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So with all that it came down to relying on Ron and Monica to decide whether to depose Vic, but at the cost of Ron and Monica being deposed, or avoid Ron and Monica being deposed, but at the cost of Vic not being deposed and the judge being slightly annoyed. They chose the first one, despite it being a horrible idea without having a confidentiality agreement in place.

They had no really good reason to be so pathologically obsessed with deposing Vic, had very little to gain by it, and in fact did gain very little by doing it at this point, while spending enormous amounts of money to do it. Meanwhile, Toye's testimony may have nuked at least Toye's own affirmative defense.

While sight unseen, I wouldn't think Monica would do worse, and from all accounts in fact did do better, I don't see what's better for Monica to have deposition testimony about something that could just as well have been established at the TCPA stage with an affidavit without Monica having any risk of contradicting herself.
 
Shane :If priests raped underage little boys, therefore without a doubt vic being a Christian just proves he molested and raped children:

When people were saying people hated vic for his religious beliefes i never believed them.

Holy fuck was i wrong
 

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Shane :If priests raped underage little boys, therefore without a doubt vic being a Christian just proves he molested and raped children:

When people were saying people hated vic for his religious beliefes i never believed them.

Holy fuck was i wrong
Priests have taken advantage of children in the past. Priests are Christian's. Ronald Toye III is a Christian. Therefore, Ronald Toye III takes advantage of children.
 
I think it's because I subconsciously remember it from a comedy or something, but I keep expecting moronicas lawyers at some point to pose an argument along the lines of,

Furher Lemon:"Your honer, I demand that my clients entire deposition be struck from the record, and that they never be brought in person before a jury"

Judge:"on what grounds"

Furher Lemon:"You see, my clients are such thoroughly bitter, poisoness, mean spirited, hostile, and such generally unlikable people that being presented in front of a jury will unfairly alter the perception they have on the case. I mean, just look at them. Vic could confess to everything right now and a jury would still take his side, Soley on the grounds that Monika and Ron look like Jabba the hut and that weird little imp thing that presumably lives in his fat flabs, respectively"

Judge:"Well, you make a good point. I myself do indeed throw up in a grotuatus fashion every time they enter the room. Ty, what is your opinion on this"

Ty:"Your Honer, I would put forward that the impulse to vomet would at least be halved if Ron did not always enter the room tucked under Monika's back fat roll. For me personally, the way he has to slide out in to his seat.... The sound of his small body practically exeting hers... I........"

Furher lemon:"...,....."

Judge:"............"

Ty:"I'm.... I'm sorry"

Judge:"Let it be put on the record that all present have vomited"
 
Shane :If priests raped underage little boys, therefore without a doubt vic being a Christian just proves he molested and raped children:

When people were saying people hated vic for his religious beliefes i never believed them.

Holy fuck was i wrong
Yep, that's mostly a holdover from the decade or more of abuse hurled at him by the yaoi obsessed tactical acne caches.

Again, we have to remember: this started as a blood grudge during the Bush administration. If you weren't politically active during this time it's hard to adequately describe the amount of shitting on christians that occurred then, but this particular strain of rhetoric I'm seeing from the other side is a very well preserved little time capsule of the vitriol I distinctly remember from around then.

It's like carbon dating but for sociopaths.
 
Priests have taken advantage of children in the past. Priests are Christian's. Ronald Toye III is a Christian. Therefore, Ronald Toye III takes advantage of children.
Men have taken advantage of children in the past. Men are masculine. Ronald Toye III is... fuck I messed it up. Can I object to form on my own response?
 
Guess what bitch is voicing Ed in Death Battle then?
Also, Domnique skye in the comments of kaggyfilms announcement lol.
A shitty man for a shitty show, those vultures belong with each other
Good thing the manga and all versions of anime are finished, then, and the author doesn't seem to have any intention to go back to her masterpiece. And trying to re-dub both FMA seems like such a waste of time and money, tbh, that if Failmation has even 1% of the intelligence they were supposed to have (and they don't), they will not even touch it.

Ah, Death Battle. Probably the biggest punching bag of the vs community of the Internet. As a guy who's seen every episode, I will say that them not getting Vic and instead getting some random guy is par for the course for their show. I think it might have to do with the official actors not being allowed to reprise their roles in unofficial material. Anybody else have a better insight for that front.

Either way, once this battle hits YouTube, pray for these guys. Pray for them.

Also, I'm reminded I need to finish FMA: Brotherhood. It's really good. And a lot of the current WW players are in it. Can we go back to those days?
 
I'm beginning to think that nothing even happened between Vic and Monica, since the hotel thing is beginning to sound like it was a made up story.
Absolutely. Monica chose that date and that convention because it was the one time she could get someone to independently verify that she was indeed alone with Vic in his room, which is why it's a ridiculous story of quickie attempted rape.

There's the other problem with the story, too. Remember, Vic is a sexual predator. He doesn't understand what he is doing is wrong! He needs help! And back in 2007, he finally, finally flirted with raping someone. In the course of this act, he meets very little resistance and suffers zero consequences. Now, we all know what sexual predators who cannot help themselves do when they meet very little resistance and suffer zero consequences for their behavior. That's right, they never do anything like that ever again. We know this because no one else has come forward with anything remotely similar regarding that notorious unstoppable public sexual predator Vic Mignogna.

That is how you #TeachMenNotToRape. Just let them have their way with you and don't make a fuss later. Monica has shown us all the way.
 
Absolutely. Monica chose that date and that convention because it was the one time she could get someone to independently verify that she was indeed alone with Vic in his room, which is why it's a ridiculous story of quickie attempted rape.

There's the other problem with the story, too. Remember, Vic is a sexual predator. He doesn't understand what he is doing is wrong! He needs help! And back in 2007, he finally, finally flirted with raping someone. In the course of this act, he meets very little resistance and suffers zero consequences. Now, we all know what sexual predators who cannot help themselves do when they meet very little resistance and suffer zero consequences for their behavior. That's right, they never do anything like that ever again. We know this because no one else has come forward with anything remotely similar regarding that notorious unstoppable public sexual predator Vic Mignogna.

That is how you #TeachMenNotToRape. Just let them have their way with you and don't make a fuss later. Monica has shown us all the way.

Anybody who observes sexual predators know that all of them Trophy Hunt or Unlock Achievements. They have a tendency to see how much they can get away with and how far they can push the boundaries as time goes by until they are caught.
 
Shane :If priests raped underage little boys, therefore without a doubt vic being a Christian just proves he molested and raped children:

When people were saying people hated vic for his religious beliefes i never believed them.

Holy fuck was i wrong
Oh now he cares about kids being taken advantaged of. didn't seem to bother him when he groomed his wife.
 
Can't double down without the ATP to do so, though.




Two adults portrayed romantically is somehow pedophilia despite the two adults being clearly adult because there's some arbitrary age gap.

I don't know if this is it, chief, but if it is, Vic could stand to have better taste.

This completely ignores the fact that it's long-standing culture that women like older men. Men like older women, too, it's not even a sex-specific thing. As long as the person in question seems mature, doesn't look too heavily aged, and is some measure of successful, they can be classified as 'sexy'. 17 year olds drooled over Alan Rickman when he was 70, and he didn't even age as gracefully as most of the older sex symbol men these women get paired up to with movies. (Although for some reason he played a 30 year old. Might have been JKR being hot for him too) He just had so much class - and a deep voice - that they didn't care.

I never got the TFS/Sabat connection. In fact, I’ve never understood the Sabat as top dog kingpin speculation.


I don’t know what any of these are, and part of me is asking if I want to.

They don't really publicize it but it goes like this:

A fan came up to Sabat's autograph table somewhere before s2 started and showed him part of episode one, which Sabat found delightful. He went back and watched the entire series in his hotel room and became an instant fan of it. This isn't an unusual reaction, as a lot of the dub stars enjoyed the idea of poking fun at the old dub. Only notably Sean hated it, and you get three guesses why.

Sabat at some point contacts them, I think via email, and lets them know that he thinks their work is cool.

Takahata101, voice of Nappa and later Cell, attends a panel about Dragonball Kai which Sabat hosts, and his question pokes fun at the similarities between the concept of Kai and Abridged. When Sabat recognizes Takahata (then in full Nappa cosplay) he calls him up to the front of the room and does the "WHAT 9000?!" meme with him. This is notable because Sabat had by this point gotten absolutely sick of fans demanding he repeat it (the one who originally said this line was Brian Drummond, and Sabat didn't understand why he was being asked to say it for a while, then entertained it until he got sick of it after a year or so and started subverting the line whenever asked for it).

Sabat mentions he thinks DBZA is brilliant because it does what 'we all wish we could do but can't' with the original dub. Sean hates it a lot. Sean really hates it when people ask him to quote it.

Around this time TFS is struggling with Youtube and keeps jumping to different places to be hosted, such as TGWTG, and two different websites of their own that don't really work out no matter how hard they try to shill it. They also get big enough that they start getting invited to conventions as guests.

TFS makes a connection with Littlekuriboh, creator of Yugioh Abridged and the one who spawned that entire genre, because his accounts keep getting banned so they host his content on their various sites.

TFS makes AoT Abridged episode 1. The series is immediately cancelled, and I think the episode might even get taken down. It's suggested that Japan side was about to nuke them from orbit if they attempted to continue.

Sabat secretly plays a part in one of DBZA's movies (The Return of Cooler, I believe, same one that got the Borderlands actor) under a screenname. No one knows it's him until TFS hints that people should google his penname.

Teamfourstar relocates a chunk of its members to Texas, and opens up a Patreon to fund an independent studio. When they open it, Sabat attends their housewarming/studio warming party, though he's only referenced in passing.

Sabat plays narrator for Broly movie abridged. Around this time, TFS starts getting lines in localizations of DBZ Xenoverse games (Male voice 8 is Takahata101, and TFS were given complete freedom to write his lines), Kaiserneko gets a brief cameo in Return of F, Kaiser, Takahata, and Lani get three different voices in Xenoverse 2, same rules apply. TFS starts getting hired to do legitimate dubbing for minor projects.

TFS is brought in to redub the parody scene of the Cellgames with the puppets during the World Tournament. Rather than the original jokes which were all about the bad dubbing tropes at the time, the jokes are replaced with Abridged series jokes.

The preview of this episode is released, including a clip from that scene.

Toei comes down with the force of five thousand suns upon Funimation immediately and yanks that episode so fast they can't even redub it, so that section gets released with the original dubbing audio instead of having a new Kai voice track. All mention and reference to that TFS dubbed thing is scrubbed from official record, including all reruns of the original episode's preview.

Somehow that scene gets leaked to the internet anyway, proving that people who originally saw that hadn't gone insane and it wasn't just a myth.

A secondary bit of proof is left over: Lanipator's Krillin voice actually remains in the episode, but only as the 'intro' to the video. Some people think it's because he's not playing the character he does in the abridged version, but I suspect Toei just missed it, because it's an irrelevant line.

Some time after s2, every time DBZA or YGOA gets Toei-nuked, Funimation steps in immediately and fixes it within a day or so. The only exception so far was part 3 (I think) of episode 60(?), the finale of season 3. It's not clear why they had so much trouble with that episode in particular. They've also stated that they would be reamed by Toei if they tried to abridge Super, but they make little clips of it anyway.

Incidentally, they always credit 'Funimation' for protecting them, giving them ins, or providing them various jobs, but it's pretty clear to anyone who pays attention that what happened is Chris Sabat took a liking to DBZA and decided to protect it.

Sean still insists that he doesn't like DBZA because Funimation disapproves of it, despite the fact that it obviously doesn't.

Shane :If priests raped underage little boys, therefore without a doubt vic being a Christian just proves he molested and raped children:

When people were saying people hated vic for his religious beliefes i never believed them.

Holy fuck was i wrong

Christians don't have priests, Shane. You dullard.

Ah, Death Battle. Probably the biggest punching bag of the vs community of the Internet. As a guy who's seen every episode, I will say that them not getting Vic and instead getting some random guy is par for the course for their show. I think it might have to do with the official actors not being allowed to reprise their roles in unofficial material. Anybody else have a better insight for that front.

Either way, once this battle hits YouTube, pray for these guys. Pray for them.

Also, I'm reminded I need to finish FMA: Brotherhood. It's really good. And a lot of the current WW players are in it. Can we go back to those days?


Death Battle has been garbage and skating by on nostalgia for years now. If they're too stupid to realize what a bad idea it is to release an Edward Elric DB right now, they deserve the crap that's going to rain down on them.
 
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Oh boy i can't wait for

T: did vic ever touch you when you didn't want him to?

M: Yes

T: when?

M: all the time

T: do you have any dates

M: I do not recall all of them

T: do you remember where

M: I do not recall all of them Vic Molested me

T: when did vic molest you

M: all the time....
Not gonna be Ty. Gonna be Carrie, also called Amazon Prime, the one told to "settle down" by Casey. Should be fun.
 
Good thing the manga and all versions of anime are finished, then, and the author doesn't seem to have any intention to go back to her masterpiece. And trying to re-dub both FMA seems like such a waste of time and money, tbh, that if Failmation has even 1% of the intelligence they were supposed to have (and they don't), they will not even touch it.
Considering Funi doesn't own the rights to any FMA anymore, that's unlikely to happen.
 
Considering Funi doesn't own the rights to any FMA anymore, that's unlikely to happen.

Which makes it weird his credits got yanked from an FMA movie the same time it did with the Broly one.

Quick question: who does? I know Vic has been praised A LOT for being Ed, but is he on the level of “If Vic doesn’t voice Ed, we riot” to the average FMA fan?

Consider the fact that Netflix's dub of FMA movie went out of their way to get Vic to voice it, and when his sound track was extremely badly flubbed, they still kept it rather than pinch-hit someone else in there.
 
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