Plagued Pizzagate / Pedogate - Batshit Conspiracy Nuts Who See Pedos Everywhere

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

If you wanna discuss elites pedopholia problem, feel free to start a thread on it in politics or deep thoughts subforum.

But even if you are concerned about this topic, you should realize a bunch of schizophrenic boomers who worship Qanon and see conspiracy connections everywhere won't help uncover it, they'll only work as obfuscation and a liability to law enforcement as they make rich and famous pedophiles cover up their deeds just to be safe, complicating legitimate investigations.

I feel like you're vastly overestimating Corbin's reasonableness.

 

[John Titor]

I don't think it's particularly fair to discredit the entirety of the Pizzagate theory without providing any reasons as to why it's unreasonable (or otherwise ignorant to the point where it's not even worth properly addressing). All I've seen here are people calling the believers "crazies" and "nut-cases" without really elaborating as to why. It almost seems like gaslighting.

I personally feel that the connections the investigation draws are reasonable, such as the odd paintings and artwork involving children as well as the odd logos that the businesses near Comet Ping Pong have since changed. Could someone at the very least explain these?

1. Actually read the thread, people have given reasonable explanations why it's horseshit.
2. I have no doubt that pedo rings exist; I need evidence that Pizzagate, as presented by /pol/, is one.
3. Those logos got changed in hopes that people would stopped harassing them.
4. This isn't the DaVinci Code or American Treasure, life is not an action movie with super secret codes leading to a super secret hideout. Pedo rings will use the most mundane ways to cover up their crimes.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

1. Actually read the thread, people have given reasonable explanations why it's horseshit.
2. I have no doubt that pedo rings exist; I need evidence that Pizzagate, as presented by /pol/, is one.
3. Those logos got changed in hopes that people would stopped harassing them.
4. This isn't the DaVinci Code or American Treasure, life is not an action movie with super secret codes leading to a super secret hideout. Pedo rings will use the most mundane ways to cover up their crimes.

In some cases yeah, Pizzagate contained many many ridiculous elements and people call them out. That's different from "Haha those idiots think there is a cabal of elites trafficking and raping children".

I'm not a pizzagate believer, however I think there's some reverse conspiracy-theory style reasoning going on here, as more pieces of the 'crazy conspiracy' turn out to be true people keep retreating to the yet-to-be disproven elements.

I'm saying at this point it seems awfully silly to just dismiss offhand all that shit, because hey guess what, there actually was a pedo island run by epstein. That used to be just more crazy conspiracy theory shit.

It's hilarious that @Senior Lexmechanic wants to paint me as a pizzagate true believer. I can disagree with bad logic without wholesale accepting the opposite side's claims. No, I don't believe in any satanic rituals or open symbols, but you know what? I'll look at the fucking evidence and not dismiss it offhand because again, Epstein Island was a crazy conspiracy theory only idiots believed in.

Finally, haha fuck you, talking about pizzagate in the pizzagate thread is very much on topic and no, just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I should start a separate topic. I see one dude desperately playing defense and I call it out, I'm not saying "You're one of them". You're some idiot on the internet trying to show he's smarter than everyone else while pushing his own viewpoints, just like the rest of us. The reasons for your desperate shilling are irrelevant and I'm almost certain nobody but you is responsible for you doing it.

 

[Terrorist]

In some cases yeah, Pizzagate contained many many ridiculous elements and people call them out. That's different from "Haha those idiots think there is a cabal of elites trafficking and raping children".

I'm not a pizzagate believer, however I think there's some reverse conspiracy-theory style reasoning going on here, as more pieces of the 'crazy conspiracy' turn out to be true people keep retreating to the yet-to-be disproven elements.

I'm saying at this point it seems awfully silly to just dismiss offhand all that shit, because hey guess what, there actually was a pedo island run by epstein. That used to be just more crazy conspiracy theory shit.

It's hilarious that @Senior Lexmechanic wants to paint me as a pizzagate true believer. I can disagree with bad logic without wholesale accepting the opposite side's claims. No, I don't believe in any satanic rituals or open symbols, but you know what? I'll look at the fucking evidence and not dismiss it offhand because again, Epstein Island was a crazy conspiracy theory only idiots believed in.

Finally, haha fuck you, talking about pizzagate in the pizzagate thread is very much on topic and no, just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I should start a separate topic. I see one dude desperately playing defense and I call it out, I'm not saying "You're one of them". You're some idiot on the internet trying to show he's smarter than everyone else while pushing his own viewpoints, just like the rest of us. The reasons for your desperate shilling are irrelevant and I'm almost certain nobody but you is responsible for you doing it.

Like many conspiracies, the gist of pizzagate ("elite pedophilia is rampant") is true, it's just the tabloid details that are wrong. Ever notice how there have been more news stories about pizzagate, this stupid and irrelevant fringe belief, than the epstein shit? Really activates your almonds...

 

[Feline Darkmage]

How are you not all supremely embarrassed now that the epstein shit is out? You morons were covering for him and podesta, and you still are, to pwn some mentally ill weirdos obsessed with a pizza shop.

Epstein was a known pedophile for like 2 decades. Pizzagate isn't about him, it's about satanic pedo orgies where Hillary Clinton eats the faces and souls of small children. Probably something about (((foreskins))) too, knowing the kind of crowd that's really into this shit.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Epstein was a known pedophile for like 2 decades. Pizzagate isn't about him, it's about satanic pedo orgies where Hillary Clinton eats the faces and souls of small children. Probably something about (((foreskins))) too, knowing the kind of crowd that's really into this shit.

Well, it's about a lot of things, that's the problem and feature of conspiracy theories.

Taking something that is an element of a conspiracy theory, like "elite pedo circle with human trafficking" and saying "lol that's pizzagate shit" is the issue I have.

It seems some things are being dismissed offhand in this thread because of attachment to pizzagate, rather than attacking the absurd elements on their own lack of merit. Quite smugly, in some cases.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Well, it's about a lot of things, that's the problem and feature of conspiracy theories.

Taking something that is an element of a conspiracy theory, like "elite pedo circle with human trafficking" and saying "lol that's pizzagate shit" is the issue I have.

It seems some things are being dismissed offhand in this thread because of attachment to pizzagate, rather than attacking the absurd elements on their own lack of merit. Quite smugly, in some cases.

You waded into this thread about making fun of Pizzagate and started swinging with "I bet you mongs are feeling STUPID for making fun of Pizzagate now that Epstein's in jail, Pizzagate's gonna be proven ANY DAY NOW and you're just a bunch of triggered libtards". For reference, here are your exact words:

So are you guys just gonna sit here jerking each other off about those zany conspiracy theorists while you carefully ignore the epstien podesta shit happening right out in the open now?

I predict in 2 years this threads devolves into "Well yeah, pretty much the whole thing was true, but those pictures of the kids being murdered was taken on a tuesday evening, not afternoon. HAHAHA BTFO conspiritards!"

How are you not all supremely embarrassed now that the epstein shit is out? You morons were covering for him and podesta, and you still are, to pwn some mentally ill weirdos obsessed with a pizza shop.

But yeah, it's all crazy right wing conspiracy theorists, there's definitely not a network of human trafficking and pedophiles. Except trump, though, he definitely was at epstein island (which is just a crazy conspiracy theory!) having sex with all the underage girls who don't exist except when he raped them.

@Senior Lexmechanic Are you a professional narrative designer or do you just do that for fun?

I get that the Washington Pedo Illuminati is your sacred cow that must never be questioned or treated with anything but the most grave and serious of tones, but do you even remember what site this is? This would be like going into the SJW thread and calling everyone problematic and misogynists.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

Well, it's about a lot of things, that's the problem and feature of conspiracy theories.

Taking something that is an element of a conspiracy theory, like "elite pedo circle with human trafficking" and saying "lol that's pizzagate shit" is the issue I have.

It seems some things are being dismissed offhand in this thread because of attachment to pizzagate, rather than attacking the absurd elements on their own lack of merit. Quite smugly, in some cases.

This is a thread about making fun of a community. It's okay if you are a part of this but don't think the idiots are the majority or if mocking the ones who are total spergs isn't a priority for you but this is kinda embarrassing yourself pal. It'd be like if I started going in the Reddit Tranny thread or something and started posting very smug "checkmate lib/conservatard" diatribes about how "actually the reddit circlejerk has a point. not that I post on there or anything bro and/or sis." or whatever it is you're attempting here.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

hot take: pizzagate was a false flag by (((them))) to distract the goyium from the actual child fuckers

 

[Trombonista]

hot take: pizzagate was a false flag by (((them))) to distract the goyium from the actual child fuckers

The Pizzagaters?

 

[TaimuRadiu]

The Pizzagaters?

You clearly know too much!

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

You waded into this thread about making fun of Pizzagate and started swinging with "I bet you mongs are feeling STUPID for making fun of Pizzagate now that Epstein's in jail, Pizzagate's gonna be proven ANY DAY NOW and you're just a bunch of triggered libtards". For reference, here are your exact words:

So are you guys just gonna sit here jerking each other off about those zany conspiracy theorists while you carefully ignore the epstien podesta shit happening right out in the open now?

I predict in 2 years this threads devolves into "Well yeah, pretty much the whole thing was true, but those pictures of the kids being murdered was taken on a tuesday evening, not afternoon. HAHAHA BTFO conspiritards!"

How are you not all supremely embarrassed now that the epstein shit is out? You morons were covering for him and podesta, and you still are, to pwn some mentally ill weirdos obsessed with a pizza shop.

But yeah, it's all crazy right wing conspiracy theorists, there's definitely not a network of human trafficking and pedophiles. Except trump, though, he definitely was at epstein island (which is just a crazy conspiracy theory!) having sex with all the underage girls who don't exist except when he raped them.

@Senior Lexmechanic Are you a professional narrative designer or do you just do that for fun?

I get that the Washington Pedo Illuminati is your sacred cow that must never be questioned or treated with anything but the most grave and serious of tones, but do you even remember what site this is? This would be like going into the SJW thread and calling everyone problematic and misogynists.

What's the Washington Pedo Illuminati? The Epstein people?

There was an implication. Your line here:

Suggests that Podesta has an ulterior motive for owning weird/creepy art. I don't think he owns it for any reason beyond "he likes the art" or possibly "the art acts as a symbol of his wealth and art savvy".
If all you're saying is that he's eccentric, I agree, but I think that way too many people fixate on his eccentricity and try to draw Dark Implications from it.

So are we still playing "Podesta just has lots of creepy erotic art of kids for completely innocent reasons" line, or is Podesta now a creep? More shit dismissed out of hand because "it's pizzagate shit". At a certain point obsessively declaring anything with a hint of a connection to a conspiracy theory you're obsessed with makes you the conspiracy theorist.

You've been following this pizzagate shit for years, the entire time saying "Nope, it's all lies" followed by "Well that was true but one(or two, or three, or 50) rich pedophiles in a network of child trafficking doesn't prove an elite child trafficking ring!".

At this point, yeah, there's an elite pedo ring. Yes, for sure, it exists. So call it my "sacred cow" or "epstien's blackmail docs" or "Exhibit C" all you want.

That was my point, you keep retreating to a smaller and smaller set of claims, until its gone from "There aren't a bunch of rich pedos protecting each other and trafficking children" to "OK OK there are a bunch of rich pedos protecting eachother and trafficking children, but the blood sacrifices were to Baal, not Moloch, stupid conspiritards!"

I'll continue embarrassing myself on the internet regardless, thank you very much. I'm not invested in my reputation for always being right, to the point where I have to go back and retroactively justify the times I was wrong. I work with current information and when more info comes to light I change my opinion if the new information warrants it. Many here are clearly deeply invested in "being right" and moving goalposts in service of that.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

What's the Washington Pedo Illuminati? The Epstein people?


So are we still playing "Podesta just has lots of creepy erotic art of kids for completely innocent reasons" line, or is Podesta now a creep? More shit dismissed out of hand because "it's pizzagate shit". At a certain point obsessively declaring anything with a hint of a connection to a conspiracy theory you're obsessed with makes you the conspiracy theorist.

You've been following this pizzagate shit for years, the entire time saying "Nope, it's all lies" followed by "Well that was true but one(or two, or three, or 50) rich pedophiles in a network of child trafficking doesn't prove an elite child trafficking ring!".

At this point, yeah, there's an elite pedo ring. Yes, for sure, it exists. So call it my "sacred cow" or "epstien's blackmail docs" or "Exhibit C" all you want.

That was my point, you keep retreating to a smaller and smaller set of claims, until its gone from "There aren't a bunch of rich pedos protecting each other and trafficking children" to "OK OK there are a bunch of rich pedos protecting eachother and trafficking children, but the blood sacrifices were to Baal, not Moloch, stupid conspiritards!"

I'll continue embarrassing myself on the internet regardless, thank you very much. I'm not invested in my reputation for always being right, to the point where I have to go back and retroactively justify the times I was wrong. I work with current information and when more info comes to light I change my opinion if the new information warrants it. Many here are clearly deeply invested in "being right" and moving goalposts in service of that.

I'm going to admit that Podesta is a pedophile when there is direct evidence of him molesting children or owning CP, just like I'm going to admit Trump is a pedophile when there's direct evidence of him molesting children or owning CP. Shouting "pedo!" at anyone who owns disturbing artwork is watering the term down.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

I'm going to admit that Podesta is a pedophile when there is direct evidence of him molesting children or owning CP, just like I'm going to admit Trump is a pedophile when there's direct evidence of him molesting children or owning CP. Shouting "pedo!" at anyone who owns disturbing artwork is watering the term down.

But saying "Owning artwork depicting naked children and victims of torture is fucked up, and along with other shit we've heard and seen, clearly bears looking into" isn't. If trump plastered the white house with artwork of naked children, yeah, we should probably shout "PEDO!" at him.

I mean, the position "Innocent until proven guilty" is reasonable, but that's different from "You're crazy to be at all suspicious of anyone not already convicted of the crime they appear to be guilty of". With that standard, nobody would ever be charged with any crime they didn't admit to.

If I end up on a jury, to convict Podesta of raping children, and the only evidence the prosecution has is that he owns weird fucking artwork, I'll vote not guilty. If I were a prosecutor trying to build a case, the fact that the dude owns weird fucking pedophilia artwork would mean I would be smart to look deeper.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

But saying "Owning artwork depicting naked children and victims of torture is fucked up, and along with other shit we've heard and seen, clearly bears looking into" isn't. If trump plastered the white house with artwork of naked children, yeah, we should probably shout "PEDO!" at him.

I mean, the position "Innocent until proven guilty" is reasonable, but that's different from "You're crazy to be at all suspicious of anyone not already convicted of the crime they appear to be guilty of". With that standard, nobody would ever be charged with any crime they didn't admit to.

If I end up on a jury, to convict Podesta of raping children, and the only evidence the prosecution has is that he owns weird fucking artwork, I'll vote not guilty. If I were a prosecutor trying to build a case, the fact that the dude owns weird fucking pedophilia artwork would mean I would be smart to look deeper.

I understand that you have a strong retributive instinct, but starting witch hunts for pedophiles and trying people in the court of public opinion doesn't work out well. At best, you intimidate pedophiles into becoming more covert in their activities. At worst, you water down the value of the accusation and get innocents hurt or killed.
Not to mention that the "other evidence" of Podesta being a pedophile are Pizzagate's "coded messages" and a claim that they personally abducted Madeline McCann. The argument then becomes tautological.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

I understand that you have a strong retributive instinct, but starting witch hunts for pedophiles and trying people in the court of public opinion doesn't work out well. At best, you intimidate pedophiles into becoming more covert in their activities. At worst, you water down the value of the accusation and get innocents hurt or killed.
Not to mention that the "other evidence" of Podesta being a pedophile are Pizzagate's "coded messages" and a claim that they personally abducted Madeline McCann. The argument then becomes tautological.

That's true, witch hunts and mob justice suck.

What's your point? Ignore any suspicious activity, don't worry, the authorities will look into it if it's serious, otherwise you're a witchhunter? If I were saying let's go attack podesta (And I am certainly NOT saying that, FBI dude!) you'd have a good point, but I'm not saying that. If you think my disagreement that any suspicion of podesta is ridiculous is going to lead to innocents being murdered or pedophiles hiding evidence then you have a much higher opinion of my importance than I do.

It'd be like if I started going in the Reddit Tranny thread or something and started posting very smug "checkmate lib/conservatard" diatribes about how "actually the reddit circlejerk has a point. not that I post on there or anything bro and/or sis." or whatever it is you're attempting here.

Hahaha, first off, you do exactly that sometimes. Second, imply away that I'm some pizzagater. Go for it. I'll keep making fun of you guys every time another thing comes to light as true that you've dismissed as a crazy conspiracy theory (well within reason, if it turns out Miley Cyrus is involved in world affairs I'll be pretty surprised myself). What I am "attempting" is contained in my posts, no need to guess, I spell it out pretty clearly. I'm interrupting your smug circlejerk by pointing out things you had dismissed as ridiculous that are now considered to be facts.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

What's your point? Ignore any suspicious activity, don't worry, the authorities will look into it if it's serious, otherwise you're a witchhunter? If I were saying let's go attack podesta (And I am certainly NOT saying that, FBI dude!) you'd have a good point, but I'm not saying that. If you think my disagreement that any suspicion of podesta is ridiculous is going to lead to innocents being murdered or pedophiles hiding evidence then you have a much higher opinion of my importance than I do.

I'm Catholic, Corbin. I don't believe one's behavior gains some special status as you rise or fall in social status. Sin is sin, regardless of who does it, and I believe it is sinful to speak ill of another unless you know what you say is true. It's clear you don't think that it is. That's your opinion. This is mine.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

I'm Catholic, Corbin. I don't believe one's behavior gains some special status as you rise or fall in social status. Sin is sin, regardless of who does it, and I believe it is sinful to speak ill of another unless you know what you say is true. It's clear you don't think that it is. That's your opinion. This is mine.

Well, then, you must think you're going to hell, because you talk all kinds of shit that you know isn't true.
So by your rules, no suspicion allowed. You either witness the murder or you ignore the bloodstains because you don't know that blood came from a crime.

OK then, retreat to the point of absolute unbreakable skepticism. Nobody ever did anything. OJ is an innocent victim of the public's racism. Investigations are sinful.

 

[Haramburger]

This is a thread about making fun of a community.

I think a lot of people come into the thread not realizing this, or it being at odds with their parallel desire for Marina Abramovic #spiritcooking dox.

 

[Fapcop]

If Epstein really was part of a secret elite pedo circle, and really had pedo blackmail on other bigwigs... Then why is he in jail? Why didn’t his pedo buddies work behind the scenes to drop the case?