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Mumkey Jones / Tyler Millard / Simian Jimmy / @VincentHatesGod & Ashley Simonetti / Liu the Kitty - Unfunny creepy degenerate "le edgy" reviewer cheated on his girlfriend for a pedophile furfag and cries fake sympathy and depression
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So I thought I'd chime in with some stuff after watching Nulls well done stream. Other than people correcting Null that OJJ is not the 15 year old, but he was a twitch streamer who was just interested in her and realized far too late he made a mistake (they didn't even bang).
I agreed with @Null stream on 90ish% of what he said, however I disagree with him on one thing. Null said meeting Tommy C and getting with other youtubers was the downfall of Mumkey, not the youtube termination. He however was saying this as someone seeing it with brand new eyes.
I may seem a bit biased because I dislike the person I'm gonna explain why I think it was their down fall:
I think Mumkey began the downward spiral when he became IRL friends with Asterios Kokkinos.
There are a few things I suspect but have no proof of. Once Asterios ghosted Dick, Mumkey did the same. When Mumkey was ready to go on Dicks show to talk (Which Dick has been beyond supportive of and has personally helped by doing stuff like coding Mumkey his own site so his content didn't go dead in the water), Mumkey suddenly decides not to. My guess is Asterios yelled at him to avoid Mumkey doing something to ruin Asterios's reputation... but just a suspicion.
The thing that makes this whole thing so crazy is that it's Mumkey doing it to himself and making it exponentially worse every "good" step foreward he believes he's taking for something that seems relatively easy to of fixed in the begining. People cheat and break up all the time. People accidently stick their dick in crazy all the time. People do dumb shit for a girl all the time. This should of been a simple week of getting shit on that has turned into a multi month saga.
I agreed with @Null stream on 90ish% of what he said, however I disagree with him on one thing. Null said meeting Tommy C and getting with other youtubers was the downfall of Mumkey, not the youtube termination. He however was saying this as someone seeing it with brand new eyes.
I may seem a bit biased because I dislike the person I'm gonna explain why I think it was their down fall:
I think Mumkey began the downward spiral when he became IRL friends with Asterios Kokkinos.
How did Ecelebs benefit Mumkey?
* One of Mumkey's schticks was working on joint projects and then those joint projects would blow up in spectacular and weird ways. Digibro blew up because some of Mumkeys fans were assholes and Digibro wanted Mumkey to control his fans. Mumkey told him to leave Digibro alone, but he wasn't gonna be the baby sitter for them, and Digibro and Mumkey got into a huge beef over it and then ended the beef not cause anything got resolved, but cause they both thought that it was too gay to keep arguing about.
* There were other collabs, first episode of Boomer vs. Zoomer covers a bunch of them
* He also would colab with lolcows and then let that blow up. A great example is he made a Podcast with David Clegg the outed that Clegg was dating a 12 year old.
* Mumkey usually would just say offensive shit no matter who he was talking to. It was funny cause he'd dig in hard and you can hear how his friends would try and laugh it off but were still a bit bothered. I think this is what he tried doing with sheep when she cut all ties to him because he was too doped up to realize that his situation with sheep was not one of comedy or business, it was her doing him a favor after he wronged her in the worse most public way for 0 reason which means she doesn't want or have to put up with your childish bullshit while she consoles him cause he's crying about why everyone is mad at him for fucking her over.
Why do I blame Asterios (other than I have a hate boner for him)
I have a hate boner for Asterios, so I'm not gonna hide my bias, but I will try and make this as objective as I can. I feel I can do this because my hate for Asterios is rooted a lot in him making Mumkey suck.
* What a lot of people don't realize is how much Mumkey looked up to Asterios and thought being IRL friends with Asterios was never gonna happen. I know it seems like he may be overplaying it in his depressed videos, but Mumkey really did see Asterios as something to aspire to.
* Mumkey started getting bigger, and eventually gets noticed because he is just a regular person hanging around in the Dick show community. Meanwhile, Asterios was going through the lol suit, to which he would lose his IRL job, and while getting an initial boost in online support so large he believed he could be an online comedian 24/7 then slowly started realizing the support base he had wasn't the one he wanted.
* Mumkey and Asterios became IRL friends because Asterios used to invite other semi-popular e-celeb people in TDS's community to do Wifu wars. They genuinely hit it off, and Mumkey was invited back a shit ton to be a guest in Asterios's stuff.
* If you don't know much about Asterios, he's a drug addict. I don't say that being hyperbolic, after Biggest Problem ended he almost killed himself on opiods and went to rehab. When Asterios stopped being funny; he'd constantly go on about addiction, how he was a victim and siracha even had a podcast episode with him where she's telling him "dude, you become a massive loser when you smoke too much weed and you need to cool it."
* When ever Mumkey visited Asterios, first thing they'd do is get fucked up together because how can you say no to someone you look up to telling you "common, smoke with me buddy." As covered in the Meatman video, Mumkey wasn't a straight edge kid or anything but using wasn't his thing. Meatman claims it was Liu that caused him to seek out stuff hard, but honestly it started sooner.
* Mumkey and Asterios finally start a regular project together. Asterios is seeing this as a Major business opportunity that can help him grow (especially after he disavowed TDS for not alligning with his politics) and Mumkey sees it as a chance to work with one of his favorite comedians. Show actually starts off well as Mumkey does his normal thing and its funny. However there is an obvious difference later on...
* When mumkey did e-celeb crap before he didn't care too much if it fell apart so he kinda just did whatever he wanted. This usually resulted in Mumkey fans pleased & a gain in some new fans who found what he did funny. While it was an ongoing joke that the podcast would end because Mumkey trolls his co-hosts and Asterios is notoriously easily triggered, there was no hope in hell it would last.
* Asterios began taking charge of how the podcast was done with Mumkey being the "yes" man to all of Asterios's dumb shit. Asterios doesn't show up when he said he would cause he was too hung over, Mumkey changed when they would do it to accomidate him (this happened all the time btw). When Mumkey was about to go on Alex Jones because his youtube got taken down, Asterios sperged out on him and made Mumkey publicly appologize on the show to him because Mumkey didn't realize that since Asterios was looking for a job being associated with an Alex Jones guest made him look bad, and could keep him unemployed. This becomes a key moment, because once Mumkey does this Asterios continues to do this with many of the offensive joke or opinions that Asterios feels offended by and Mumkey will give in and appologize in order to keep his idol working with him (hence why in the cheating announcement video he appologizes to Asterios for fighting with him over saying he thought the girl power moment in Avengers End Game was dumb, he saw that fight as important as ruining his relationship with his GF)
* What ends up happening in Boomer v. Zoomer (go through it and listen but it will take till 3 episodes after Mumkey got dumped by youtube to see how bad everything got) Asterios starts taking control. This causes the podcast to got to shit because it becomes way too obvious Asterios's vision is that it will be a liberal safe ad supported podcast that he wants to sell to advertisers and then become big, and Mumkey is walking on egg shells to not actually piss off Asterios to the point where he no longer wants to work with him but still carry the edgey comedy of the the show cause if he's not funny anymore Asterios will also leave.
* Asterios starts giving Mumkey life advice that Mumkey takes to heart and takes very seriously. If you have no idea why this is a bad thing, Asterios's reputation is that of a drug addict with 0 self control who constantly spergs out on fans because he has to constantly be political, never misses an opportunity to virtue signal, ghosts his problems and demands that people coddle him because that what he thinks shows you care.
* It becomes clear after Mumkey got banned from youtube, then when he attempted to speak out about it only for Asterios to make him publicly appologize for how who he gives interviews too reflects on Asterios. Asterios uses Mumkey's depression as a chance to virtue signal what a great guy he is and has entire episodes that are not funny at all and are just Asterios coddling Mumkey and giving him generic advice that is so cliche its annoying.
* People begin tuning out of the show durring a time when Mumkey feels no one cares about him anymore with his co-host who is incapable of taking any responsibility for his own actions. Turns out when the guy leading the comedy show wants the show to stop being funny, yells at the co-host for being too offensive even though that's his thing his fans like, there is no regular upload time because Asterios is too fucked up to be bothered to show up, and Asterioses advice to his co-host who says he'd rather not have these talks on the show but the lead Talent can't miss a chance to let people know what a super good person he is, then tells mumkey to focus less on being funny take a week off the show to be self indulgent and go see a psych and maybe look into anti depressants.... the fans you had tuning in for a comedy show stop listening.
* While this is happening (and while it is clear Mumkey is a wreck) Asterios tells Mumkey to do live shows. This is where he meets Lui
* The rest is history. I do wanna add one more thing, I'm 99% sure that Asterios knew what was going on. Given Mumkey was low on funds, Mumkey was telling Asterios everything, Lui lives at home and Mumkey was spending weekends with Lui without Sheepover even thinking about it, and Asterios's advice is usually self indulgence... I find it unlikely Mumkey was dropping hundreds of dollars to spend the night in hotels with Lui and just disapering for no reason. It seems more likely Asterios was giving Mumkey cover as an excuse (and seeing as sheep was also close with Asterios he actively would have to lie to her to provide cover) and was letting him crash there at the very least.
* Also don't believe for a second just because Asterios is a feminist he wouldn't allow this to happen. I know someone personally who Asterios tried to fuck behind Siracha's back, then when she turned him down and refused to send nudes he blocked her from everything.
* Once it became clear that Mumkey was seriously damaged after the blow out from this, Asterios cut all ties because he doesn't want it affecting his "brand." Asterios threw him away.
* One of Mumkey's schticks was working on joint projects and then those joint projects would blow up in spectacular and weird ways. Digibro blew up because some of Mumkeys fans were assholes and Digibro wanted Mumkey to control his fans. Mumkey told him to leave Digibro alone, but he wasn't gonna be the baby sitter for them, and Digibro and Mumkey got into a huge beef over it and then ended the beef not cause anything got resolved, but cause they both thought that it was too gay to keep arguing about.
* There were other collabs, first episode of Boomer vs. Zoomer covers a bunch of them
* He also would colab with lolcows and then let that blow up. A great example is he made a Podcast with David Clegg the outed that Clegg was dating a 12 year old.
* Mumkey usually would just say offensive shit no matter who he was talking to. It was funny cause he'd dig in hard and you can hear how his friends would try and laugh it off but were still a bit bothered. I think this is what he tried doing with sheep when she cut all ties to him because he was too doped up to realize that his situation with sheep was not one of comedy or business, it was her doing him a favor after he wronged her in the worse most public way for 0 reason which means she doesn't want or have to put up with your childish bullshit while she consoles him cause he's crying about why everyone is mad at him for fucking her over.
Why do I blame Asterios (other than I have a hate boner for him)
I have a hate boner for Asterios, so I'm not gonna hide my bias, but I will try and make this as objective as I can. I feel I can do this because my hate for Asterios is rooted a lot in him making Mumkey suck.
* What a lot of people don't realize is how much Mumkey looked up to Asterios and thought being IRL friends with Asterios was never gonna happen. I know it seems like he may be overplaying it in his depressed videos, but Mumkey really did see Asterios as something to aspire to.
* Mumkey started getting bigger, and eventually gets noticed because he is just a regular person hanging around in the Dick show community. Meanwhile, Asterios was going through the lol suit, to which he would lose his IRL job, and while getting an initial boost in online support so large he believed he could be an online comedian 24/7 then slowly started realizing the support base he had wasn't the one he wanted.
* Mumkey and Asterios became IRL friends because Asterios used to invite other semi-popular e-celeb people in TDS's community to do Wifu wars. They genuinely hit it off, and Mumkey was invited back a shit ton to be a guest in Asterios's stuff.
* If you don't know much about Asterios, he's a drug addict. I don't say that being hyperbolic, after Biggest Problem ended he almost killed himself on opiods and went to rehab. When Asterios stopped being funny; he'd constantly go on about addiction, how he was a victim and siracha even had a podcast episode with him where she's telling him "dude, you become a massive loser when you smoke too much weed and you need to cool it."
* When ever Mumkey visited Asterios, first thing they'd do is get fucked up together because how can you say no to someone you look up to telling you "common, smoke with me buddy." As covered in the Meatman video, Mumkey wasn't a straight edge kid or anything but using wasn't his thing. Meatman claims it was Liu that caused him to seek out stuff hard, but honestly it started sooner.
* Mumkey and Asterios finally start a regular project together. Asterios is seeing this as a Major business opportunity that can help him grow (especially after he disavowed TDS for not alligning with his politics) and Mumkey sees it as a chance to work with one of his favorite comedians. Show actually starts off well as Mumkey does his normal thing and its funny. However there is an obvious difference later on...
* When mumkey did e-celeb crap before he didn't care too much if it fell apart so he kinda just did whatever he wanted. This usually resulted in Mumkey fans pleased & a gain in some new fans who found what he did funny. While it was an ongoing joke that the podcast would end because Mumkey trolls his co-hosts and Asterios is notoriously easily triggered, there was no hope in hell it would last.
* Asterios began taking charge of how the podcast was done with Mumkey being the "yes" man to all of Asterios's dumb shit. Asterios doesn't show up when he said he would cause he was too hung over, Mumkey changed when they would do it to accomidate him (this happened all the time btw). When Mumkey was about to go on Alex Jones because his youtube got taken down, Asterios sperged out on him and made Mumkey publicly appologize on the show to him because Mumkey didn't realize that since Asterios was looking for a job being associated with an Alex Jones guest made him look bad, and could keep him unemployed. This becomes a key moment, because once Mumkey does this Asterios continues to do this with many of the offensive joke or opinions that Asterios feels offended by and Mumkey will give in and appologize in order to keep his idol working with him (hence why in the cheating announcement video he appologizes to Asterios for fighting with him over saying he thought the girl power moment in Avengers End Game was dumb, he saw that fight as important as ruining his relationship with his GF)
* What ends up happening in Boomer v. Zoomer (go through it and listen but it will take till 3 episodes after Mumkey got dumped by youtube to see how bad everything got) Asterios starts taking control. This causes the podcast to got to shit because it becomes way too obvious Asterios's vision is that it will be a liberal safe ad supported podcast that he wants to sell to advertisers and then become big, and Mumkey is walking on egg shells to not actually piss off Asterios to the point where he no longer wants to work with him but still carry the edgey comedy of the the show cause if he's not funny anymore Asterios will also leave.
* Asterios starts giving Mumkey life advice that Mumkey takes to heart and takes very seriously. If you have no idea why this is a bad thing, Asterios's reputation is that of a drug addict with 0 self control who constantly spergs out on fans because he has to constantly be political, never misses an opportunity to virtue signal, ghosts his problems and demands that people coddle him because that what he thinks shows you care.
* It becomes clear after Mumkey got banned from youtube, then when he attempted to speak out about it only for Asterios to make him publicly appologize for how who he gives interviews too reflects on Asterios. Asterios uses Mumkey's depression as a chance to virtue signal what a great guy he is and has entire episodes that are not funny at all and are just Asterios coddling Mumkey and giving him generic advice that is so cliche its annoying.
* People begin tuning out of the show durring a time when Mumkey feels no one cares about him anymore with his co-host who is incapable of taking any responsibility for his own actions. Turns out when the guy leading the comedy show wants the show to stop being funny, yells at the co-host for being too offensive even though that's his thing his fans like, there is no regular upload time because Asterios is too fucked up to be bothered to show up, and Asterioses advice to his co-host who says he'd rather not have these talks on the show but the lead Talent can't miss a chance to let people know what a super good person he is, then tells mumkey to focus less on being funny take a week off the show to be self indulgent and go see a psych and maybe look into anti depressants.... the fans you had tuning in for a comedy show stop listening.
* While this is happening (and while it is clear Mumkey is a wreck) Asterios tells Mumkey to do live shows. This is where he meets Lui
* The rest is history. I do wanna add one more thing, I'm 99% sure that Asterios knew what was going on. Given Mumkey was low on funds, Mumkey was telling Asterios everything, Lui lives at home and Mumkey was spending weekends with Lui without Sheepover even thinking about it, and Asterios's advice is usually self indulgence... I find it unlikely Mumkey was dropping hundreds of dollars to spend the night in hotels with Lui and just disapering for no reason. It seems more likely Asterios was giving Mumkey cover as an excuse (and seeing as sheep was also close with Asterios he actively would have to lie to her to provide cover) and was letting him crash there at the very least.
* Also don't believe for a second just because Asterios is a feminist he wouldn't allow this to happen. I know someone personally who Asterios tried to fuck behind Siracha's back, then when she turned him down and refused to send nudes he blocked her from everything.
* Once it became clear that Mumkey was seriously damaged after the blow out from this, Asterios cut all ties because he doesn't want it affecting his "brand." Asterios threw him away.
There are a few things I suspect but have no proof of. Once Asterios ghosted Dick, Mumkey did the same. When Mumkey was ready to go on Dicks show to talk (Which Dick has been beyond supportive of and has personally helped by doing stuff like coding Mumkey his own site so his content didn't go dead in the water), Mumkey suddenly decides not to. My guess is Asterios yelled at him to avoid Mumkey doing something to ruin Asterios's reputation... but just a suspicion.
* Listen to Nulls stream and try and take lessons from it. I thought it was extremely even handed and accurate and there is a lot of great take away from it. It's critical, but where its critical is not from a place of malice
* Listen to what ever advice Dick is gonna give you. This is the most important part because what makes much of the Dickshow funny other than Dicks rants, is the comedy that comes from Dick giving genuine straight shooter successful advice and the lolcows that are guests not listening because they feel they know better than the guy who makes over $20k a month for his hobby, is in good shape, has a healthy relationship with his family and his girl, isn't a moralfag who will regurgitate the same old crap, and founded a successful ad company that he still works at. Add to this Dick genuinely cares a lot about Mumkey, has been one of his most vocal advocates despite everything, and has experience being the guy who is deplatformed and having to rebuild from square one, this is the guy whose advice you need to listen to. He might not coddle you, but its for your own good.
* Slowly Taper off the SSRIs (stop suddenly you will fuck yourself up), and do TMS theorpy instead. Chance of TMS fixing your depressing is 33%, and 33% of improvement at the very least. SSRI's have a success rate of 5% and are clearly ruinging your creativity. The thing about appathy is if you don't care about being funny or editing your videos to be to the point when your job is to create easily digestible funny content.... things will never get better and people will lose interest.
* Let it hurt. Sometimes pain is a great source of creativity and if you utilize it the right way you can do a lot with it.
* What you feel for Lui isn't love, its co-dependancy. I've talked to her and talked to other people who talked to her and the main thing that is clear is she always plays the victim card to get sympathy, which leads to many guys seeing her as the girl they can fix and mold into the person they wish she could be. She sells everyone out in a heart beat. She sold you out, she sold the 15 year old out, she sold OJJ out. She is incapable of taking responsibility for anything she does because if she does she is no longer a victim and people won't try and fix her. You can't fix her. No one can fix her. Even if you don't agree she is a monster, the fact of the matter is you cannot fix her and if you cannot accept her as the person she is now then you have to realize that it isn't going to get better no matter how much time and effort you sink into it, and seeing all the time and effort as a reason to not give up is a sunk cost fallacy.
I don't expect you to read this or even if you do take it seriously... I guess a guy who enjoyed Mumkey for so long and has watched him self destruct from a specific point, I want to throw my dumb opinion up somewhere where it.
* Listen to what ever advice Dick is gonna give you. This is the most important part because what makes much of the Dickshow funny other than Dicks rants, is the comedy that comes from Dick giving genuine straight shooter successful advice and the lolcows that are guests not listening because they feel they know better than the guy who makes over $20k a month for his hobby, is in good shape, has a healthy relationship with his family and his girl, isn't a moralfag who will regurgitate the same old crap, and founded a successful ad company that he still works at. Add to this Dick genuinely cares a lot about Mumkey, has been one of his most vocal advocates despite everything, and has experience being the guy who is deplatformed and having to rebuild from square one, this is the guy whose advice you need to listen to. He might not coddle you, but its for your own good.
* Slowly Taper off the SSRIs (stop suddenly you will fuck yourself up), and do TMS theorpy instead. Chance of TMS fixing your depressing is 33%, and 33% of improvement at the very least. SSRI's have a success rate of 5% and are clearly ruinging your creativity. The thing about appathy is if you don't care about being funny or editing your videos to be to the point when your job is to create easily digestible funny content.... things will never get better and people will lose interest.
* Let it hurt. Sometimes pain is a great source of creativity and if you utilize it the right way you can do a lot with it.
* What you feel for Lui isn't love, its co-dependancy. I've talked to her and talked to other people who talked to her and the main thing that is clear is she always plays the victim card to get sympathy, which leads to many guys seeing her as the girl they can fix and mold into the person they wish she could be. She sells everyone out in a heart beat. She sold you out, she sold the 15 year old out, she sold OJJ out. She is incapable of taking responsibility for anything she does because if she does she is no longer a victim and people won't try and fix her. You can't fix her. No one can fix her. Even if you don't agree she is a monster, the fact of the matter is you cannot fix her and if you cannot accept her as the person she is now then you have to realize that it isn't going to get better no matter how much time and effort you sink into it, and seeing all the time and effort as a reason to not give up is a sunk cost fallacy.
I don't expect you to read this or even if you do take it seriously... I guess a guy who enjoyed Mumkey for so long and has watched him self destruct from a specific point, I want to throw my dumb opinion up somewhere where it.
The thing that makes this whole thing so crazy is that it's Mumkey doing it to himself and making it exponentially worse every "good" step foreward he believes he's taking for something that seems relatively easy to of fixed in the begining. People cheat and break up all the time. People accidently stick their dick in crazy all the time. People do dumb shit for a girl all the time. This should of been a simple week of getting shit on that has turned into a multi month saga.
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I was on a podcast with Mumkey and a friend of his about a year ago, back when I was a huge fan. It was a Star Wars debate podcast, called Soy Wars. Yeah, I know, Star Wars. I honestly just wanted an excuse to talk to someone I was a pretty big fan of. When I went on he was nice, and cordial, but afterwards he seemed pretty condescending and not friendly at all. And while, yeah, he's an edgy youtuber, why would he be, for someone who took about an hour out of their day, who is a huge fan, and leaving immediately after the podcast recording was done rubbed me the wrong way. Afterwards, I kept reaching out to him, during his channel being deleted. He didn't reply any single time. We talked earlier a bit before that, just generic stuff, but it was really odd for him not to just let people know, his fans know, how he was doing.
I'm way bigger friends with Meatman. Now that everything has come out, Mumkey is a piece of shit, and Meatman is genuinely a good person. If anyone has any questions about what happened with either of them, whether relating to each other, or just generally, ama.
I'm way bigger friends with Meatman. Now that everything has come out, Mumkey is a piece of shit, and Meatman is genuinely a good person. If anyone has any questions about what happened with either of them, whether relating to each other, or just generally, ama.
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Gotta link?
I mean, he was there to record a podcast, how much were you expecting him to just hang out afterwards. Condecendtion is never a good look though, I try and mask mine with hyperbolic sarcasm.
Meatmans okay. Pretty sure he hung out and played videogames with us a few times but not sure. He did a really funny thing with the end of a podcast called two friends and Xicarra where he makes a girls sperg out and it makes the entire podcast worth listening to backwards because you wonder what the hell did this girl due to be driven to a point where she is screaming and crying because no one will pay attention to her.I try not to be an e celeb worshipper, but I have my exceptions (mainly Dick Masterson)
I mean I don't see it as a one or the other type thing. Honestly if Mumkey kept up his whole thing of uncomfortable co host podcast partners that would be one hell of a shit show I'd listened to.
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I can't post a link to it, since his youtube channel was taken down, but yeah.
I wasn't expecting like a full conversation just like a thanks for coming on or whatever afterwards, but he said "I have to go" immediately after we ended recording iirc. It just seemed abrupt I guess. I actually did have a nice conversation with the other co host though, who was notably smaller.
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I'm gonna go ahead and white-knight Asterios again and say that he has been completely sober for months now.
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World Star
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How do you think someone who is 24 years old and lost his virginity in highschool hasn't experience any heart break?
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What does Asterios being sober for 2 whole months (wow, what an accomplishment for someone who has been looking for a job for over a year) have to do with being the catalyst for mumkey's downfall? It doesn't change anything else.
But I'll bite and go off topic. Hell I will even assume he's telling the truth as opposed to the pattern of behavior we've seen where he starts this bullshit and then relapses and fails, then talks about how its not his fault cause hes a poor addict. You know what makes the Asterios sobriety thing so fucking obnoxious. He made a big deal about it, anounced and virtue signaled it, and decided to do it because working out and not drinking was originally how Mumkey described thats how he was gonna try dealing with his slump from losing youtube.
Asterios Kokkinos being an addict who has zero control over his impulses is not my words, they are the words of Asterios himself. The fact he makes such a massive stink over not using drugs for 2 months speaks even more to what an addict he is.
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As long as it's under a spoiler.
EDIT: Dumb me thought I was on the last page, but please keep the advice.
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Her Twitter is back then? What happened with it disappearing? But this is good news, assuming we can take the word of a serial manipulator as truth. I would love nothing more than for her to reform her ways, for Tyler to be able to point and say "See? You were all wrong!" but I still doubt that is going to happen.
Also, as a completely separate side-note, does anyone know what is happening with Mumkey's grandma? She seemed like more of a parent than his actual parents and I had heard she was seriously sick. Is she better, or is that an ongoing thing? She seems like she would slap some sense into him and then tell him truths with her sweet grandma voice.
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I think this whole engagement thing is probably only done to cross out a point on some gay ass bucket list before both of them cap their noggins out. Not that I blame them too much for wanting to be remembered as slightly less degenerate.
World Star
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She could be telling the 'truth' for all we know but it's unlikely that this will remain true in a couple of months.
All relationship born on lies and deceit are doomed to fail anyway.
I'm looking forward to the dickshow tomorrow this should be interesting/entertaining at the very least.
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Is the Dick Show interview still happening? Could someone fill me in with details, as in is there a way to watch it live or is it all posted later? I've watched clips of The Dick Show before and always thought he was great on TRR (until the Great Guntening) but haven't went out of my way to watch the show in the past.
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It is live but it's locked behind a paywall (patreon) so unless you want to give him 20 for a stream that may or may not be happening, the best bet would just to hold out on someone leaking it.
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Live is behind a paywall but every Tuesday the audio is posted free on his site
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We'll see. Asterios has disavowed Mumkey and Dick has genuinely been trying to help Mumkey... So unless Mumkey pussies out again good chance he'll come on. Show is behind a paywall for the live show, but it releases on Tuesday for free.
Jesus Christ, she is the worse kind of person. She's twisting things in order to justify her shitty decision but still keep living with a broken dude she sold out and would sell out again in a heart beat if it lets her play the victim.
I guess she realized she can't live with a 15 year old who keeps throwing tantrums when she reminds him she should probably not fuck her anymore cause its a crime. BTW dunno if someone posted the kids public reaction to this whole thing but....
I've spoken to her and talked about her whole situation. I can tell you now, she is dumb as a rock and she'll talk to anyone who will give her attention. I hope to god Dick talks sense into Mumkey. Liu is calling in too BTW, I think what makes Mumkey tune everyone out is its the same dead horse moral fagging when people tell her why he should leave her "She's a pedo furry degenerate". When you are in love, and by love I mean co-dependent, with someone whose fucked up you've already accepted their past fuck ups and are seeking to fix them. You see those who don't approve as needlessly attacking you for feelings you can't help.
What works best is pointing out how they are fucking up currently and the shitty things they are doing to you now that aren't changing.
She's not. She wants something from Mumkey or wants people to stop attacking him.
>With Mumkey she tried saying what a mooch loser who manipulated her he was. Maybe thats the case, but honestly she sounds more bitter Mumkey didn't lavish his side ho with shit and made her pay for her own crap. She also met him at HIS own comedy show. This bitch trying to pretend she wasn't a fan of Mumkey is such image management garbage.
>The 15 year old she claims to be a victim of black mail and can't stop or he'll ruin her life. Of coursed when pushed on how to cut ties, or reminded that black mail is illegal too, she flip flops that she still cares about him.
>All OJJ did was tell her he didn't wanna speak to her anymore after he learned what a crazy fucked up person she is. She claimed she was so hurt she went to the mental hospital. Upon getting out she doxed him, gave out his phone number, got thirsty furry fan boys to call his job and try to get him fired, paid people $200 to go to his work with bats and beat him (and she ended up getting scammed), then claimed that OJJ knew about everything and was cool with her pedo past, then claim OJJ was a rapist. Dude didn't even smash, he just wanted to give it a shot.
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When did that happen? I thought Asterios was one of the few who stuck by him. But I haven't really been paying attention to that 'cause I barely know who Asterios is.