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[Peasant]

I wonder if women's tendency to be more social is why femcels need their ships validated when most pervy dudes just whack it in quiet shame like you're supposed to

I've seen neckbeards do the same shit plenty of times on places like /a/. 99.5% of the time it's the yuri fags.

 

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Xenoblade Chronicles 2 IIRC was also done by a doujin artist called saitom. In both cases, the artists were mostly restrained... Well, less so for saitom.

They both did work for Fate Grand Order. And they REALLY went wild there.

Raita (One Example) https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Minamoto_no_Raikō

Saitom: https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Bradamante#Skill_Reinforcement

Love Hina's artist got his start doing Lolicon Doujinshi of Cardcaptor Sakura, IIRC.

The artist of the first Pokemon manga, Toshihiro Ono, is better known as Kamirenjaku Sanpei, famous for his "Anal Justice" series of Hermaphrodite anal pornographic comics. (And yes, he's done Cardcaptor Sakura books, too. Dunno why.)

Any weeb that suggests that a dirty doujinshi or two in an artist's back catalog is a deal breaker is a poseur. Japan does not give a fuck. They do not give a FUUUUCK. A lot of artists get their start doing fanart and fanbooks, then move on from there. It's only with the rise of Tinami and Pixiv that things have started to shift.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Love Hina's artist got his start doing Lolicon Doujinshi of Cardcaptor Sakura, IIRC.

The artist of the first Pokemon manga, Toshihiro Ono, is better known as Kamirenjaku Sanpei, famous for his "Anal Justice" series of Hermaphrodite anal pornographic comics. (And yes, he's done Cardcaptor Sakura books, too. Dunno why.)

Any weeb that suggests that a dirty doujinshi or two in an artist's back catalog is a deal breaker is a poseur. Japan does not give a fuck. They do not give a FUUUUCK. A lot of artists get their start doing fanart and fanbooks, then move on from there. It's only with the rise of Tinami and Pixiv that things have started to shift.

Isn’t writing dirty comics and shit how Linkara got his start?

 

[ManateeHunter]

I'd have agreed with this 100%... then I saw a thread on ANN that went many, MANY pages of all their snowflakes freaking out about Darling in the Franxx when a show about kids that get screwed over didn't give the lesbian a charmed life where nothing bad happens to her and she gets everything she wants... in the MIDDLE of the show. Like honestly HALF the cast has unrequited love, but all their little sheep sperged out for weeks because the lesbian isn't allowed to NOT get exactly what she wants, when she wants it.

TBF Darling in the Franxx is relatively new and completely shit. Yabuki Kentaro (the guy who wrote ToLoveRu) tried to do it justice in his comic adaptation, but he had to go on hiatus because literally no one gives a shit and want him to continue ToLoveRu. I don't see why these SJWs give a fuck, but I guess shittier anime means a smaller fanbase that's easier to infect.

At least he's not german, we have enough neckbeards ourselves.
I'm not sure how long you have followed the thread, but we had a German speaking con comedian giving us his hot takes.
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I've seen this fucker mentioned earlier in this thread. He's STILL going??! Holy fuck, get a life you weirdo.

Love Hina's artist got his start doing Lolicon Doujinshi of Cardcaptor Sakura, IIRC.

The artist of the first Pokemon manga, Toshihiro Ono, is better known as Kamirenjaku Sanpei, famous for his "Anal Justice" series of Hermaphrodite anal pornographic comics. (And yes, he's done Cardcaptor Sakura books, too. Dunno why.)

Any weeb that suggests that a dirty doujinshi or two in an artist's back catalog is a deal breaker is a poseur. Japan does not give a fuck. They do not give a FUUUUCK. A lot of artists get their start doing fanart and fanbooks, then move on from there. It's only with the rise of Tinami and Pixiv that things have started to shift.

We have seen an increase in ex-hentai artists debuting in more mainstream comic magazines like Weekly Shonen Jump. I'm just hoping they make official hentai doujin once their tenure is over.

 

[Dark Prince]

Love Hina's artist got his start doing Lolicon Doujinshi of Cardcaptor Sakura, IIRC.

The artist of the first Pokemon manga, Toshihiro Ono, is better known as Kamirenjaku Sanpei, famous for his "Anal Justice" series of Hermaphrodite anal pornographic comics. (And yes, he's done Cardcaptor Sakura books, too. Dunno why.)

Any weeb that suggests that a dirty doujinshi or two in an artist's back catalog is a deal breaker is a poseur. Japan does not give a fuck. They do not give a FUUUUCK. A lot of artists get their start doing fanart and fanbooks, then move on from there. It's only with the rise of Tinami and Pixiv that things have started to shift.

Interestingly, non-doujin artists in general have found themselves just starting a proper manga series on their accounts and then netting serialization deals when it gets popular, so there's no gay gatekeeping like in the west where they need to get their foot in the door first since it just made it so artists had a platform for publishers to browse like a shopping catalog for animators, mangaka and even writers.

Yet even with that, there's still a place for porn artists getting into the field like before and even going directly into making exclusively smut if they so choose. It's almost like Japan has a healthy industry where artists get by on their talents and body of work instead of sucking the right dick and having the right opinions.

 

[Yuusha-sama]

@Yuusha-sama OP has been updated to reflect your new findings.

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TheHeroOfTomorrow (formerly known as Shinobiflare, also known as TheCartoonHero) is a former commentator who's a reviewer and a huge fan of animation. The reason he quit making commenatries is because he wanted to focus more on reviewing animation and video games.

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His old Youtube:

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This is my channel, and you're welcome to it.

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[Eyeshield]

Interestingly, non-doujin artists in general have found themselves just starting a proper manga series on their accounts and then netting serialization deals when it gets popular, so there's no gay gatekeeping like in the west where they need to get their foot in the door first since it just made it so artists had a platform for publishers to browse like a shopping catalog for animators, mangaka and even writers.

Yet even with that, there's still a place for porn artists getting into the field like before and even going directly into making exclusively smut if they so choose. It's almost like Japan has a healthy industry where artists get by on their talents and body of work instead of sucking the right dick and having the right opinions.

And then you have stuff like Kaguya-Sama literally gaining its own official h-doujin series separate from the main series.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

And then you have stuff like Kaguya-Sama literally gaining its own official h-doujin series separate from the main series.

Excuse me, what!?

 

[Eyeshield]

Excuse me, what!?

Being Kaguya, it's not as overt as other examples, but it definitely lands in NSFW.

Kaguya Wants to be Confessed to Official Doujin

"Kaguya Wants to Be Confessed to" is a manga about “the war of love and brains” between two high school geniuses who try to make the other confess. This, however, is an "ero spinoff" that’ll make you wish it were part of the main series!

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[feral cat #6385]

So he has a degree in communications and he is a call center SME?

Sounds about right. There aren't what you call a lot of communications jobs. Looks like he hasn't had a real job in almost 2 years.

Very embarrassing resume. By Call Center Outsourcing SME I take it he has had "expertise" losing his job to the call center moving overseas.

 

[Stoneheart]

Isn’t writing dirty comics and shit how Linkara got his start?

They are dirty because he doesnt showers, not because they were erotic.

 

[Apterigo]

It's actually common in the industry for Japanese artists to get their start in drawing pornography. Western artists will never have the luxury of having a portfolio full of porn they've made actually securing them jobs in the comics, cartoon, and vidya industry. Even as hard as they sperg, they'll never actually reach the ears of the guys making hiring decisions based on how well artists draw anime tiddy in projects that may require anime tiddy in copious amounts.

I'd say I'd be shocked they work in the industry but don't even know basic stuff like that, but they don't actually work in the industry, let alone work at all given their twitter activity.

Funny thing is, 20 years ago the backlash would have come from the parents/ratings people about those artists. In Current Year, it would come from the SJW types who find that kind of thing too "problematic" to allow the artist to be platformed.

Unless it's gay/troon/NB/whatever art, of course. That's the right kind of sexualization to get a pass from them for being a good ally.

For extra context, I would like to point out that this was also very true for a lot of early western VAs who voiced (hilariously badly) dubbed hentai. The most famous example is Dan Green. Early in his VA career he starred in a number of voice roles for hentai - the most well known being Stepmother's Sin and Temptation (with lovely audio clip below)

Does anybody care? No, of course not. We all make the occasional joke about it (including Dan Green himself), and the world continues to turn. That's part of why I think anybody purely hating on Japanese artists for making porn is fucking stupid.

 

[Crazedking]

TBF Darling in the Franxx is relatively new and completely shit. Yabuki Kentaro (the guy who wrote ToLoveRu) tried to do it justice in his comic adaptation, but he had to go on hiatus because literally no one gives a shit and want him to continue ToLoveRu. I don't see why these SJWs give a fuck, but I guess shittier anime means a smaller fanbase that's easier to infect.

I've seen this fucker mentioned earlier in this thread. He's STILL going?‽ Holy fuck, get a life you weirdo.

We have seen an increase in ex-hentai artists debuting in more mainstream comic magazines like Weekly Shonen Jump. I'm just hoping they make official hentai doujin once their tenure is over.

Lmao tons of them indeed do hentai. One of my favorite artist BOICHI do lots of hentai and even is mainstream stuff is borderline or straight up porn at times. Havent checked Dr.Stone yet but being on Jump its probably toned down though japanese dont rly give a shit about having sexy attractive characters even in shonen.

 

[Eyeshield]

For extra context, I would like to point out that this was also very true for a lot of early western VAs who voiced (hilariously badly) dubbed hentai. The most famous example is Dan Green. Early in his VA career he starred in a number of voice roles for hentai - the most well known being Stepmother's Sin and Temptation (with lovely audio clip below)

Does anybody care? No, of course not. We all make the occasional joke about it (including Dan Green himself), and the world continues to turn. That's part of why I think anybody purely hating on Japanese artists for making porn is fucking stupid.

This also applied to other actors. Kazuma Kiryu's VA Takaya Kuroda also did gay hentai radio dramas (lovingly referenced in substories in Kiwami 2). Kamen Rider Blade's live actor Takayuki Tsubasa also starred in a porno, though because landed in a kid's TV series they like to forget that.

 

[Questioning_Huggers]

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 IIRC was also done by a doujin artist called saitom. In both cases, the artists were mostly restrained... Well, less so for saitom.

They both did work for Fate Grand Order. And they REALLY went wild there.

Raita (One Example) https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Minamoto_no_Raikō

Saitom: https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Bradamante#Skill_Reinforcement

Yeah, I don't understand people freaking out about this stuff. I've never heard anyone complain about Kouta Hirano's other works when they were reading Hellsing. There'd be jokes about it aplenty, but no one had an issue with it. Been rereading Drifters, actually, and the only complaints I've noticed at people crying that boohoo why does the Japanese man keep drawing Nazis doesn't he realize we beat them in that war and now they have to colonize their thoughts so their history matches ours this is all the fault of TRUMP'S AMERIKKKA!!!!1!

Ah, the ol "These two guys / gals I totally schlick it to are TOTES GAY they just can't say it OUTRIGHT because something something." Shipping. They can pretend it's "gay erasure" but it's almost never that -- Sailor Moon being one of the only examples, and that's because it was being done by the 4kids of the era, DIC. It's just that female incels think their sex fantasies are reality and if you disagree they will fucking murder you if they can.

To be fair, I don't think they even actually did any gay erasure with Uranus and Neptune. I am very aware that they called them cousins instead of lovers, but holy shit they did not take out any of the sexual tension. At all. I distinctly remember being uncomfortable with the Cousins being so close and looking at each other the same way that Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask did in kindergarten.

For extra context, I would like to point out that this was also very true for a lot of early western VAs who voiced (hilariously badly) dubbed hentai. The most famous example is Dan Green. Early in his VA career he starred in a number of voice roles for hentai - the most well known being Stepmother's Sin and Temptation (with lovely audio clip below)

Does anybody care? No, of course not. We all make the occasional joke about it (including Dan Green himself), and the world continues to turn. That's part of why I think anybody purely hating on Japanese artists for making porn is fucking stupid.

I had a friend send me a link to an old cartoon porn for a laugh, and then I heard the main character. It was Leonardo, from the original TMNT show. It wasn't even a slightly different voice. Just Cam Clarke, right there. I suppose it could have been worse. He could have been doing his Rocksteady voice.

 

[Yuusha-sama]

@Kiomei

His Facebook(Eli Stone) pics of interest:
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Feminist ally:

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He's a never Trumper, what a suprise.....

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[Pope of Degeneracy]

Perception Check released a Part II of her Weeb Wars series

Part I reupload for those who havent seen it:

 

[Apterigo]

Perception Check released a Part II of her Weeb Wars series

Part I reupload for those who havent seen it:

And people wonder why there's a 1730+ page thread on this shit. Almost an hour of video talking about the issue, and she hasn't even gotten to the actual lawsuit yet.

EDIT: Not to mention the dozen side threads, many of which are also at 50-250 pages each

 

[AnOminous]

And people wonder why there's a 1730+ page thread on this shit. Almost an hour of video talking about the issue, and she hasn't even gotten to the actual lawsuit yet.

I'm glad the weeb wars name has stuck. I honestly would have necked myself at yet another -gate.

 

[UY 690]

You should add a screenshot of his patreon:
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TheHeroOfTomorrow

TheHeroOfTomorrow (formerly known as Shinobiflare, also known as TheCartoonHero) is a former commentator who's a reviewer and a huge fan of animation. The reason he quit making commenatries is because he wanted to focus more on reviewing animation and video games.

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WTF! Why does Eli Stone have an IMDb page for his The Cartoon Hero review series? JESUS CHRIST! Dude, we get it! You wanna be famous just like Doug Welker and the other Channel Awesome reviewers. But this isn't the way to go and can only bite you in the ass years later once you have your own MeToo moment. Does his own mother not know he supported KickVic and their crazy bullshit? She would have a heart attack if she finds out.