Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

The Gaming Press is at or near extinction levels. The consumers moved on to more reliable Youtubers simply showing them gameplay, and not lecturing them on how awful they are. Game Publishers are starting to feel the consumer disdain and apathy brought on by years of treating their customers like shit. Activision lost $18 Billion in valuation this week alone. There was never any possible lose state for GG or Gamers in Gamergate, for the simple fact that it is Gamers who are the only source of all the money in the system. When you piss them off they stop spending. It isn’t an overnight thing. The impacts of things like GG and CG are long term. But at the end of the day the long term result is the producers and publishers have slowly driven off a portion of their consumer base that exceeds their fairly narrow profit margins. All on the basis of being told there is a newer better SJW customer out there just waiting. There never is.
Basically they may have won the battle but we'll win the war correct?

Not that I intended to go balls deep into it, but thanks for breaking it down for me! This certainly explains the sad state of Marvel comics. How tragic.
On the flip side because Disney/Warner doesn't give a shit there's a chance the comics can be reclaimed by fans after the PC bubble/Trump hysteria finally dies out. Whereas the films will always be slaves to shitty Hollywood trends/China.
 
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Pretty much. There are many contributing factors and Ethan Van Scyver covers them all pretty well on his channel from a pro who lived through it perspective.

From my POV as a regular reader who gave up comics after the crash, it had a lot to do with the quality of both art and story cratering HARD. Marvel stopped giving people quality of any degree and began the descent into 3rd and lower tier creatives who they could pay less, combined with more 'corporate' involvement in editorial/creative.

Just look at any Marc Silvestri or Chris Claremont from pre 95 to anything modern. Even Liefeld's no feet era is worlds better than Squirrel Girl.

On the flip side because Disney/Warner doesn't give a shit there's a chance the comics can be reclaimed by fans after the PC bubble/Trump hysteria finally dies out. Whereas the films will always be slaves to shitty Hollywood trends/China.
Optimistically speaking, Marvel seems to be heading into a better direction ever since A Fresh Start happened.
It’s not perfect and there are still vestiges of the woke era but it gives me hope.
 
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They never truly recovered from the near death experience in the 90s if you think about it. The fact that Marvel Studios is adapting Lady Thor spells darker times ahead.
The problem isn't recovery it's that they didn't learn a damn thing from it.

Marvel is still doing the exact same thing it did during the crash. Over flooding the market with shit and relying on cheap gimmicks/events to sell books.
 
The problem isn't recovery it's that they didn't learn a damn thing from it.

Marvel is still doing the exact same thing it did during the crash. Over flooding the market with shit and relying on cheap gimmicks/events to sell books.
I know DC does that too. Western comics have so many problems beyond SJW garbage.
 
No idea what "the Langdon treatment" is, though.

Again,
Langdon said he couldn't picture Vic doing the things accused of him and Vic deserved a fair shot in a stream with Toy Bounty Hunter (w/ Yellow Flash):

Newsweek and Eurogamer wrote rather slanted opinion pieces about him after :

Langdon was also savaged by ResetEra and PrettyUglyLittleLiars, too
 
Lol... Boomer trolling at its finest 😄

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I know DC does that too. Western comics have so many problems beyond SJW garbage.
DC recently sliced it's comics output down by what 22 titles? So they seem to be learning somewhat.

DC's biggest problem now imo aside from hiring Marvel's gutter trash is their over-reliance on Batman * Marvel has this problem too with Spider-Man *.

One character does not need a dozen books.
 
Shouldn't that read "Bare" the weight of it? Because maybe its just me but nothing screams "Victim of sex fiend" more than a chick in a bikini posting fap pix.

Oh wait...

Specht never herself claimed that she was a victim of assault at the hands of Vic.

She just believes literally everyone who says they are and imagines Vic to have wacky sex pics and sex vids (that haven't materialized since WW began). Also, she's a victim of his infidelity.
 
Specht never herself claimed that she was a victim of assault at the hands of Vic.

She just believes literally everyone who says they are and imagines Vic to have wacky sex pics and sex vids (that haven't materialized since WW began). Also, she's a victim of his infidelity.
Agreed, but if she wants to throw her lot in with the new puritains, thats a peculiar way of doing it.

Edit: Also, since no one else was actually sexually assaulted by Vic, arent they ALL simply playing the association game? I mean we are in a time where dream rape and class actions are on the table.
 
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Here's another one of the recent affiants in the TCPA motion filed by Monica and Ron. You may not remember her, but she's one of the people who tweeted about Vic at the very beginning of all of this. Her first tweet concerning this was on January 17.

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Dox:
2 Camship
Laguana Niguel, CA 92677
DOB: August 2, 1986
Email: Onelani@aol.com
Website: http://kellyloftus.com


Although Kelly hasn't said much herself on social media over the past several months, she does tend to retweet some familiar faces:

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Even this lordly fellow who appears to have caught the attention of the posters here just earlier today.

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And even a few nobodies and hacks.

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She also seems to be one of the people who've been contacting conventions to get Vic removed.

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And encouraged others to speak out as well. It's quite likely that she's one of the individuals in the ANN article.

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Unlike the Con managers with arrest records, wife beaters, or burger flipping losers that we've come to know and love recently, Kelly isn't very interesting. She makes and sells plushies (stuffed animals) and other anime related sewing crafts through her website and at anime conventions. About the worst that could be said of Kelly is that she's 32 and still living at home with her parents.

So how do you track someone down when they don't own any property that they pay taxes on, haven't registered a business, or any of the other usual things that leave a public records trail? You go after the one thing that they do own, their domain name:

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But that was registered almost 7 years ago you might say. How can we be sure that she's actually living there or just didn't use her parents address when signing up for the website?

Google Maps: 2 Camship Laguana Niguel CA

Fortunately the house is at an intersection so we can get around to the back yard where she takes pictures of her creations and cosplay. Fortunately we have some from within the last several months.

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There are some earlier ones as well with additional parts of the house or the shorter fence in the back yard, but I don't think they're necessary. Also, a big thanks to special detective @CBBD for all his hard work in assisting me with this case.

So other than a few other interesting tweets (archive) that are just more of the same, is she a big fat liar, did Vic actually do what she claims that he did? Truthfully I don't know. Her Twitter was extensively searched with nary a mention of Vic up until January of this year and there's no reference to the event she describes on any of her social media.

So I went back to her affidavit for more clues. She gives us the time and location where this allegedly occurred, but I can't find her or anyone else mentioning at the time. In the grainy-ass photo of her text messages she does address a friend of hers as Kiba.

So naturally the next step was to determine whether or not Kiba has had anything to say about this. After a very exhaustive investigation, Kiba has not once mentioned the incident or anything related to this anywhere. She is a big fan of FMA and has professed strong Christian values so it's certainly understandable why she might be a big fan of Vic. Similarly, there is no record that Kelly actually mentioned this alleged incident to Kiba either, and there is a compelling argument that she never did either.

But just in case Kelly doesn't believe that we found her friend, here's a picture of them with Kiba driving. Kelly (Toboe) appears to be passed out in the back. The person in the passenger seat is another friend of theirs from when they all attended an art school that's since been shut down.

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So why do I cast doubt on Kelly's story? First, if you look at her text message to her friend, she doesn't ask if her friend still has the pictures of Vic hugging and kissing her. She asks her friend if she still has the box that Vic signed. That leads me to believe that she never sent Kiba those pictures, or may not have even mentioned it to her.

But maybe she can still recover those pictures from her old laptop!

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And how long ago did you change phones?

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Good luck finding that thing after three years.

However, unlike so many other people who spout the kind of hate and vitriol that makes it easy to dismiss their claims, it doesn't exactly appear as though Kelly has a motive to lie about it either. Perhaps one could argue that she's simple heard too many rumors over the years and is misremembering an even or perhaps imagined it for some reason. She does think that Vic has had a bad reputation for quite a while.

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But part of me thinks that she really doesn't like Vic. If you go back to her original tweet, she censors his name out "V** M*******" as though it's some kind of curse word. Who actually does something like that? She also seems a little too delighted at the outcome as well.

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Either way I've spent far too many hours of my life looking into someone who's mainly just a boring weeb. Maybe she has some truly scandalous shit to unearth like unpaid late fees at the local library, but I'll leave that to others.

Edit: Unless...

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Great mother of god!

It's actually nothing.
Really.
Hopefully.
 
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