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Thanks for your response, I know a lot more about that side of it now than I did before.
While this is mostly speculation, this makes me think maybe Mumkey had a thing for Jackie from the PCP days. Ben Saint breaks up with her and he builds up the potential relationship, even as he is going out with Sheepover. I say this as I think he always intended to break up with Sheepover for someone else, maybe Liu was his consolation prize after he "lost" any possible chance of getting with Jackie, especially as she stuck with Assburger and made it clear that he was her choice.
I believe that, well before any of this stuff was even close to happening, Mumkey said something along the lines of "There are plenty of people who want me now I'm famous on YouTube, but I went with the first person who contacted me", implying he had his eye on someone else, maybe someone specific (Jackie). I remember it 'cause it seemed like a really scummy thing to say, especially at the time, and came off as a moment of truth rather than as "joke" which didn't land.
This theory (or whatever you want to call it) would also go a way to explaining Mumkey's behaviour during the whole domestic incident saga. Although I wouldn't expect anyone to be on Assburger's side during that whole thing, especially as it was still unfolding, he was very quick to call the police against her wishes, put a private and ongoing story out in public (painting Assburger as a irredeemable monster), and overall being there more for the girlfriend of his "best friend" more than he was for Assburger who, despite everything, was now facing very serious charges and was in jail for it. His "I'm too tired" routine followed by jumping on Twitter to reveal more details could be him realising that the situation wasn't in his favour and it never would be - he would never achieve his goal of getting Jackie, who had stuck with Assburger despite everything, and wouldn't choose Mumkey even if she had decided to leave Assburger. He decided to burn them both as revenge for her not doing what he wanted, for going against his script.
I also find it odd that she knew about this supposed "sister fetish" he has. Was this something he told Assburger, and he shared it with Jackie? Or was it something he shared with Jackie in a misguided attempt to move their relationship to a sexual level? It is the reported finding because it is the weirdest and most damaging thing, but if it was Mumkey who shared this with her, then it probably was part of many sexual things he was sharing with her to get things moving in that direction. Someone like Tyler, an Incel until Sheepover, would probably see this as being a cunning stunt rather than the creepy and off-putting thing it actually was.
Further supporting evidence for this secret crush is Mumkey's supposed hatred of Assburger for getting women despite his fat, alcoholic nature. Was it women in general he hated him for getting, or one specific woman? A woman who Mumkey knew before Assburger, with Mumkey most likely being the one who helped them get in touch for that song?
It also goes with Mumkey's worldview of seeing fiction being a one-for-one reflection of reality. You can't get more cliche Hollywood than the long-term "Will they, won't they?" couple who got together after one left an abusive relationship and the other leaving a loveless romance - coming to be together despite all the odds. Heck, it's not even fiction, it's what he tried to have happen with Liu but we all know how that turned out.
I am sorry to hear that. When a community turns on someone for something untrue or undeserving of the reaction it is a horrible thing. It's why Mumkey labeling everyone as "haters" is so annoying and insulting - in this case the mob could have turned against him straight away, justified by his attempts to shield an admitted child-groomer and all the resulting collateral damage, but they didn't. A lot of people tried to help him out, a lot of people continue to do it even as he directly insults them. I've had groups of "friends" turn against me, harassing me, spreading lies all because I was the easier target than facing the truth, it was more convenient to ruin an innocent than it was to confront those actually to blame. I don't like Assburger, and he certainly isn't blameless, but I don't wish for him to be hounded by anyone, especially if Jackie is innocent in all this and gets swept up in it. But that is why I also am shaking my head that Assburger is directly involving himself in this again. It is understandable, probably unavoidable (as long as he is an online personality), but it is still inviting trouble for him and his girlfriend. Mumkey deserves a lot of hate and gets relatively little, and his die-hard fans will now probably start after him now for slandering their Internet god.
While this is mostly speculation, this makes me think maybe Mumkey had a thing for Jackie from the PCP days. Ben Saint breaks up with her and he builds up the potential relationship, even as he is going out with Sheepover. I say this as I think he always intended to break up with Sheepover for someone else, maybe Liu was his consolation prize after he "lost" any possible chance of getting with Jackie, especially as she stuck with Assburger and made it clear that he was her choice.
I believe that, well before any of this stuff was even close to happening, Mumkey said something along the lines of "There are plenty of people who want me now I'm famous on YouTube, but I went with the first person who contacted me", implying he had his eye on someone else, maybe someone specific (Jackie). I remember it 'cause it seemed like a really scummy thing to say, especially at the time, and came off as a moment of truth rather than as "joke" which didn't land.
This theory (or whatever you want to call it) would also go a way to explaining Mumkey's behaviour during the whole domestic incident saga. Although I wouldn't expect anyone to be on Assburger's side during that whole thing, especially as it was still unfolding, he was very quick to call the police against her wishes, put a private and ongoing story out in public (painting Assburger as a irredeemable monster), and overall being there more for the girlfriend of his "best friend" more than he was for Assburger who, despite everything, was now facing very serious charges and was in jail for it. His "I'm too tired" routine followed by jumping on Twitter to reveal more details could be him realising that the situation wasn't in his favour and it never would be - he would never achieve his goal of getting Jackie, who had stuck with Assburger despite everything, and wouldn't choose Mumkey even if she had decided to leave Assburger. He decided to burn them both as revenge for her not doing what he wanted, for going against his script.
I also find it odd that she knew about this supposed "sister fetish" he has. Was this something he told Assburger, and he shared it with Jackie? Or was it something he shared with Jackie in a misguided attempt to move their relationship to a sexual level? It is the reported finding because it is the weirdest and most damaging thing, but if it was Mumkey who shared this with her, then it probably was part of many sexual things he was sharing with her to get things moving in that direction. Someone like Tyler, an Incel until Sheepover, would probably see this as being a cunning stunt rather than the creepy and off-putting thing it actually was.
Further supporting evidence for this secret crush is Mumkey's supposed hatred of Assburger for getting women despite his fat, alcoholic nature. Was it women in general he hated him for getting, or one specific woman? A woman who Mumkey knew before Assburger, with Mumkey most likely being the one who helped them get in touch for that song?
It also goes with Mumkey's worldview of seeing fiction being a one-for-one reflection of reality. You can't get more cliche Hollywood than the long-term "Will they, won't they?" couple who got together after one left an abusive relationship and the other leaving a loveless romance - coming to be together despite all the odds. Heck, it's not even fiction, it's what he tried to have happen with Liu but we all know how that turned out.
I am sorry to hear that. When a community turns on someone for something untrue or undeserving of the reaction it is a horrible thing. It's why Mumkey labeling everyone as "haters" is so annoying and insulting - in this case the mob could have turned against him straight away, justified by his attempts to shield an admitted child-groomer and all the resulting collateral damage, but they didn't. A lot of people tried to help him out, a lot of people continue to do it even as he directly insults them. I've had groups of "friends" turn against me, harassing me, spreading lies all because I was the easier target than facing the truth, it was more convenient to ruin an innocent than it was to confront those actually to blame. I don't like Assburger, and he certainly isn't blameless, but I don't wish for him to be hounded by anyone, especially if Jackie is innocent in all this and gets swept up in it. But that is why I also am shaking my head that Assburger is directly involving himself in this again. It is understandable, probably unavoidable (as long as he is an online personality), but it is still inviting trouble for him and his girlfriend. Mumkey deserves a lot of hate and gets relatively little, and his die-hard fans will now probably start after him now for slandering their Internet god.
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