Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Jack Awful]

That was my reaction.

Like holy shit are Funi VAs so broken as people that they have to be forcibly quarantined from each other?

If it's really this bad and Vic was really enough of a rapist to literally make Funimation install locks to keep him from molesting people, then Funimation's management is fucked in the head and none of them should ever be put in charge of anything ever.

 

[CheezzyMach]

If it's really this bad and Vic was really enough of a rapist to literally make Funimation install locks to keep him from molesting people, then Funimation's management is fucked in the head and none of them should ever be put in charge of anything ever.

At this point I'm thinking Vic was the only sane one there.

 

[774]

At this point I'm thinking Vic was the only sane one there.

Does that exclude Todd Haberkorn too? I understand he and Vic haven't been the friendliest, but he's been something of a target himself, as I'm sure we're all aware. If it's about wrongthink, then...

 

[GethN7]

If it's really this bad and Vic was really enough of a rapist to literally make Funimation install locks to keep him from molesting people, then Funimation's management is fucked in the head and none of them should ever be put in charge of anything ever.

And that's the thing that just blows their whole defense apart.

If he was THAT dangerous, WHY DID THEY NOT DO SHIT ABOUT HIM MUCH EARLIER THAN NOW?

They waited years after the fact and only after he sued for defamation to bring any of this up, but their stories make him sound like the second coming of The Rapeman and he should never see natural light ever again, but it never seemed to occur to them that maybe they should have tried to stop his ass via legal means long before now.

 

[Jub-Jub]

There's not enough adderall in the world to get me to comb through MoRonica's dumpster file of a TCPA again, but from what I've noticed there's a pretty big missing gap of documentation that predates January 2019. It's all looking like affidavits of people who've come out afterwards who are saying that things they didn't like happened much prior. Where's the emails from conventions? Where's the formal complaints filed? Police reports? Hell, I'd take contemporaneous chat messages or facebook posts. But they've got essentially nothing that was put down on paper before they decided that they wanted to kick Vic.

If you do start looking into documentation that exists prior to 2019 then you'll find the opposite occurring.

• Monica and Kara are on video, sitting next to and flirting with Vic, day(s) after their traumatic experiences that they want you to believe was attempted rape.
• Manjaw has an old live journal and only complains that Vic stole 'her' projector at the convention and IIRC bitches about some other unnamed creeper, no mention of underage girls in rooms.
• Emmet praises Vic and his hair one day after his account and later brags about having his phone number.
• Faisel (according to Dahlin) never brings up the incident in his account or bans Vic despite having full control from 2016 and Vic goes to the con in 2017.
• Tecco con accounts have numerous contradictions (a running theme)
• Michelle; wrong school, wrong year, wrong state.

 

[curious gentoo]

And that's the thing that just blows their whole defense apart.

If he was THAT dangerous, WHY DID THEY NOT DO SHIT ABOUT HIM MUCH EARLIER THAN NOW?

They waited years after the fact and only after he sued for defamation to bring any of this up, but their stories make him sound like the second coming of The Rapeman and he should never see natural light ever again, but it never seemed to occur to them that maybe they should have tried to stop his ass via legal means long before now.

This is why the winning play when you're cornered is to tell the truth a la Stan Dahlin. If you agree with KickVic's nonsense then you're agreeing to be another assailant in allowing an alleged predator creep on young girls, for years! Look at the fire that Faisal guy is getting trying to side with scum and wiping his hands clean with namedropping. That's why I expect a lot more affidavits coming out refuting claims or absolutely denying any of these activities Vic is accused of.

 

[Imago]

Reading these filings, I'm reminded of an old legal saw: If the facts are not on your side hammer the law. If the law is not on your side hammer the facts. If both the facts and the law are against you hammer the opposing council. These filings look like he just took everything his clients gave him and dropped it into the document no matter how irrelevant. If that's true it means this is everything they have to put in front of the jury.

It makes the timing of the TCPA almost sensible. Ronica didn't come through with the investigation report or the hundred of witness, meaning they had to get something during the depositions they could use. Shake the trees, hammer the opposition and see if anything falls out. Challenge the Gofundme and Vic's employment history, do anything to muddy the waters for the TCPA hearing.

The super lawyers are facing the reality of arguing an affirmative defense with no independent witnesses and a client
who can't remember his own name. Funimation is facing the possibility that they might be on the hook for years of
exceptional HR fuckery. At some point you just close your eyes and throw the ball as hard as you can.

 

[kadoink]

Mondays streams gonna be special, ain't it?;P

 

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Man, if BHBH forces Funimation to recognize all their VAs as employees and not "independent contractors" that will be a megaton bomb that will completely change the face of the voice acting industry for decades.

Hell, Nick or someone else suitably professional could probably do so via an anonymous complaint filed with the IRS.

If anything, I bet Funimation decides to settle pretty fucking fast if it gets to the point that they're at risk of having VAs changed to Employees.

 

[BillyGoat2]

And the holes in their stories continue


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That_Umbrella_Guy on Twitter

“Damn, Stan Dahlin having NONE of this bullshit. That says PLENTY on what's transpiring, and you KNOW more people know it. The just dont have the stones to stand up to the KICKVIC mob because they have something to lose. F-em. IStandWithVic”

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YellowFlash on Twitter

“Look at this @TyBeard10 @NickRekieta @ThatUmbrella @_Hero_Hei_ @emoshislive! All star witness for Monica Rial and Ron Toye is already a proven liar! But hey, listen and believe! #IStandWithVic more than ever!”

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Sods can at least post direct or archive links to the tweets in question from Stan.

https://twitter.com/scdahlin/status/1153027918097997824

http://archive.is/od0Og

 

[ErbBetaPatch]

Does that exclude Todd Haberkorn too? I understand he and Vic haven't been the friendliest, but he's been something of a target himself, as I'm sure we're all aware. If it's about wrongthink, then...

Todd and Vic naturally have to be at odds because their voices are very similar. They compete for the same roles.

 

[2lolis1cup]

Man, if BHBH forces Funimation to recognize all their VAs as employees and not "independent contractors" that will be a megaton bomb that will completely change the face of the voice acting industry for decades.

I have an artistic rendition of FUNimation's lawyer and Tammy Denbow being told that they haven't paid their taxes for 15 years.

 

[instythot]

While the entire document is garbage, I still think the biggest problem is simply asserting "Vic is a public figure, so all of this is in the public interest and not defamatory" without explicitly saying "Vic is a public figure supported by the following evidence..."

With my limited understanding of the procedures from my month long crash course, aren't all disputes of fact assumed to be resolved in favor of the plaintiff for prima facie purposes?

 

[Wake me up]

all their VAs as employees and not "independent contractors"

Instant class action lawsuit for every single VA that worked with them, asking for 10-20 years of corrected paychecks and benefits which could easily be the same amount they were already paid first time around (benefits are usually real expensive). If they can even survive that as a studio, papa Sony is not going to be happy about it, not at the slightest really.

But I mean, only if the voice actors are actually smart enough to organize and do it full-force instead of just one or two (otherwise they'll never work there again). Seeing that the caliber of high minds this community has to present for itself, I wouldn't be surprised if they passed the opportunity even when it's right fucking there for the taking and lawyers would be happy to work on contingency if there was a recent lawsuit proving the fact and so much money in total was at stake.

Quite ironically, I imagine Monica and Marchi would be the ones most desperately looking to squirt some good dough out of Funimation because a year or two from now they'll be broke and still owe both Vic and their lawyers large sums of money.

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

And the holes in their stories continue


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That_Umbrella_Guy on Twitter

“Damn, Stan Dahlin having NONE of this bullshit. That says PLENTY on what's transpiring, and you KNOW more people know it. The just dont have the stones to stand up to the KICKVIC mob because they have something to lose. F-em. IStandWithVic”

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YellowFlash on Twitter

“Look at this @TyBeard10 @NickRekieta @ThatUmbrella @_Hero_Hei_ @emoshislive! All star witness for Monica Rial and Ron Toye is already a proven liar! But hey, listen and believe! #IStandWithVic more than ever!”

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inb4 "Stan Dahlin fucked 40 underage girls at his con over the course of 3 years and pissed in my cornflakes. I don't have evidence but I posted it on PULL so it's true!"

 

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Instant class action lawsuit for every single VA that worked with them, asking for 10-20 years of corrected paychecks and benefits which could easily be the same amount they were already paid first time around (benefits are usually real expensive). If they can even survive that as a studio, papa Sony is not going to be happy about it, not at the slightest really.

Not just "every VA that worked with [Funimation]." That would affect Viz. Aniplex. Sentai. All the video game dubbing studios. All the normie cartoons. It would completely change the face of the voice acting industry.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

Not just "every VA that worked with [Funimation]." That would affect Viz. Aniplex. Sentai. All the video game dubbing studios. All the normie cartoons. It would completely change the face of the voice acting industry.

Only if the contracts have similar hold over the VA's or clauses as Funimation. Every contract is different, so it's not guaranteed to be that far reaching.

 

[AnOminous]

With my limited understanding of the procedures from my month long crash course, aren't all disputes of fact assumed to be resolved in favor of the plaintiff for prima facie purposes?

Public figure status is a matter of law the judge decides. I'm not sure if it's ripe for decision at the TCPA stage, though.

 

[JohnDoe]

Public figure status is a matter of law the judge decides. I'm not sure if it's ripe for decision at the TCPA stage, though.

Seems as though it'd be pretrial motion practice then. I don't believe Texas would use a jury to determine that status.

 

[instythot]

Public figure status is a matter of law the judge decides. I'm not sure if it's ripe for decision at the TCPA stage, though.

If it's not ripe for decision at this stage, wouldn't it need to be assumed that he isn't if there's any dispute to prevent legitimate cases from being thrown out with a "haha, I call public figure! Can't sue me now!"