Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

So now that the TCPAs are filed, everyone involved are celebrating and doing the congratulatory rounds of thanking everyone involved from ANN, Hunt, Superlolyers, MarzGurl, Terez, and the others for their good fight and finally seeing this to the end which are all being cataloged in their own threads.

If the TCPA fails is this going to be Election Night 2016 levels of meltdown again?

Yes. The parallels are there. Media telling them "their going to win." "Why even show up at court? All the evidence says guilty."

There are warning signs they are blatently ignoring. And once the judge uses some manner of slingshot or crossbow to hit the defendants with their 530 pages of shit, the pitchforks and torches will come out for TwitterLaw.

God, how many of them will be called pedo's after this?
 
Wow, that's certainly... a take.

While I find the allegations of sexual assault from clowns like Rial and Marchi to be highly dubious at best, I don't find any reason to question the credibility of Vic's ex-fiance particularly when in his responses to her he doesn't even deny a single thing she says about him.

You are right about one thing, though. It all could have been avoided with a simple discussion. One in which Vic says to his girlfriend and then fiance "hey, while I go on tour I bang lots of women and hire prostitutes, does that bother you?", but he didn't. He hid it from her. And he didn't hide it from her because he cared about her, he hid it from her because she was his long-term bang that cleaned the house, cooked his meals and catered to his every whim. He wasn't preserving her immediate feelings, he was a coward that didn't want to have to choose between having a stable and honest relationship with her or banging convention groupies that were nothing to him but weekend ass. When it comes to Vic's relationship with Michele, Vic comes across as a deceitful asshole. I'm pretty sure that the only thing she'd have been wrong about was believing Vic when he said he was committed to their relationship.

You're wrong. That's not how it works. You are also assuming facts not in evidence about Vic's relationship with Michelle. This is nothing more than a hateful, spiteful diatribe to hurt Vic. I am sure many of us here have been on the receiving end of similar diatribes when a long term relationship fails.

When I left my spouse and got a similar type of letter - which was about the fifteenth time they had tried to browbeat me with false guilt attempts - my response to them did not involve any sort of denial of the behavior alleged. Mainly because if I had said anything about it it would have opened even more accusations being made. That part of his response doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's typical de-escalation when you've been on the receiving end of this type of diatribe before and are sick of it.

This Kiwi is 100% right. When you get to this stage there is no amount of talking it out that will do any good. Best to move on with as little confrontation as humanly possible. If you try to talk it out or rationalize things it will lead to more accusations and escalation up to physical violence on her part. A life ruining situation when law enforcement and the courts are not on your side.
 
What are the odds that BHBH have a sworn affidavit from Mari Iijima that refutes the claims by Manjaw et al about Vic stalking her 2007?
I don't think it'll stick around that long to matter, there is so much wrong with virtually all of the affidavits submitted by MoRon's TCPA that I expect most of them will get tossed.

Even if those affidavit's can be excluded for other reasons, this is about clearing Vic's name and restoring his reputation. If you just get the affidavit's tossed, people will insist that they were true. If you get a person named in that affidavit to testify that it wasn't true, it just completely wrecks the credibility of those affidavits and the people who swore them.
 
She said that she didn't try to get Vic replaced for Super Broly but in one of her tweets she said she and Sabat tried to
Do you happen to remember any wording or the approximate date she sent it? Do you know if it was a reply to another tweet?

Edit: motherfucking draft text sneaking in again.
 
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I remember this I think it might be archived or screencapped early on in the thread or in the Monica and Ron thread

it must be this one, went through first 40 pages of monica thread, nothing. All about posts in april and onward.
 
As for those feeling bad for Michele, I have to agree. Having gone through a disastrous divorce in which it became apparent both during and afterwards that my wife had been very dishonest with me for years - not cheating, that I can prove anyway, but still a whole lot of saying "I love you" to my face while scheming behind my back - I think I can understand her hostility, as I certainly still hold it towards my ex as well.
While I understand why people feel bad for her because she is a lover scorned, it just seems like she's using his past wrong doings against her as a step stone to help take him down since she still harbors a lot of vitriol against him for what he did. Part of me doesn't find an excuse with that as after someone does that to you, then you just move on and not dwell on it for the rest of your life. And if he was as bad as she claims he was, why is she coming out NOW instead of..oh I don't know...when it actually fucking happened and not a long ass time later?? It doesn't make any sense to me. All she does is come off as some toxic and bitter woman who was mad her fiance did her dirt so she wanted to ruin his life for it despite all the times he's expressed regret for what he did and extended apologies. She makes it seem like he never regret what he did to her and that's a bold faced lie. He's still torn up about it to this very day but that's not enough for her. Like the others, she wants him dead all because he fucked up and made mistakes. People shouldn't be assassinated for their mistakes.
 
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I’m a lurker of the Weeb Wars thread ever since it had 400+ posts and decided to join the Farms.

To a degree I might feel bad for Chuck since he tried to do the “right” thing even if it was far too naive, and as others said he approached it from a pre-#MeToo mindset at the time but even so he shouldn’t have tried to negotiate with snakes such as this in Failmation because now he’s gonna be targeted by Sleeve, and other sycophants.

That aside, it’s just hilarious to see Ron Soye and Josh Clark try to shit on Chuck.
 
Yes. The parallels are there. Media telling them "their going to win." "Why even show up at court? All the evidence says guilty."

There are warning signs they are blatently ignoring. And once the judge uses some manner of slingshot or crossbow to hit the defendants with their 530 pages of shit, the pitchforks and torches will come out for TwitterLaw.

God, how many of them will be called pedo's after this?

That was always going to happen if the case didn't go the way they wanted it to. This is why I always say the damage is already done to vic. Even if he wins the case, there are some really exceptional people out there who will continue to lie and believe that, despite hardly any evidence against and ample evidence for vic, he will always be a rapist, anti semetic pedophile in their eyes. I only hope that despite all their reeeing vic can atleast get a decent amount of work or live comfortably in the millions he'll make from the case.

I think the only confirmed pedophile (allegedly) is Ron Toye. Considering how tightknit the group is it could go a lot deeper, we'll have to wait and see how many more anonymous people bravely come forward with information.

It's alleged that Ron Toye jills off to loli hentai that Monica voices when they can't get a handler for Monica
 
Its not so much the tactical blunder of the mediation attempt that I take issue with, its the disingenuous nature of even attempting such a thing in the first place. These are not two co-equal sides of a dispute to be settled with, its harpies and their sycophants destroying a man's life. And to suggest that this is resolved by the accused, with no proof against him, accept being labeled a sex addict and voluntarily ending his career while the other side gets off with nothing even approaching this all while having the official backing of companies and new outlets is remotely fair or sensible is absurd in the extreme.

I've had too many personal experiences with people like this where in they are so scared of conflict they try to hide and bury any potential cause of friction, to always appease the status quo side to prevent escalation, and play an equivalence fallacy beyond parody. Its the same with the concern trolling, like that shit stain whom Nick did the dms with, whining about how this has divided the fanbase, or the #BeThere nonsense the VAs pulled. Guess what, sometimes you need to burn everything down, sometimes people need to be bloodied, and not allowed to continue to be in established positions of power to exert their personal ideologies and vendettas over a community. And allowing this to continue in order to keep the peace, to pretend the people you thought were your friends are not monsters, and stay neutral is cowardly.

Maybe I'm being too harsh, but the times where two sides are genuinely equal almost never happen, and burying your head in the sand and trying to make it all go away with this kind of politicing is an insult.

(Edit; I do agree with the idea that he was working from a pre-#MeToo mindset in his thinking.)

Huber may have been worried about his pay check. Trying to jam himself into the situation since now you have people boycotting Funimation as well as voice actors and conventions. And as the rhetoric ratchets up on both sides the more likely someone tangential to the whole situation will say something stupid and ruin their career.

He tried to be the Brave Little Toaster trying to stop that crusher. He just failed miserably at it.
 
While I understand why people feel bad for her because she is a lover scorned, it just seems like she's using his past wrong doings against her and a step stone to help take him down since she still harbors a lot of vitriol against him for what he did. Part of me deosn't find an excuse with that as after someone does that to you, then you just move on and not dwell on it for the rest of your life. And if he was as bad as she claims he was, why is she coming out NOW instead of..oh I don't know...when it actually fucking happened and not a long ass time later?? it doesn't make any sense to me. All she does is come off as some toxic and bitter woman who was mad her fiance did her dirt so she wanted to ruin his life for it despite all the times he's expressed regret for what he did and extended apologies. She makes it seem like he never regret what he did to her and that's a bold faced lie. He's still torn up about it to this very day but that's not enough for her. Like the others, she wants him dead all because he fucked up and made mistakes. People shouldn't be assassinated for this mistakes.

WINRAR. Today you are no Dopey Cunt. Today you are a SMART Cunt.
 
Huber may have been worried about his pay check.

I doubt it. The best thing for his pay check would've been to not get involved and he knew that because my guess is that he was not far down on the list of VAs they wanted to take down after vic
 
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When I left my spouse and got a similar type of letter - which was about the fifteenth time they had tried to browbeat me with false guilt attempts - my response to them did not involve any sort of denial of the behavior alleged. Mainly because if I had said anything about it it would have opened even more accusations being made. That part of his response doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's typical de-escalation when you've been on the receiving end of this type of diatribe before and are sick of it.
Vic had also already hired BHBH when he received her email. He may have been advised not to say anything related to the accusations against him and kept it to a vague apology.

How. Embarrassing. Nick better mock this appropriately next time he's live.
 
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