it's field agents at the event. Don't given them any ammo against Vic or the Farms.

Yes for the love of God, dont sperg out like that one dude did with Marchi

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Not only is troonish contrarian claiming that con organiyers were feeding the wee princess to the sharks, it also think it is conventionally attravtive. Now if that isn't telling you that it is a pathological liar, you'd have to be as deluded as that thing.

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"Conventionally attractive"?

This isn't the first time she's used exactly those terms, I'm almost entirely sure even her friends at PULL thought she was trans, and along with the comment wherein she expressed her certainty that anti-kickvics hatefapped to the lot of them, I'm expressing my certainty that she's pathologically insecure.

 

[TheClappening]

Are you going to ask him about this whole Tekko fiasco

The dude got depo'd on Wednesday. Probably not. It'd be more tactless than Armzgurl has armz.

 

[Genkoda]

Not only is troonish contrarian claiming that con organiyers were feeding the wee princess to the sharks, it also think it is conventionally attravtive. Now if that isn't telling you that it is a pathological liar, you'd have to be as deluded as that thing.

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Attractive? This hambeast is ugly inside and out. Seeing the photos makes me wanna vomit.

 

[anionfarflung]

... I'm expressing my certainty that she's pathologically insecure.

Absolutely. She's mannishly repulsive, she knows it, she doesn't want to believe it. She tries to convince herself and others it isn't true.

I say sweep the leg.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Attractive? This hambeast is ugly inside and out. Seeing the photos makes me wanna vomit.

I don't even think she's a "hambeast", as you say, but then again, I haven't seen photos of her from below the neck (and the day I see photos of her below the neck without her face is probably the day I go comatose)-- that said, she's an ugly hambeast where it counts.

On the inside.

 

[Son of Sparda 84]

The dude got depo'd on Wednesday. Probably not. It'd be tactless than Armzgurl has arms.

Thats understandable

 

[jameshameson]

So roosterteeth did a thing

 

[Genkoda]

I don't even think she's a "hambeast", as you say, but then again, I haven't seen photos of her from below the neck (and the day I see photos of her below the neck without her face is probably the day I go comatose)-- that said, she's an ugly hambeast where it counts.

On the inside.

I may be getting some people mixed up, but are we talking about this thing?

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/whale-wars.55358/post-4918733

 

[Tipsy Tea Cup]

Some leads.

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[Tard]

So roosterteeth did a thing

So are they gonna kill his character offscreen when the next season comes out?
I find it hilarious that it looks like they are going to remove a very important character in the series plot-wise to spite Vic
I know the series has already gone downhill since Monty died and they refused to continue what he wanted, but the possibility of them throwing out a abrupt "he died on the way back to his home planet" is so ridiculous to me.

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

So roosterteeth did a thing

Spoiler: Well, it seems they're in good company. /cynism

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[TheClappening]

Vic's on break. Funny thing. I saw him outside getting some roast corn from a food vendor. Was hungry so I got some elote. Was making small talk with the vendor and joked "oh I need to get that guys autograph later." The vendor asked me if he should know who that guy (Vic) was. Told him "anime."
"Ah." still looked confused.

Bad signal here so I'll upload pictures later, but the side of the building holding the football players was more lively, but still small. I know Joe Montana hasn't been relevant for like 20 years, but it's still Joe Montana. There were maybe two dozen people there for him. Lines were messy so I might be seeing the lines of other players.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

Given IMDB, Vic voiced Hikaru Ichijo in the english dub, the deceased Arihiro Hase did the japanese original voice for Hikaru ichijo and Mari Iijima did both voice dubs for Lynn Minmay.
Also worth mentioning: Monica Rial did voice Misa Hayase.
Now make a educated guess who I think was seeding that Vic berated Mari story and how valid it is!
[ ] It's true!
[ ] Monica just fuck off, will ya!
Pick one.

To clarify a bit for people who may be unfamiliar with Macross:

Super Dimensional Fortress Macross was released in 1982 in Japan. There was one lead male character voiced by Arihiro Hase, and two lead female characters, one of which(the more iconic one) was voiced by Mari Iijima. The 1980s was a time where US companies were licensing anime series, then rewriting the script and editing the series to get something suitable for morning action cartoon blocks for US TV. Macross was the first of three series that was used to create Robotech with an '80s dub cast. It was popular in the US which led to US popularity of the original Macross franchise as the anime scene started building up in the early 90s and Macross OVAs/movies got released. Meanwhile Mari Iijima moved to the US in 1989 in further pursuit of her music career (and as of last time anyone updated her wikipedia entry, she still lives in Los Angles, California). Since then her music career has been her main work, not voice acting.

In 2006, ADV Films got the rights to release the original SDF Macross series in the US. This of course required a new translation and a new dub as the previous one had a bunch of name changes, odd rewrites, and probably some bits that had dialogue in Japan but were cut and received no dialogue in the US, or the reverse where the US added some talking where the original had nothing. As Mari Iijima was available and willing, ADV Films cast her to reprise her role, this time in English. For the male lead they cast Vic Mignogna and for the second female lead they cast Monica Rial. I'm not certain how ADV films ran it's dubbing operation, so I have no real idea of how much contact Mari Iijima would have had with Vic or Monica for most of this process. However ADV Films took full advantage of having access to an english speaking member of the original Japanese cast, and had Mari do a bunch of stuff for the special features. Said special features included doing some episode commentary with various people, including Monica Rial for DVD1, and Vic Mignogna for DVD2. The DVD release finished in 2006, and such commentary generally requires being in the same studio at the same time, so Mari Iijima would have met and worked with Vic sometime in 2006.

Furthermore, the conventions they were both guests at are:

Anime Weekend Atlanta 2004
Tekkoshocon 2007
Ani-Magic 2007
Kawaii Kon 2008 (Monica Rial was also a guest)
Anime Central 2008
Tekkoshocon 2010
MechaCon 2010

A cursory search did not turn up any other conventions where both Monica and Mari were guests. Given their lead roles for a popular lead series like Macross, I would not be surprised to learn that Vic and Mari did a panel together at one or more of these conventions; although I have not looked for old convention programs or schedules to try and confirm.

So in 2007, Mari Iijima was not some random celebrity guest flown in from Japan. She was an english speaking US resident who at minimum was acquainted with Vic, had worked with him before, and would go on to be guests at the same convention as him a few more times, some of which may have involved working together with him for panels.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Well this will allow us to see if Tekko con really does have a spine(we know peter does), or if they are cowards. Not necessarily saying they need to invite vic or they are cowards, but if they cave in to the twitter brigade and denounce vic/fire peter

They are already bending over backwards for these people and it's still not enough. They surveyed attendees and asked them if they had felt safe sharing their gender identity and published the results online. And what did they get in return? A boycott by the troons they cucked to.

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If they do, that would imply they did nothing when rapes occurred at their convention. This would be the worst thing they could possibly do. Though they may still do it, since PR people keep advising that you should apologize, which is a fucking death sentence.

IMHO, it's just a matter of time before they bend their knee and fire Peter Gaudoin and release a statement damning Vic.
They don't have the guts, albeit Peter's stance and Twitter fight was admirable it was like the Battle of Corregidor, a lost cause from the start.

The Pittsburgh Japanese Culture Society (PJCS) took over Tekko in late 2012. They weren't even running the con back when all this stuff was alleged to have occurred in 2007. That's what makes this boycott all the more egregious.

Here’s the thing: whenever a company/public entity faces even a slight push of bad PR, they shit bricks. And even if silence is an option, to the general public, silence can be seen as ducking the elephant in the room/be seen as “not good enough”. It takes a special kind of based to tell the outrage mob to fuck off, let alone double down on what they’re complaining about.

I don’t even know what these people are trying to get out of this. What’s their desired end result? Some kind of leftist anime utopia?

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

Some leads.

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As I said elswhere, we need some proof that manjaw really worked as staffer for multiple cons. TBH, I highly doubt it, otoh, if she really did, there must be some sources somewhere.
If above posted screen is accurate it might just be the first one to confirm what we all already assume, that manjaw is a pathological liar.

 

[Nontransferable]

Said special features included doing some episode commentary with various people, including Monica Rial for DVD1, and Vic Mignogna for DVD2.

If anyone has these DVDs, the commentary on volume 2 with Vic Mignogna and Mari Iijima would be of interest. There's a old post on GameFAQs where someone alleges that this exchange occurred. I suppose it ties in with the rumors that Vic tormented her over his suicide and said that he was burning in hell.

I remember listening to the SDF Macross commentary and Vic Mignogna asked Mari Iijima something along the lines of, "Weren't you close to the guy who voiced Hikaru (Arihiro Hase)?" And then she was like, "Yeah that was a long time ago, things didn't work out."

Arihiro Hase commited suicide in 1996.

 

[Tipsy Tea Cup]

To clarify a bit for people who may be unfamiliar with Macross:

Super Dimensional Fortress Macross was released in 1982 in Japan. There was one lead male character voiced by Arihiro Hase, and two lead female characters, one of which(the more iconic one) was voiced by Mari Iijima. The 1980s was a time where US companies were licensing anime series, then rewriting the script and editing the series to get something suitable for morning action cartoon blocks for US TV. Macross was the first of three series that was used to create Robotech with an '80s dub cast. It was popular in the US which led to US popularity of the original Macross franchise as the anime scene started building up in the early 90s and Macross OVAs/movies got released. Meanwhile Mari Iijima moved to the US in 1989 in further pursuit of her music career (and as of last time anyone updated her wikipedia entry, she still lives in Los Angles, California). Since then her music career has been her main work, not voice acting.

In 2006, ADV Films got the rights to release the original SDF Macross series in the US. This of course required a new translation and a new dub as the previous one had a bunch of name changes, odd rewrites, and probably some bits that had dialogue in Japan but were cut and received no dialogue in the US, or the reverse where the US added some talking where the original had nothing. As Mari Iijima was available and willing, ADV Films cast her to reprise her role, this time in English. For the male lead they cast Vic Mignogna and for the second female lead they cast Monica Rial. I'm not certain how ADV films ran it's dubbing operation, so I have no real idea of how much contact Mari Iijima would have had with Vic or Monica for most of this process. However ADV Films took full advantage of having access to an english speaking member of the original Japanese cast, and had Mari do a bunch of stuff for the special features. Said special features included doing some episode commentary with various people, including Monica Rial for DVD1, and Vic Mignogna for DVD2. The DVD release finished in 2006, and such commentary generally requires being in the same studio at the same time, so Mari Iijima would have met and worked with Vic sometime in 2006.

Furthermore, the conventions they were both guests at are:

Anime Weekend Atlanta 2004
Tekkoshocon 2007
Ani-Magic 2007
Kawaii Kon 2008 (Monica Rial was also a guest)
Anime Central 2008
Tekkoshocon 2010
MechaCon 2010

A cursory search did not turn up any other conventions where both Monica and Mari were guests. Given their lead roles for a popular lead series like Macross, I would not be surprised to learn that Vic and Mari did a panel together at one or more of these conventions; although I have not looked for old convention programs or schedules to try and confirm.

So in 2007, Mari Iijima was not some random celebrity guest flown in from Japan. She was an english speaking US resident who at minimum was acquainted with Vic, had worked with him before, and would go on to be guests at the same convention as him a few more times, some of which may have involved working together with him for panels.

Seems like Monica's salt goes back more than a decade. Has she ever had a lead female role next to Vic after this?