Disaster Jeffery Epstein has comitted suicide - Matt Groening got him

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Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is dead, law enforcement sources said Saturday.

A gurney carrying a man who looked like Epstein was wheeled out of the Manhattan Correctional Center around 7:30 a.m. The ambulance went to New York Downtown Hospital.
 
I want the TDS crowd to fully embrace pizza gate.
They're going to find out shit anyway just from Google and seeing it on Facebook. They're going to start with the part of the story that the media wants and then we'll see the normies start getting pulled down into various rabbit holes.

This is probably the end of Hillary 2020. :story:
 
There's a salt thread on /pol/. Basically everyone whose spent the past 3 years foaming at the mouth and screaming that the president is a Russian agent being blackmailed by "peepee tapes" are now decrying Trump for pushing "conspiracy theories"
It doesn't matter if the irony is lost on them, but I really hope that at least some of the general public will see this for what it is
 
Most people believe, if Kubrick WAS murdered, that it was Scientology that had Kubrick murdered.

There is nothing to rule this out, so it's a possibility, but it's false that it's what "most people believe". I've spent way too much time obsessively reading everything I can about this and it's a pretty rare assertion. Personally, I also don't see Cruise getting deeper into scientology after that, considering he had enough clout to seriously challenge what was essentially still an upstart niveau riche religion. But it's not to be ruled out either, it's definitely possible.


Fun fact about the above scene from Eyes Wide Shut (especially in relations to the film's reputation and the rumors that it got Kubrick killed).

KUBRICK NEVER WANTED IT IN THE FINAL CUT OF THE FILM

Kubrick always intended for the orgy scene to be a nightmarish dream-like episode and it being left 100% ambiguous as to what the fuck Cruise's character walked into.

The scene where the rich guy from the party at the start of the film schools Cruise and gets him to STFU and not ask questions, plus the newspaper announcing the woman's death, were added because Kubrick feared the orgy would create massive headaches from Warner Brother suits, if it wasn't explicitly spelled out to viewers. So he filmed those scenes in the youtube link to placate the studio executives, all the while plotting to cut them from the final print (and destroy said cut scenes, per his usual habit) days before it went out to theaters, knowing it would create a huge controversy and further drive sales for tickets to it.

Unfortunately, the studio found out about it before Kubrick's death when they were working on covering up the nudity/fucking in said orgy scene for the theatrical release. However, Kubrick died before he could oversee the removal of said scene so it remained in the picture.

You can't know that. There were only 4 other people who'd seen the cut that Kubrick had made. Two of those are Cruise and Kidman, and they don't just look sad, they look absolutely terrified in the interviews about his death. The others are Bob Daly and Terry Semel, who are both Warner Co-chairmen (they both simultaneously stepped down on the day of the premiere of the movie in a strange move).

I've read a lot of different rumors about what would and wouldn't be in the film. I think it's safe to say he wouldn't have digitally added people to hide some of the nudity as the american release. But whether he would have added the scenes with Cruise and Kidman in a boat on some sort of vacation? Whether there originally was a scene cut out where Cruise finds a room with an occult altar and surgical instruments at the house? Whether that scene that the screenwriter describes in the book as being essential would have been cut? There really is no way to tell.

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The following supposedly came from a first hand source, but not really confirmed either. There is a strange cut at the party and this would fit and would hang over the entire movie:

At 1:19:27 Dr. Harford finds himself separated from the masked woman. He walks down a hallway distantly following a couple. He turns to see an empty room with a pentagram-like circle in the center. The reaction in his eyes can be seen in a close up. Acting as if he did not see the ceremonial room he continues to walk down the hallway which can be seen at 1:19:30.

But as Kubrick was a living god of moviemaking and he had a contract where nobody else could make any changes on the cut of the movie and was allowed to film everything near his house in the UK instead of sensibly filming the New York scenes in New York.... I find it hard to believe he would ever film anything to placate the suits, nor do I find it believable that he would do so for the ticket sales.

So I don't think you could say what Kubrick wanted or not, because we don't have any proof of what he wanted or not.

As to your idea that the goal was to be nightmarish, the whole point of the first layer of the Traumnovelle story is that you wonder whether it's a dream or not and the same goes for eyes wide shut. Much like a good filmmaker would never show with certainty whether the spinning top at the end of inception would fall, Kubrick would never give certainty whether it's a dream or not, but instead craft a movie that balances so that it's an never-ending discussion whether it is or not.

What's more, Kubrick's suspicious death, if it was indeed murder, that would imply that there was someone with very very strong thoughts about what he was making. Why would someone have such strong thoughts about Kubrick wanting to make something fantastical? If you go down this line of thinking it has to imply that he talks about something real. It would make no sense to kill him and then make it more rooted in reality. You would go in the opposite direction. You'd want to make it more fantastical or more superficial. Remove clues of something deeper.

Which is pretty hard in eyes wide shut to begin with, because there is so much occult imagery in almost every scene and so many refferences to freemasons, the Windsor family (relevant to thread), Rothschilds, that you'd have to cut the entire movie to get rid of those.
 
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That's honestly one of the parts of this entire case that I think is going to be legitimately terrifying, both for the prosecutors and for any of the people involved who could honestly have been completely innocent. Just imagine being some dipshit, party-cruising elite and winding up at one of his parties, and for all you know some random woman at the party just takes a sudden interest in you and comes onto you as hard as they can. You head back to the room, have a wild night of it, and wake up in the morning to find out that she's 15 and Epstein has a video recording of you sleeping with a minor.

Trying to sort out who paid for Epstein's "services" and who was otherwise just an innocent idiot who got roped in unknowingly is going to be a nightmare. It could be argued that you'd have to be an absolute moron to go to one of Epstein's parties and not expect something of the sort happening, but there's no telling when and where he might have done it. He held parties all the time and sometimes with dozens and dozens of people in attendance, so all of the girls being instructed to target someone specific could have just blended into the crowd full of all of these other people who were just having a good time, for all they knew.

I think that there's a very real possibility that not all of the people on those tapes knew what they were getting into. I really don't envy the prosecutor's jobs on this case.
I'd ENVY it, they are given effective carte blanche to subpoena a fuck ton of records and the computers of wealthy elites just from that single video. Assuming they avoid a sudden case of suicide, they can probably topple quite a few people on charges unrelated to CP.
 
What the fuck are you sperging about? It's literally just a clarification of things for context.

If [Client Name] is too haram to write because it's not precisely accurate somehow, then write [Suspect Name] or [Epstein Affiliate Name] or any number of similar titles.
First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand.
 
There is really a lot of people who had a load to gain from his demise. It is technically possible he just killed himself, but... with so many people wanting his head, I am inclined to agree that it was most likely some form of politian offing him.

We had the britbong's mudsharking royals, ((((THEM!)))) and Democrats and lawyers discussed here and they all had very good reasons to off him. And that is what we know. Who knows what other people he had dirt on?

But yeah, this seems just soo obviously planned. Plus he was rich with lots of lawyers that could have kept stuff prolonged.
 
I think people are over-joyed the kid fucker is dead, but they would rather have him sing like a bird and take 20 other pedos with him.

It was like the apocalypse was finally happening, except instead of being scary horrible, it was going to be fucking awesome.
Locusts were swarming LA, earthquakes, yosemite about to fucking blow, Commiefornia was going to wind up in its rightful place at the bottom of the pacific, Epstein and the elite pedos were about to get rounded up. I was kind of hoping we'd bring back burning at the stake just for these bastards

Instead he offs himself, got a "time served" from the clintons, assassinated by one of his former clients, or wound up in witness protection. Either way, in 6 months this will barely be remembered by most and all his clients will live to see another day.


I wish I wish ..holy shit...

That's an interesting thought, doubt it. We don't get nice things.
Fucking amazing if someone does come out with that though. "Oh, btw, before he offed himself, he sang like a fucking bird. Had to keep it quiet to make sure nobody managed to skip town. We've rounded them up, a list of names will be published at 11 We'll start burning the motherfuckers alive after lunch. We'll be broadcasting on all major networks, and streaming on twitch, youtube, and dlive. "
 
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This is what makes me 100% believe everything is true. If Subway Jared, a fucking awful sandwich spokes person, was able to craft his own pedophile ring and have people cover for him then you best believe Clinton and Trump fuck and eat babies in their secret satanic temple on pedophile island.


Fun fact: Jared Fogle is Jewish too. Weird, huh?
 

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First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand.
Again, what the fuck are you sperging about?
 
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I'd bet that "honor among thieves" wouldn't really apply if everyone partaking in Epstein's services was somehow immediately publicly known as they'd barely hesitate in throwing each other in front of the incoming buses in an attempt to avoid prison.

Incoming busses aren't as dangerous when you are say Windsor family and drive with full trained escorts.
 
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