Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

REMINDER: "Vic won't sign that Edward/Roy doujin" is the first rumor, it's not the source of the rumors. That rumor appeared in 2010 (or at least the mainstream version of it does, older ones apparently existed but were very much not mainstream and pretty much only Vic mentions them), attached to a story about him screaming at the yaoi fan when she refused to take no for an answer. It was debunked in the Gaia Online thread that discussed it (which seems to be the only public forum left that talked about it then).

In reality, according to the people who were discussing it at the time, Vic actually did Ed/Roy fanservice lines and things like that for fans who asked it of him back then. He was known to lean into the fangirls' yaoi fantasies a little.

There's ample video evidence of this, in fact. He infamously said "Colonel Mustang is dead sexy in a miniskirt!" and that line hounds him pretty much to this day (and he accidentally got Aaron to say it so he's stuck with it too), and also said "Roy, I love you!" and "Back off, Riza, he's mine!" as well as Travis and him playing little jokes like proposing to each other.

Around about 2007-2008 he started letting fans know that he wasn't actually into yaoi and didn't like Ed x Roy (nor does Travis, this is why Travis has similar rumors) and a few times teases yaoi fans for being too extreme, but it's all in good humor.

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This sparks rumors about him getting super angry about being asked to sign yaoi, up to and including throwing a sharpie in a fan's eye and storming away. However, this is entirely kept within the yaoi fandom, as I mentioned before these rumors don't make it into the internet at large yet.

Then 2009 hit, and he made multiple different comments trying to explain his position on yaoi and that he only really has an issue with the crazy fans. The most well known one, I think is ACEN 2009:


(try not to feel the pain when he says "I've never sued anyone in my life".)


You'll see here he repeats the same rumors over and over, because there's just not many at this point. (Interesting that he addresses a specific rumor that persists to this day and debunks it with the actual event).

Because of this, his dislike of yaoi went 'mainstream', and the story of "He screamed at a girl who wanted him to sign Ed x Roy" was born by 2010.

Anyway. Don't spread the story that Vic's rumors came from him refusing to sign yaoi once, that's actually a rumor itself. Vic's rumors come from the fact that he teased yaoi fangirls and made it clear he doesn't like it. While yes, he had a policy of not signing yaoi (though there's video evidence that he will happily sign stuff that's basically 'yaoi bait'), the yaoi fangirls had zero problem with him until he started teasing them. You're perpetuating their rumors by suggesting it was caused by a spurned yaoi fangirl. It wasn't even. Because this is Vic we're talking about, so somehow it's not even that. It was yaoi fangirls who got offended he just didn't like yaoi.



You're right, I forgot. Somehow I never put the two pieces together, and just thought 'oh, he believes victims because his wife was a victim', not 'he's kickvic because his wife is kickvic'.

Sorry, let me clarify: I mean to insinuate that the rumors come from disgruntled fans. I don't think it too far fetched that the girl whose yaoi art wasn't signed may have spread other rumors to attempt to destroy Vic's reputation. That or other people that saw the initial rumor were angry that a fellow fujoshi was displeased and added their own stories in that attempt as well. Anime communities can be a bit... fanatical at times. Is that single rumor itself the source of rumors? Maybe not but the person that spread that first rumor or the friends of that person may have spread others.

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So who do you guys think will be deposing Marchi? Will Ty or Carey go for second bat, or will our wild card Jim Bullock come into play next?
Hopefully Jim. I want them to keep rotating to someone new to keep them on their toes since they're watching the depositions. Also interesting to see the different BHBH crew at work.
 
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Hopefully Jim. I want them to keep rotating to someone new to keep them on their toes since they're obviously watching Nick's streams.

I’m not sure how the person deposing would change the deposition seeing as how Beard and company has an MO of trying to catch contradictions and inconsistencies from the web of questions that start from introducing documents.
 
Hopefully Jim. I want them to keep rotating to someone new to keep them on their toes since they're obviously watching Nick's streams.
Not only that but aren't they watching the depos via stream at the time they take place? Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I thought it was the case.
 
So who do you guys think will be deposing Marchi? Will Ty or Carey go for second bat, or will our wild card Jim Bullock come into play next?

Could one of the other Amazons handle Marchi's depo?

The reason why they brought in Carey was because they were deposing a woman and wanted to make it seem like they were being sympathetic to the women who were allegedly raped by Vic. (A spectacular move on BHBH part, I might add). My guess is that they will get another Amazon or Carey (most likely the latter as she is the lawyer who will defend Vic).

I'd love to see Jim in action but I have a feeling that Jim will only come into play for the trial, if at all. If what Ty has told us about Jim is correct (that he comes off super nice as he slowly and precisely lops off the heads of his opponents) he would be an excellent choice
 
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I didn't realise it was contractually stipulated that voice actors have to watch and be fans of the shows they do voice work for. Like I'm sure most know bits of information but not everyone is going to be as obsessed as most weebs to care enough to commit stuff to memory. It's stupid to expect people to be fans of shows they work on, if anything I imagine it'd be weird as fuck to watch something you did voice work for, not to mention all the spoilers you'd be aware of.
 
I'm sure Monica directly name-dropping ADV Films' alleged investigation will go down a treat; given they re-emerged as Sentai Filmworks - who were ALSO directly named as a company that has banned him from the premises.

I doubt they'll be added to the lawsuit, but they should very much be on alert right now.
 
It's stupid to expect people to be fans of shows they work on, if anything I imagine it'd be weird as fuck to watch something you did voice work for, not to mention all the spoilers you'd be aware of.

To be fair the sub comes out fairly long before the dub typically. But yeah, you can't expect someone to watch all 600 or w/e anime series they've been in while also working and attending cons constantly.
 
Dont know if this has been posted but a new allegation against vic


Also eat shit amanda
How could her dad have wanted Micheal j Tatum's autograph "because he liked his work as Sebastian" in 2009? The English dub for black Butler didn't release until 2011.

Hmmm....
 

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I'm sure Monica directly name-dropping ADV Films' alleged investigation will go down a treat; given they re-emerged as Sentai Filmworks - who were ALSO directly named as a company that has banned him from the premises.

I doubt they'll be added to the lawsuit, but they should very much be on alert right now.
My question from that is how did she know he was investigated at ADV and "not allowed on property" at Sentai? Monica said she spoke to ADV films about Vic. Was this before or after the investigation she claims that ADV did about Vic? Sentai is essentially the a restructured ADV, so did this carry over from the ADV days?

Seems to me, she has been gunning for him for a while.
 
How could her dad have wanted Micheal j Tatum's autograph "because he liked his work as Sebastian" in 2009? The English dub for black Butler didn't release until 2011.

Hmmm....

Before they went protected they had videos up of them singing at a Con as well as one that I think was at Roosterteeth that was for a chance at voice acting. They post about RWBY all the time as well. Their tumblr was all covers of anime songs which is funny because if your trans with an intention to go on HRT as a FTM your voice will go to shit, so. Smells like they were hoping to get exposure and a foot in the door. I made up a story Monica-Senpai! help me get a job in the industry!

Original name was Lauren.
 
My question from that is how did she know he was investigated at ADV and "not allowed on property" at Sentai? Monica said she spoke to ADV films about Vic. Was this before or after the investigation she claims that ADV did about Vic? Sentai is essentially the a restructured ADV, so did this carry over from the ADV days?

Seems to me, she has been gunning for him for a while.
My inference from that comment was that her raising of the complaint also promtped ADV to investigate him and it was likely found inconclusive.

ADV went defunct in 2009, though, and by that point they were FAR past their prime of anime releases. Just when exactly did this investigation take place?

If it took place before the alleged assault in 2007, and she'd complained in the past, why was she still associating with him?

Is she naming ADV because they're defunct and she believes there's no one left to deny that claim? That was the big standout moment of her deposition for me.
 
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