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DBZA doesn't make money directly, which is the only thing that counts when it comes to copyright. Toei's problem is that they're stuck in the 19th century and don't understand what fair use parody is. This is extremely common of Japanese companies. They insist that they need to use DRM protection in games, they don't understand that piracy is 99% composed of people who never would have bought their game to begin with, and they very much don't understand fanmade works. There's a misunderstanding where people believe Japan is ahead of the game because it allows doujinshi, but in reality that's a closely regulated business that mostly exists because the companies feel looking the other way will be less trouble for them than trying to stomp it out, not because they actually realize it's good for their business. That's why every once in a while you'll hear about them attacking doujin, or going after scanlation sites that only cater to countries their manga isn't released in yet.
Japan is rabid about its copyright, and doesn't understand fair use or 'this loss leader increases fan support' at all.
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Natewantstobattle accused someone of raping his girlfriend I think in 2017, this wasn't just 'unable to be proven', it was actually proven to be a lie, and he had to back off. Nate's not really that important though, so the scandal never really blew up and most people missed it.
Toei is limited in how much control they actually have over DBZ casting. It's not completely impossible to get someone on TFS voicing someone in DBZ. The two rules they'd need to follow for that is that the VA in question couldn't voice someone they have in DBZA, and they can't use a recognizable voice they used in DBZA. Basically Lani can't use his Vegeta voice, Taka can't use his Nappa voice, neither can voice those characters, but they could theoretically voice Hit in their speaking voice. As for why they haven't, that's likely because Sabat's pet project gets lower priority with roles than the insiders he's known for decades.
Also, let me clear something up - Toei has no control over DBZA. No matter how many times they throw a temper tantrum and yank down DBZA videos, they actually cannot remove them so long as they only release videos that include clips that Funimation has the license to. (So up to he latest Super episode posted on their website) Youtube is broken, so Toei can flex on them and yank their videos, but they actually have no right to do so. Funimation has complete control of the distribution of Dragon ball content in America and whatever other territories Funimation owns the licenses to. That's why TFS' relationship with Funimation is so important. Although Toei can flex on Funimation and say "those people can't do that segment" or "Vic has to voice Broly" they're legally unable to say "That dragon ball content can't be on youtube".
If Toei yanks the rights from Funimation, the rights will then move to whatever other company they give the rights to - and if TFS is smart they'll delist all their videos until that happens, so Toei can't strike them, and hope for the new company to be sympathetic to them (and I doubt very much that "you must destroy DBZA" will be a part of a new contract, because if Toei wanted that to be a dealbreaker it already would be with Funimation).
It's not just DB content creators. Broly is insanely divisive in fandom and pretty much always has been. He was a stupid but mediocre character in his first movie that a select part of fandom went insane over because "HIS POWER IS MAXIMUM" and then due to that select part wanking him into oblivion he kept getting sequel movies that were progressively worse. If I recall correctly, half of TFS are actually Broly fans. I think maybe Kaiser or Takahata liked Broly? The other half, Lani included, hated him. It's nothing to do with Vic and everything to do with him being the distilled embodiment of the worst of Dragon ball Z. If you remember the webcomic 'Dragonball Multiverse' (which ended up weirdly similar to Super) that also got big for a while, they had the same schism in their fanbase over including Broly.
I very much doubt Vic becoming 'the Don', that was just a hypothetical I was using. However, I can pretty handily guarantee that Sabat will lose his power. Ty is incensed with Sabat in particular, and Vic is really not pleased with him, either. Much as I used to be a fan of Sabat, if Vic's lawsuit is successful I don't see this ending any other way than Sabat getting dragged through the streets and exposed. I suspect any settlement he gets - even if he tries - will be more painful than Ron's.
Say what you will about Pewdiepie, but that man is a genius at Youtube. You don't make it to #1 for five-to-seven years, and then only lose out to Youtube literally rigging a giant company to beat you and still survive for most of a year in that impossible battle without knowing exactly how to play Youtube. He's even survived multiple content shifts and controversies. One of either of those is usually enough to fell a youtuber. What I'm getting at is that just because Pewdiepie managed something doesn't necessarily mean it can easily be done by others. He's surprisingly shrewd.
I don't know what that means. I'm afraid I never got into Channel Awesome. The only CA person I kept track of at all was Spoony until he moved from the Jontron style of reviews to basically extra lazy let's play content.
Toei can't overcome copyright laws, but TFS doesn't have the money to fight them on it. That's why they need Daddy Funimation to protect them, and as we've determined from both this lawsuit and their publicly available history, that's really 'Daddy Sabat'. Though it's possible if Funimation retains the rights they may keep protecting DBZA even if Sabat get's screwed, so long as TFS doesn't stab Funimation in the back along the way. Chris Ayres likes TeamFourStar enough that he says LK's Frieza voice informed his own, and as mentioned everyone but Sean Schemmel is on record enjoying DBZA.
But OJ and Nicole were divorced when she was murdered. Assuming he did murder her, it was very clearly a crime of passion. This allegory is complete nonsense unless they're arguing that Vic is in danger of losing his mind and going on a murder spree.
Oh dear god! There is just so much wrong there. To start off regarding any thoughts of Toei not being able to do anything about TFS because DBZ is licensed to Funi in the States and Funi is in some way protecting them? Yeah, no! That’s actually the exact opposite of how such licensing works. Toei has the legal obligation as the root IP owner to protect the value of the license that Funi has contracted. Technically Funi isn’t supposed to go after TFS directly, the way such licenses work is they pass the complaint up and the owner takes action. Toei can be sued for failing to take action. Funi can neither complain nor prevent such action. And Toei is well within their rights to block any participants in unlicensed bootlegging of their IP from in any way being a participant in official offerings. This isn’t like the old days of WEP and Harmony Gold where full rights are signed away for a small lump sum. Where the American localizers could literally buy the IP because they were viewed as valueless.
Something else to keep in mind. We throw Toei around a lot, without ever realizing who or what Toei actually is. Japan doesn’t have particularly strong anti trust laws. Nor have they ever had laws demanding separation between children’s tv producers and toy manufacturers. These companies are a incestuous Byzantine web that for the most part leads back to one main player. Bandai. Or rather the corporate overlord Bandai Namco. Bandai Namco either outright owns (Sunrise) or has controlling interest in ( Toei, Tsubaraya). (An easy way to see which studios Bandai owns or controls is to look at the toy lines they produce year after year as opposed to short runs). Bandai is an IP controlling behemoth on par with Disney.