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New Tapas comic
Even your Mary-Sue can't remember your secondary characters.
Even your Mary-Sue can't remember your secondary characters.
Sophie Labelle Verville / Guillaume Labelle / Serious Trans Vibes Comics / Assigned Male / Candycore Comics / Pastel Sexy Times / WafflesArt - Obnoxious webcomics and horrific porn by a crazy fat pedo troon
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This one probably doesn't even need an edit.
Kornula
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In a playwrighting class, our teacher gave us a fantastic example of how not to write from his own personal catalog. He wrote a play about how his stepfather had ruined his mothers by simply marrying her. She was this well educated, refined woman..and this man was literally a cave man...and in this first draft, he was the perpetual victim of this brutish person invading his family life. By his own admission, this first draft made him out to be the totally blameless hero with no flaws what so ever.
You'd think a writer would listen to at least one critique to improve their skills. But it looks like Stephie either totally ignores any criticism.. even from friends.. or his friends don't think his writing is shit. Either way, this train will keep wrecking itself every day it possibly can. This could be entertaining as long as the train doesn't do any collateral damage.
You'd think a writer would listen to at least one critique to improve their skills. But it looks like Stephie either totally ignores any criticism.. even from friends.. or his friends don't think his writing is shit. Either way, this train will keep wrecking itself every day it possibly can. This could be entertaining as long as the train doesn't do any collateral damage.
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You know what the central problem with these comics are? That they're propaganda, and nothing else. I have a ton of shit to say about these dumbass comics, but I'm sure they've already been said here numerous times. So instead, I'm gonna turn this shitty comic into a learning experience for anyone wanting to write their own stuff since, truth be told, these comics do nothing but reinforce my belief that SJWs in media have nothing to offer on a creative level.
Again, I'm not too sure if this is considered power-leveling, but I write my own stuff as a side thing, so to anyone else who's looking to write comics or any other media, I'm gonna offer you guys some advice:
There is zero issue with writing these kind of subjects in media. You can have a story that talks about trans issues, LGBT issues, gun issues, whatever, that's totally cool. But it's when you write comics based on one-sided arguments that it becomes problematic.
See, here ismy general beef with this comic: when you take away the shitty art and the author/illustrator's fixation on child genitalia, literally every one of Sophie's comics serve the explicit purpose of talking down anyone who's cis while also glorifying trans people and making them look like victims. Sophie spreads the message that all trans people are victims who are slighted on a daily basis, that everything they do is right, and if you're cis and disagree with it, then you're wrong. As a writer, this is reckless and irresponsible.
Why? Because Sophie (as a writer) isn't spreading any knowledge and isn't allowing the reader to think. Instead, she simply pummels you with rhetoric after rhetoric until the reader conforms to her twisted mindset. Every argument brought to the table is one-sided, and any opposing side is, at best, given no more than two panels to present a counter argument before it's ultimately shut down by rhetoric. I believe the writer attempts to do this to make her characters look smart, but all it does it make the characters unlikable.
A good writer can avoid this by bringing up both sides of whatever topical issue they want to address, lay out the positives and negatives of each side, not take a side themselves, and allow the readers to make the decision on their own. The effects of this method are three fold: the first, the media you're writing (comics, books, whatever) is more intelligent as a result. The second is that the readers feel more intelligent in turn. And finally, the third: it's just more engaging for the reader, and may even lead to intelligent discussions with other readers down the road. If you do what Sophie does and write nothing but one-sided arguments, then you're not only writing unoriginal and boring stories, but you run the risk of making your readers question or disregard their own intellect while also implying that they're too dumb to make a decision for themselves since, in you're eyes, everything you say is right, and if you don't conform to your way of thinking, then they're idiots and part of the problem. And that is the very definition of propaganda. And propaganda in and of itself is lazy, unintelligent, and dishonest.
In short, don't tell you're readers that "This is right" or that "This is wrong". Simply tell your reader that "This is". Allow your audience to make decisions for themselves, allow them to see both sides of the issue, and don't compound them with one-sided arguments. Don't tell your readers that they're wrong for not thinking like you do, because all you're going to do is make them look like fucking idiots, and the only ones that'll stick around are the unintelligent masses that you conditioned into believing your viewpoint, which is the very purpose of propaganda as a whole.
tl;dr: Sophie writes like an retard. Don't write like Sophie.
Amber the Hedgehog
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You can make a story that has very clear Right and Wrong, while keeping it entertaining. We usually call them morality tales but many stories of various genres especially for children have a clear moral going witch is part of appeal. People quite often enjoy good guys winning and bad guys getting their comeuppance.
Of course just having a good moral doesn’t make a good entertainment, it’s really more about how the moral is presented. Let’s take classical example from the bible, the good samaritan. If you read just it, it’s actually kinda bad and boring. A guy gets robbed, two people just go pass him but the third guy helps him out well beyond minimum. Super simple and predictable, except that’s not really the story, that bit is a story in a story. The real story is that Jesus gets asked how to be a good person.
Luke 10.25-29 World English Bible said:
This why Jesus told that simple story. Jews of time really hated samateritan and samateritan hatend them back. They would do straight up hate crimes against each other. So Jesus told a story where the enemy did the right thing while two others didn’t and then asked who would you feel neighborly towards. Message is clear and well made: your actions tell who you are, not what tripe you happen to be born in, so somebody being “the wrong kind” is no excuse to be a dick. Key to making good moral centric story is to show something about the moral. These can be things like why is this moral a good idea, why people struggle with it or what are the consequences if you go against the moral. You can be fairly simplistic about it as long as you don’t go full srawman. This will make not only much more entertaining story but also will do better job at convincing that what you are preaching is good and true. So do what Jesus did and show not tell.
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Hey, Abigail's back! Her big lips are gone, though.
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One milion readers
When even photoshop can't make you look like a dainty schoolgirl
Forgot your cable
Too lazy to invent new lies
When even photoshop can't make you look like a dainty schoolgirl
Forgot your cable
Too lazy to invent new lies
Fingal Olsson
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Even that is kinda nuanced.
Some of the most celebrated comics of all time are EC's social issues comics from the 50s, and they go against most of what you talk about here.
Look at the below pages, for instance. The "issue at hand" (which was a bit more controversial in the 50s than it is now, but I doubt I have to tell you that) is presented as completely one-sided. The "wrong side" are presented with all kinds of negative traits, while the "right side" are presented with good ones. No attempt is made to make it look like the "wrong side" could even potentially have a point, and there's even a note a the end that tells you exactly how terrible the "wrong side" is.
Yet it's still a good, well written and powerful comic. It'd actually be kind of interesting to do a comparison and point out what EC did right and Sophie does so horribly wrong, since they're such goddamn polar opposites.
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New totally original poster
And a new Tapas comic
Did you forget to upload the story arc about the sea otters' project
And a new Tapas comic
Did you forget to upload the story arc about the sea otters' project
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"I feel safe enough with you to rape you, but not safe enough to tell you about my girlcock before I rape you with it! Honhonhon!"
Stephies legs are so danm long
"Otter" is a gay slang term, for skinny and hairy guys, maybe Ciel is talking about porn
Did you forget to upload the story arc about the sea otters' project
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"It's as if I did met them"
Fucking lol
Has Ciel always had this weird amnesia thing or is this a new development?
Fucking lol
Has Ciel always had this weird amnesia thing or is this a new development?
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It's just Billy trying to make him some kind of **~quirky~**, **~unique~** character instead of, ya know, giving him a personality other than "wannabe tranny faggot".
Instead he just comes off as someone who is self-absorbed to the max, or has an autistic "random-access humor" style, or...a wannabe tranny faggot.
BScCollateral
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That's the thing about writing or any other art: you can come up with rules on what makes it good or bad and then someone can whip out something brilliant that breaks those rules. I don't know why that's true, but it is.
I think part of it in this case is that the EC comics were anthologies. The stories were six pages long, and you'd get a "social" story maybe every two or three issues, mixed in with horror and crime stories about nasty men having their fat rendered down to fry their equally nasty business partner - ALIVE. The EC books were not a continual, monotone drone.
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Fingal Olsson
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Eh, that's not quite true. The social issue stories were printed in Shock Suspenstories, an "EC sampler" anthology that contained one horror story, one crime story, one sci-fi story and one story tackling social issues every issue, but the other books they published were all genre anthologies that contained four stories from the same genre. So their horror books had four horror stories each issue, their sci fi books had four sci fi stories per issue, their war books had four war stories per issue, etc.
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Confirmed Ciel literally wants to murder black people as they don't remember their black friend.
I know it's been said before but I hate how this comic seems to flux so much with ages. Are they 11 or are they 17? Who knows?
I know it's been said before but I hate how this comic seems to flux so much with ages. Are they 11 or are they 17? Who knows?
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This portrait is the closest Labill will ever get to self deprecation.
Stephie really is gonna crash into a wall, isn't she? Who is she talking to?
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Exactly this. But you'd think LaBelle would be more reluctant to have her self-insert troon suggesting that their worldview was based on 'feels before reals', considering troons only exist because they think facts and science don't matter.
It also means 'they've gone to see the otters' is now a euphemism for 'they've gone full, uncritically accepting, pro-troon everything'. I know a few people who've gone to see the otters in my time.
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