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[AprilRains]

All I'm trying to say is that perhaps becoming the physical manifestation of Krog'Zoth the Nig-Stomping Lib-Wrecker may not actually be the best way to avoid living up to the mischaracterizations of the Left.

Sadly, that doesn't seem to feed into some people's sick power fantasies.

Where ruthlessness has a point, I can be sold on it sometimes. Where it doesn't, it just tells me who you are.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

All I'm trying to say is that perhaps becoming the physical manifestation of Krog'Zoth the Nig-Stomping Lib-Wrecker may not actually be the best way to avoid living up to the mischaracterizations of the Left.

Yes, because they've demonstrated so much nuance in dealing with other points of view.

I appreciate where you're coming from -- I really do -- but any attempt to reach across to the left is doomed to failure because we are already the bad guys anyways. Not just the Farms; any nonleftist viewpoint in general is doubleplusungood badthink.

 

[AprilRains]

Yes, because they've demonstrated so much nuance in dealing with other points of view.

I appreciate where you're coming from -- I really do -- but any attempt to reach across to the left is doomed to failure because we are already the bad guys anyways. Not just the Farms; any nonleftist viewpoint in general is doubleplusungood badthink.

Fuck reaching to the left, then. Hold the left accountable for this situation. If they're fighting funding for these places and that has led to this sorry state of affairs, smack them with that.

Or not, but letting dislike of the left lead us to mistreat prisoners seems like a triumph of narcissism. How does this petty mistreatment accomplish any real policy goal, other than giving sick fucks some masturbation fodder?

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

Where ruthlessness has a point, I can be sold on it sometimes. Where it doesn't, it just tells me who you are.

And who are you and why do you matter, again?

 

[It's HK-47]

Okay, guess that joke fell flat. If the name "Krog'Zoth the Nig-Stomping Lib-Wrecker" didn't signify that I'm just in a shitposting mood then I really don't know how much clearer I can make it. I didn't think that we were so deep in a legitimate discussion here that even a name like that would fail to perk a few eyebrows. The point still remains, though, that if one side of the aisle is screaming about you being the bad guy then it's really not a good plan to act like the bad guy.

It's satisfying, sure, but all you wind up doing is scaring off the middle of the field because you're validating what Team B is screaming about, and the crowd of voters sitting on the fence is infinitely larger than either wing of either party will ever be. The biggest reason that the Right Wing is even winning right now is because they may have Trump up on stage kicking and screaming and throwing the laser pointer all over the room, but behind closed doors things are calmly and rationally being accomplished, and middling voters really like seeing sanity right now.

If we started to just turn everyone at the border into lead-filled Swiss cheese then I can promise you with 100% certainty that we'll all be saying "Good Morning, President Biden/Harris/Warren" come 2020.

 

[Vorhtbame]

You guys are aware that the Left is not listening, but have you forgotten that there are people who aren't Left or Right, and they do listen?

Sometimes you argue not to convince your opponent, but the audience. Think about who might be listening when you start bellowing about taco-niggers or whatever it is you want to call them. Just sayin'.

EDIT: HK ninja'ed me yet again, and more eloquently. One of these days, droid...

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Fuck reaching to the left, then. Hold the left accountable for this situation. If they're fighting funding for these places and that has led to this sorry state of affairs, smack them with that.

Well, we do, although it makes no impact on the left. They will continue to insist it is Trump's fault.

Or not, but letting dislike of the left lead us to mistreat prisoners seems like a triumph of narcissism. How does this petty mistreatment accomplish any real policy goal, other than giving sick fucks some masturbation fodder?

If we are actively mistreating them, yes, that is an issue -- but shortages of supplies are a thing, and if we don't have soap, we don't have soap. We can't just shit out bars of Dove at will.

Bluntly put, these people should not be here. Full stop. My feeling is that it's very much akin to the burglar who breaks into a house, injures himself, and then wants to sue the homeowner. Frankly, we need to be just tossing them on a bus to Tijuana and shipping them back, 24/7.

 

[Flexo]

Krog'Zoth the Nig-Stomping Lib-Wrecker

Wait, when can I vote for that guy?

 

[AprilRains]

Well, we do, although it makes no impact on the left. They will continue to insist it is Trump's fault.

Read @Vorhtbame 's post above about playing to the middle.

If we are actively mistreating them, yes, that is an issue -- but shortages of supplies are a thing, and if we don't have soap, we don't have soap. We can't just shit out bars of Dove at will.

Jesus Christ that's weak. We're America. We can afford fucking soap.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

If we started to just turn everyone at the border into lead-filled Swiss cheese then I can promise you with 100% certainty that we'll all be saying "Good Morning, President Biden/Harris/Warren" come 2020.

I mean you're right, but since Trump hasn't returned any of my calls about that Secretary of State position I don't exactly think my views on it are a huge threat to his reelection bid.

Not all of the shit I say is a bid for actual policy, nor is all of it taken with the utmost consideration for long-term ramifications. And I guarantee you that maybe 0.1% of it is said with the intent to seriously influence anyone's opinions or sway an audience, because the other 99.9% is all about just saying what I feel like saying for my own entertainment or interest. I personally despise the idea that I should have to behave as if I am at all times acting as official ambassador for every movement, ideology, or philosophy that I either belong to or have some overlap with and therefore must be held to stringent but vague concepts of proper behavior. Such an "unwritten ambassadorship" is akin to the "social contract", and just like with that I didn't sign shit. I'm not being paid, no one's my boss, I'll say what I feel like and fuck you and your movement for trying to tell me I shouldn't.

There's only like three fuckers here trying to demand I maintain credibility in discussion of the border issue. Meanwhile I named myself after a term for anime tiddies and most of my activity on this forum is making fun of an unemployed never-was cartoonist with an inflation fetish, do you really think I'm terribly concerned about how I appear to others under this identity?

 

[SmallTalk201]

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If we started to just turn everyone at the border into lead-filled Swiss cheese then I can promise you with 100% certainty that we'll all be saying "Good Morning, President Biden/Harris/Warren" come 2020.

I view the migration issue as an attempt from hostile powers wishing to colonize or reclaim American territory. best way to handle this is reverse the flow of migration

How can one reverse the flow of migration you might ask? Simple. Give wanna be migrants gibbmedats to stay in their place of origin in exchange of turning their neighborhood into an American enclave or American governed piece of turf. They would have to obey all American laws and allow American military and law enforcement to be stationed in the enclave to enforce said laws. They would have to cut any political and legal ties to their home country and agree to become American subjects for a generous monthly tugboat. Not citizens. Subjects. They won't have the right to vote.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

We shouldn't even be holding these people in the first place. Bus them a few hundred miles south of the border and dump them. It's gotta be cheaper than maintaining these facilities.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Their imprisonment is just. Failing to treat them according to standards of prisoner treatment is not.

Would you support not providing these things to dudes locked up in county jail?

Stop supporting Democrat abuse as a political leverage tactic.

Dude, the people in this thread aren't in control of fucking budgeting for the border facilities. What the fuck are you just repeating this over and over for? Do you propose any action whatsoever?

All I'm trying to say is that perhaps becoming the physical manifestation of Krog'Zoth the Nig-Stomping Lib-Wrecker may not actually be the best way to avoid living up to the mischaracterizations of the Left.

People just got sick of AprilRains repeating "kids in cages, no soap" over and over again. With no argument or proposal attached. Nobody is seriously saying to machinegun the people attempting to cross, so why are you acting like anyone is? We've heard that for what.... 2 years now?

Jigglyjoggers got sick of AprilRains needling, and I don't blame him.

Any undecided voters can probably be trusted to use their own ability to think critically, the sudden weird tone policing in this thread is stupid.

 

[heyitsmike]

The border holding facilities are like a gas station bathroom that stays completely trashed. You can't get upset at the employees that it's disgusting when the owner won't let you put up a sign that says 'Paying customers only.'

The Democrats won't allow Trump to prevent people from coming in and swamping the system and then they turn around and pretend to get all upset over the conditions. The Democrats either want to force Trump to let everyone in (and provide them with a new source of Democrat votes) to prevent the overcrowding, or in the alternative, use the conditions as a cudgel against him. They have no interest in fixing the problem because it doesn't benefit them.

And let's stop pretending the people coming are these virtuous, noble hard workers. They are attempting to exploit the taxpayers of the United States by coming to receive free healthcare and other benefits. They are freeloaders and golddiggers. Fuck them and the Democrats.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

The border holding facilities are like a gas station bathroom that stays completely trashed. You can't get upset at the employees that it's disgusting when the owner won't let you put up a sign that says 'Paying customers only.'

The Democrats won't allow Trump to prevent people from coming in and swamping the system and then they turn around and pretend to get all upset over the conditions. The Democrats either want to force Trump to let everyone in (and provide them with a new source of Democrat votes) to prevent the overcrowding, or in the alternative, use the conditions as a cudgel against him. They have no interest in fixing the problem because it doesn't benefit them.

And let's stop pretending the people coming are these virtuous, noble hard workers. They are attempting to exploit the taxpayers of the United States by coming to receive free healthcare and other benefits. They are freeloaders and golddiggers. Fuck them and the Democrats.

They also refuse to allow the funding to buy the soap and toothpaste. It doesn't matter how much money "america" has, the government needs it budgeted. The dems say "Nope, you can't have toothpaste money. No soap money". Then they immediately turn around and scream "TRUMP WON'T GIVE THESE POOR CHILDREN SOAP".

The democrats are holding those kids' teeth and stinky armpits hostage to get more people to say "Fuck having laws and borders and shit".

 

[It's HK-47]

People just got sick of AprilRains repeating "kids in cages, no soap" over and over again. With no argument or proposal attached. Nobody is seriously saying to machinegun the people attempting to cross, so why are you acting like anyone is? We've heard that for what.... 2 years now?

Jigglyjoggers got sick of AprilRains needling, and I don't blame him.

Any undecided voters can probably be trusted to use their own ability to think critically, the sudden weird tone policing in this thread is stupid.

If there's a situation in the detention facilities where-in the Democrats are actively pursuing polices with the intent of creating an inhumane situation--which is exactly what they were doing under Obama, which they're trying to blame Trump for now--then why doesn't that fact interest people. If there are children in the detention facilities and there are shortages of supplies for the people we're detaining there and that shortage is expressly able to be laid at the feet of the Democrats because they're playing political football while a bunch of people sit around in a room smelling like pits just so some people hundreds and hundreds of miles away can try to blame that on Trump instead, then... Wouldn't it be smart to focus on that?

If I was Trump I'd be pointing my finger directly at that and going, "kids stink; democrats did it lol" because anything less than that is just playing directly into their hands. I'm at a loss to understand the contention here in that regard, because if you were juxtaposed to what the Democrats were doing then wouldn't you... Want to give them soap and toothpaste? Did I make my coffee too weak this morning?

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Sheeeeeeeiiiittt

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

If there's a situation in the detention facilities where-in the Democrats are actively pursuing polices with the intent of creating an inhumane situation--which is exactly what they were doing under Obama, which they're trying to blame Trump for now--then why doesn't that fact interest people. If there are children in the detention facilities and there are shortages of supplies for the people we're detaining there and that shortage is expressly able to be laid at the feet of the Democrats because they're playing political football while a bunch of people sit around in a room smelling like pits just so some people hundreds and hundreds of miles away can try to blame that on Trump instead, then... Wouldn't it be smart to focus on that?

And who is going to focus on that?

CNN, MSNBC, Twitter, Facebook? Sorry, they're all in on calling it Trump's fault, they're not going to suddenly be honest because some kids got some toothpaste. (As if a single one of them actually gives a shit about those children other than using them as bullets loaded into a propaganda gun to aim at the Republicans.)

Fox? Oh sure maybe once or twice on the opinion programs, but at the end of the day they're too pussy afraid of being further labeled the Republican propaganda network to really counter the narrative.

And do you really, honestly think that they would allow Trump to point his finger and go "See? We fixed what the Democrats broke"? You know full well what would happen, there would be a three day blitz of "UNHINGED TRUMP TWEET TANTRUMS TAKING CREDIT FOR IMPROVED CONDITIONS IN HIS CONCENTRATION CAMPS", with maybe a few tepid "Democrats Refuse Trump Credit For Improved Conditions In Detention Camps" notes from Fox and a completely and utterly unacknowledged rebuttal from the independent press. And we know this would happen because that is what has happened every single time he has fixed something Democrats have broken.

Notwithstanding, what is being said here, now, is why the fuck does it matter whether we focus on that in this thread on this forum or not? Is Kiwi Farms considered an influencer now? I know Null loves his little e-fame bites at the lower right, but is anyone actually, really coming here for information? Yes it's all well and good to say what we'd like Trump to do, what would be smart to do, but what's being dodged is that now you've got some who are finger-wagging saying "No no no, don't say things that give the Left ammo, we all have to be good and only say good things here." Is anyone actually so delusional that they think people who have been following this thread are still undecided on their vote for 2020? That there was someone out there reading saying "Shit, over 2000 pages of unhinged ranting about Trump and wanting to kill him and his family, open the borders, give taxpayer-funded abortions to transwomen... but Animetitties Bashir said we should shoot people that try to cross the border illegally, guess I'll vote Democrat"?

I mean it's all very well to talk about the spectacle twitter makes of itself, or the public news makes of itself, but the vast majority of people out there don't know what the fuck Kiwi Farms is. The Farms itself is irrelevant to the national stage, and individual posters moreso. You want a 2020 breakdown? Here's the breakdown. If you have any amount of TDS, you're voting for whoever the Democrats put up. If you don't have any amount of TDS, you're probably voting for Trump or just staying home. That's the lowdown, that's the deciding factor, we could have the election today and it'd probably go down the same as it would next year. I won't deny there's a war for America's soul happening, but it's happening in the back rooms of congress, it's happening in the courts, it's happening amongst the blue checkmarks and their comment threads. We, here? We're no party to it, and acting as if every post you make must be a crafted battle in this war for America's soul is just gonna make you go grey.

Say what you want to say because you want to say it, not because you think it's what you should say. Embrace irrelevance, you'll be happier for it.

 

[Vorhtbame]

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Link please?

 

[It's HK-47]

And who is going to focus on that?

CNN, MSNBC, Twitter, Facebook? Sorry, they're all in on calling it Trump's fault, they're not going to suddenly be honest because some kids got some toothpaste. (As if a single one of them actually gives a shit about those children other than using them as bullets loaded into a propaganda gun to aim at the Republicans.)

Fox? Oh sure maybe once or twice on the opinion programs, but at the end of the day they're too pussy afraid of being further labeled the Republican propaganda network to really counter the narrative.

And do you really, honestly think that they would allow Trump to point his finger and go "See? We fixed what the Democrats broke"? You know full well what would happen, there would be a three day blitz of "UNHINGED TRUMP TWEET TANTRUMS TAKING CREDIT FOR IMPROVED CONDITIONS IN HIS CONCENTRATION CAMPS", with maybe a few tepid "Democrats Refuse Trump Credit For Improved Conditions In Detention Camps" notes from Fox and a completely and utterly unacknowledged rebuttal from the independent press. And we know this would happen because that is what has happened every single time he has fixed something Democrats have broken.

Notwithstanding, what is being said here, now, is why the fuck does it matter whether we focus on that in this thread on this forum or not? Is Kiwi Farms considered an influencer now? I know Null loves his little e-fame bites at the lower right, but is anyone actually, really coming here for information? Yes it's all well and good to say what we'd like Trump to do, what would be smart to do, but what's being dodged is that now you've got some who are finger-wagging saying "No no no, don't say things that give the Left ammo, we all have to be good and only say good things here." Is anyone actually so delusional that they think people who have been following this thread are still undecided on their vote for 2020? That there was someone out there reading saying "Shit, over 2000 pages of unhinged ranting about Trump and wanting to kill him and his family, open the borders, give taxpayer-funded abortions to transwomen... but Animetitties Bashir said we should shoot people that try to cross the border illegally, guess I'll vote Democrat"?

I mean it's all very well to talk about the spectacle twitter makes of itself, or the public news makes of itself, but the vast majority of people out there don't know what the fuck Kiwi Farms is. The Farms itself is irrelevant to the national stage, and individual posters moreso. You want a 2020 breakdown? Here's the breakdown. If you have any amount of TDS, you're voting for whoever the Democrats put up. If you don't have any amount of TDS, you're probably voting for Trump or just staying home. That's the lowdown, that's the deciding factor, we could have the election today and it'd probably go down the same as it would next year. I won't deny there's a war for America's soul happening, but it's happening in the back rooms of congress, it's happening in the courts, it's happening amongst the blue checkmarks and their comment threads. We, here? We're no party to it, and acting as if every post you make must be a crafted battle in this war for America's soul is just gonna make you go grey.

Say what you want to say because you want to say it, not because you think it's what you should say. Embrace irrelevance, you'll be happier for it.

Oh my God I don't care about what the Left thinks just kill them with soap I don't want to argue about fucking soap anymore