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I wish I could record the show somehow on my laptop because he's on now, talking presently.
Jonathan Yaniv / Jessica Yaniv / @trustednerd / trustednerd.com / JY Knows It / JY British Columbia - Canada's Best Argument Against Transgender Self-Identification
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Quick 'n' dirty transcript:
Karlene: "I got slammed on Twitter for going way too easy on Jessica Yaniv" and she included his deadname. OH SHIT. She's going through his old racist Facebook posts and mentioned the tampons. Sounds like she actually read some of the shit people linked her to. Jonathan is called in. He admits to the racism right away but denies the tampon stuff. (editing note: he consistently denies any sexual shit was him, but owns being a big fat racist. on FBook or whereever)
Karlene defending Lindsay Shepherd here - "Why would you attack a woman's genitalia on social media?" Jonathan tries to interrupt her but Karlene's not as easy to talk over as respondents at the HRT.
Paraphrasing Jonathan: "The JCCF says I'm getting a brozilian and that's misgendering me" the logic lmao
Karlene: "You ought to apologize to the immigrant community... Talking about immigrants being dirty, talking derogatory about immigrants - that's disgraceful"
Jonathan: "I'm not lying about that"
Karlene boots him off the air. Bless her.
Dr. Alicia Hendley is calling in now. She is pointing out that even if Jon hasn't won any money, getting money is still his goal. Underlines that he has chosen to target immigrants, ESL speakers, etc. Karlene points out that some salons don't service black hair, etc. so expecting total service from every service provider is unfair.
Guy called in, talked about how the government compelling people to touch genitalia is like sexual assault - Karlene backs off that point a bit. He adds that Jon has a pattern of boundary violations, which she agrees with. The ad break immediately goes to an ad narrated by a gentleman with a heavy Indian accent which might be accidental, but it's truly hilarious. I hope Jonathan hates it.
Back from ads.
Karlene: "There are many layers to Jessica Yaniv" Jon is Shrek? "Jon compared business owners to Neo-Nazis... What is that about? A Neo-Nazi?!"
Jay Cameron on! Pointing out the damage this case has done to respondents - businesses closing, depression, marital difficulties, etc. Karlene questions if services should be compulsory for providers working out of their own home. "Is that fair?" Jay says that's the central issue in these cases. "Our position is that it would be an act of tremendous oppression... to require women to provide waxing services to male genitalia... It would be beyond the bottom of the rabbit hole." Jay points out that the issue isn't about gender identity, but that they don't provide the service.
Karlene is deeply concerned about the HRT process: "people refer to it as 'kangaroo courts'... targeting small businesses... holding them hostage to the process, where once you're caught up in the process, it costs thousands of dollars of legal fees. You are automatically presumed to be guilty from the get-go."
Jay says that having an HRT case open against you in today's climate is almost worse than criminal court - being accused of being a bigot or a transphobic person has social stigma. Mentions the 26 lawyers dismissing one respondent. "Many lawyers don't want to touch these types of cases... In some ways it's like having a conviction." Karlene mentions covering a case where a Burlington business owner once told a man not to smoke a joint in his restaurant and was taken to Ontario's HRT for huge $ prior to blanket non-smoking laws. Jay summarizes the dismissed complaints (the ones available on the BCHRT website) and suggests that dropping a supposedly serious human rights complaint shows questionable intent. Jay gets to elevator-pitch the JCCF's non-denominational mission of protecting constitutional rights.
"Jessica Yaniv... is not well liked in some circles." Ad break! Call in if you want. 416-640-0200. Ad copy: "It's a great time to get wrecked". Hahaha.
Back from ads. Karlene deadnames Jessica, says she had good reason to want a publication ban. Says Jonathan "alleged to have made comments about little girls, and helping little girls to insert tampons, but all over social media that is being tweeted and re-tweeted and re-tweeted, time and time again." Mad about his shit talk to Lindsay Shepherd re: her genitals when genitals are relevant to his case. "Why would he be attacking a woman on Twitter and attacking her genitalia? Why would you engage in an attack against a woman's genitalia?" Pointing out hypocrisy as Jessica identifies as woman. Reads out his racist tweet, posted as Jonathan, which he JUST confirmed was him on air earlier: "I joined a girl's gym because I don't want issues with these people". Points out that he doubled down on that racist comment on air earlier. "This is disgraceful."
"I think Jessica Yaniv sought out immigrant business owners... because the intent was to punish them and drag them through the Human Rights Commission process." She's 100% correct!
Points out that services for trans women may be harder to find outside of Toronto, "but should people be forced to do it? That's the legal question hanging here. That is what is being adjudicated here at the BC Human Rights process. And why would Jessica Yaniv accuse a business owner of being a Neo-Nazi? There seems to be no boundaries in what Jessica Yaniv says and how she targets people. It's a problem." Taking calls.
Back from ads. Karlene reading this Post Millenial article, recommends reading their article and the National Post one. Says offering services is good business, but shouldn't be compulsory. Tells Jessica to stop being a racist and stop attacking women lol "STOP IT!" End of show.
Karlene: "I got slammed on Twitter for going way too easy on Jessica Yaniv" and she included his deadname. OH SHIT. She's going through his old racist Facebook posts and mentioned the tampons. Sounds like she actually read some of the shit people linked her to. Jonathan is called in. He admits to the racism right away but denies the tampon stuff. (editing note: he consistently denies any sexual shit was him, but owns being a big fat racist. on FBook or whereever)
Karlene defending Lindsay Shepherd here - "Why would you attack a woman's genitalia on social media?" Jonathan tries to interrupt her but Karlene's not as easy to talk over as respondents at the HRT.
Paraphrasing Jonathan: "The JCCF says I'm getting a brozilian and that's misgendering me" the logic lmao
Karlene: "You ought to apologize to the immigrant community... Talking about immigrants being dirty, talking derogatory about immigrants - that's disgraceful"
Jonathan: "I'm not lying about that"
Karlene boots him off the air. Bless her.
Dr. Alicia Hendley is calling in now. She is pointing out that even if Jon hasn't won any money, getting money is still his goal. Underlines that he has chosen to target immigrants, ESL speakers, etc. Karlene points out that some salons don't service black hair, etc. so expecting total service from every service provider is unfair.
Guy called in, talked about how the government compelling people to touch genitalia is like sexual assault - Karlene backs off that point a bit. He adds that Jon has a pattern of boundary violations, which she agrees with. The ad break immediately goes to an ad narrated by a gentleman with a heavy Indian accent which might be accidental, but it's truly hilarious. I hope Jonathan hates it.
Back from ads.
Karlene: "There are many layers to Jessica Yaniv" Jon is Shrek? "Jon compared business owners to Neo-Nazis... What is that about? A Neo-Nazi?!"
Jay Cameron on! Pointing out the damage this case has done to respondents - businesses closing, depression, marital difficulties, etc. Karlene questions if services should be compulsory for providers working out of their own home. "Is that fair?" Jay says that's the central issue in these cases. "Our position is that it would be an act of tremendous oppression... to require women to provide waxing services to male genitalia... It would be beyond the bottom of the rabbit hole." Jay points out that the issue isn't about gender identity, but that they don't provide the service.
Karlene is deeply concerned about the HRT process: "people refer to it as 'kangaroo courts'... targeting small businesses... holding them hostage to the process, where once you're caught up in the process, it costs thousands of dollars of legal fees. You are automatically presumed to be guilty from the get-go."
Jay says that having an HRT case open against you in today's climate is almost worse than criminal court - being accused of being a bigot or a transphobic person has social stigma. Mentions the 26 lawyers dismissing one respondent. "Many lawyers don't want to touch these types of cases... In some ways it's like having a conviction." Karlene mentions covering a case where a Burlington business owner once told a man not to smoke a joint in his restaurant and was taken to Ontario's HRT for huge $ prior to blanket non-smoking laws. Jay summarizes the dismissed complaints (the ones available on the BCHRT website) and suggests that dropping a supposedly serious human rights complaint shows questionable intent. Jay gets to elevator-pitch the JCCF's non-denominational mission of protecting constitutional rights.
"Jessica Yaniv... is not well liked in some circles." Ad break! Call in if you want. 416-640-0200. Ad copy: "It's a great time to get wrecked". Hahaha.
Back from ads. Karlene deadnames Jessica, says she had good reason to want a publication ban. Says Jonathan "alleged to have made comments about little girls, and helping little girls to insert tampons, but all over social media that is being tweeted and re-tweeted and re-tweeted, time and time again." Mad about his shit talk to Lindsay Shepherd re: her genitals when genitals are relevant to his case. "Why would he be attacking a woman on Twitter and attacking her genitalia? Why would you engage in an attack against a woman's genitalia?" Pointing out hypocrisy as Jessica identifies as woman. Reads out his racist tweet, posted as Jonathan, which he JUST confirmed was him on air earlier: "I joined a girl's gym because I don't want issues with these people". Points out that he doubled down on that racist comment on air earlier. "This is disgraceful."
"I think Jessica Yaniv sought out immigrant business owners... because the intent was to punish them and drag them through the Human Rights Commission process." She's 100% correct!
Points out that services for trans women may be harder to find outside of Toronto, "but should people be forced to do it? That's the legal question hanging here. That is what is being adjudicated here at the BC Human Rights process. And why would Jessica Yaniv accuse a business owner of being a Neo-Nazi? There seems to be no boundaries in what Jessica Yaniv says and how she targets people. It's a problem." Taking calls.
Back from ads. Karlene reading this Post Millenial article, recommends reading their article and the National Post one. Says offering services is good business, but shouldn't be compulsory. Tells Jessica to stop being a racist and stop attacking women lol "STOP IT!" End of show.
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I'm recording it, will post up the file once it's over
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God listening to this obvious man stammer and stumble over this bullshit is hilarious. 
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Oh jfc this fucking potato literally dropped racist comments on the radio.
And JY completely missing the point on this costing these women money: it’s costing them time off work, prescriptions, parking, travel time to defend themselves, and never mind the mediation itself...idiot.
And JY completely missing the point on this costing these women money: it’s costing them time off work, prescriptions, parking, travel time to defend themselves, and never mind the mediation itself...idiot.
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Well would you look at that, I told you guys, the CBC is an aggregator and here they are aggregating now that Canadian media has picked it up. Good news, I was wondering how long it would take. Not long apparently. They're still on the Lindsay Shepherd angle but I expect we'll hear more soon. The CBC does not do this kind of investigative reporting. It is mostly funded by the government which means for it's size, it's actually working with a relatively small budget. It's goal is to bring news about the country to the country so it does that by aggregating the news of the day. Cheaply. It's still the most seen news outlet, however. For real though, we are never going to get a juicy expose attack piece from a major news outlet. I don't know what you all expect but all of these major media outlets are going to be dry and serious about the issue and attempt not to appear to be taking a side.
As far as the tribunal, as WG Kitty mentioned once, it's not entirely a terrible idea to have the tribunal and a lot of Canadians agree with it. The problem is with execution because I really don't think it was built to protect itself against this kind of litigious fuckery. But at its core, it's meant for low level workers who find themselves fucked over for human rights reasons. Which actually happens all the time. Someone's boss is constantly going off about the chingchong people and picking on the one Asian worker who eventually gets hauled into the office over some perceived "chingchong" issue and summarily fired. Or the person is gay or the person is disabled, etc. etc. It actually does happen with alarming frequency. These workers tend to be very vulnerable and getting heard in a regular court is not feasible for various reasons. Financial cost mainly, but not just the dollar value of a lawyer that is good enough to match the corporate lawyer their former boss will bring. There is also the fact that the individual is now unemployed and needs to get back to work immediately. They have pressing survival issues that supercede their own "justice" in that moment. Truth is, few people who could/should actually use the tribunal. Most of the time this stuff just happens with no recourse.
Canada is kind of cucked in a number of ways, I'll admit. Mainly that they create these avenues for vulnerable people to easily access the legal system, but they don't build in any goddamned checks or balances because I guess they didn't factor in crazy abusive assholes. Which is really strange because crazy abusive assholes are the entire reason the tribunal exists in the first place. It's a solution to a known problem but maybe not the best solution. How do you ensure that low income, vulnerable people do not get legally taken advantage of by those with resources and lawyers on retainer? I'm not sure but the tribunal is one answer. It may be fucked up in practice but at least someone tried. Again, I'm not even sure it's the wrong answer entirely but it certainly needs overhaul. The point is to attempt to blind justice. Does it work? Not always but remember the bad stories are the ones we hear. It does do good for people with real problems too.
As far as the tribunal, as WG Kitty mentioned once, it's not entirely a terrible idea to have the tribunal and a lot of Canadians agree with it. The problem is with execution because I really don't think it was built to protect itself against this kind of litigious fuckery. But at its core, it's meant for low level workers who find themselves fucked over for human rights reasons. Which actually happens all the time. Someone's boss is constantly going off about the chingchong people and picking on the one Asian worker who eventually gets hauled into the office over some perceived "chingchong" issue and summarily fired. Or the person is gay or the person is disabled, etc. etc. It actually does happen with alarming frequency. These workers tend to be very vulnerable and getting heard in a regular court is not feasible for various reasons. Financial cost mainly, but not just the dollar value of a lawyer that is good enough to match the corporate lawyer their former boss will bring. There is also the fact that the individual is now unemployed and needs to get back to work immediately. They have pressing survival issues that supercede their own "justice" in that moment. Truth is, few people who could/should actually use the tribunal. Most of the time this stuff just happens with no recourse.
Canada is kind of cucked in a number of ways, I'll admit. Mainly that they create these avenues for vulnerable people to easily access the legal system, but they don't build in any goddamned checks or balances because I guess they didn't factor in crazy abusive assholes. Which is really strange because crazy abusive assholes are the entire reason the tribunal exists in the first place. It's a solution to a known problem but maybe not the best solution. How do you ensure that low income, vulnerable people do not get legally taken advantage of by those with resources and lawyers on retainer? I'm not sure but the tribunal is one answer. It may be fucked up in practice but at least someone tried. Again, I'm not even sure it's the wrong answer entirely but it certainly needs overhaul. The point is to attempt to blind justice. Does it work? Not always but remember the bad stories are the ones we hear. It does do good for people with real problems too.
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Jon's claimed a few of the HRT cases were about arm or leg waxing, but all of those cases involved women who would be going to his home to provide service, and it's very obviously the case that they didn't feel comfortable going to a strange man's home alone. Which is a perfectly reasonable desire - they would be putting themselves in danger ffs.
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I've been following this thread from the start and I don't remember seeing anything about arm or leg waxing. Granted, I may have missed something in all the lunacy, but it wouldn't shock me if he was exaggerating or leaving something out to sound more sympathetic to his remaining asspatters.
Edit: @Sourceress's post above has that covered. Keeping up with this shit is hard...
Also, I like how he says "There's quite an argument I have for this but I can't post it at this time." To me, that reads as: "Oh, shit, I wasn't expecting anyone to call me out on that part, I need time to come up with something." Be interesting to see how he spins that, considering his proven inability to lie his way out of a paper sack.
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Holy shit, Karlene for president. Get absolutely fucked Jonny-boy.
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It is completely forced sexual assault to require someone to touch your genitals when they have repeatedly told you it makes them uncomfortable. Period.
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God, I'm just fucking mad on the internet at his brain damaged comparison of food service to a fucking ball wax. They can't be compared, why does this spud keep doing it.
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Because he can, which is the sad part; as long as Canada will continue to capitulate and defend him.
Only caught the tail end of the radio show but it seems like it would have been a real ride if I saw the whole thing.
Edit: I tuned in before the ad break, they're taking callers now so this should be fun.
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"Interestingly, the companies she's now dragging through this process are small, immigrant businesses. Is there a racist aspect to this?"
Yes, Karlene, yes there is. Yaniv is a racist pedophile.
Yes, Karlene, yes there is. Yaniv is a racist pedophile.
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he is fixin to be born again.
it ain't just for fundy-christians anymore!
will he demand to wear orthodox jewish women's clothes too? i say yes!
maybe he can sue a few rabbis. religious freedom is not protected in canada either, is it?
well now i'm jealous. maybe there are a coupla good things about canada after all.
Well if that happens, then he can’t scoot around on Saturdays.
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He only started going on about arm and leg waxing after the pressure heated up. He's trying to walk back his fuckery. We all know what this is about. He thinks he can talk his way out of anything by changing his story.
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It's going to be fun watching him flame out in the coming days as this rolls on.
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Holy shit did Karlene grow a sack today? Damn! Maybe she needs a good ball waxing after she manhandled Jonny boy.
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I can't believe the fucking balls this fat faggot has changing his story on a fucking dime trying to pretend that the HRT hullabaloo is about "arm and leg waxes". Get fuckin real Johnny. I know you read this thread. I abhor violence and do not advocate for it whatsoever, however I would NOT be surprised if Johnny tried to pull his "wax my balls you bigot" shit on the wrong woman and she felt threatened enough to physically resist, or some radical TERF said "enough is enough, fuck this Pedophile faggot" and donated some scrap metal to Johnny's skull. That would be very unfortunate and I hope it never happens. Again, I abhor violence and I do not advocate for it being directed at anyone, just making predictions and observations. I want Johnathan Yaniv to live for a long, long time. Edit: I guess the main idea in this angry rant is that if Johnathan Yaniv keeps playing this retarted game, it's not going to be a game anymore. Jonathan appears to have a tenuous grasp on reality and seems to lack foresight into the long term consequences of his actions. Eventually this spergery is going to do far and wide and WILL more than likely attract the attention of some wacko and they most likely WILL take action. What action that would be? That's anyone's guess at this point. A simple milkshake to the dome? Perhaps. Something more violent? Also very possible.
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I think she's disturbed as most normies would be that such an entity actually exists and just seems to be racist as all fuck to the point they were willing to rant about it on a radio station.
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Ok super off topic but those listening: LOL @ the "get rekt" golfing country club party.