Disaster Jeffery Epstein has comitted suicide - Matt Groening got him

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Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is dead, law enforcement sources said Saturday.

A gurney carrying a man who looked like Epstein was wheeled out of the Manhattan Correctional Center around 7:30 a.m. The ambulance went to New York Downtown Hospital.
 
I don’t know why you’d be so autistic as to assume that only one of the two can be true, when it’s perfectly plausible that there’s some truth to both.
I'm not saying that at all. I just don't see any evidence to support the claim that he had Epstein kicked off.
Edwards also said that it is "obvious" Trump himself was not involved in any of Epstein's illicit activity.”
I'm not saying that he was involved, I'm saying that he knew what Epstein was and tolerated it until he started a beef with him.
As for “some guy writing a book”, that’s not the only source for Epstein getting kicked out of Trumps club. It was widely reported over a decade ago.

On September 27, 2007 — a few weeks before the New York Post reported that Epstein was banned from Mar-A-Lago

Lurk more and read more buddy. You seem to think that you know everything, because you read a couple of articles from The NY Times and CNN, but this is an old story with tons of research done years ago.
Dude I'm using them as a source because I don't want to go through a million pages of boring court documents. You don't see me running with the "Trump was Epstein's wingman" or the "Epstein introduced Melania and Trump" narratives.

Still, I don't see you linking to anything.
And all that research shows that Trump had nothing to do with Epstein being a pedo.
Guy, I'm not saying that Trump was raping children with Epstein. I'm saying that he knew that Jeff was a pedo and didn't care until he became an inconvenience.
As for whether their fallout was over a real estate deal, or because Epstein was a creep in Trumps club (as widely reported over a decade ago and again in 2016) in either case, that shows that Trump hasn’t been close to Epstein for many years, despite the exceptional attempts at linking them.
You're just being a triggered right-wing snowflake at this point because I'm not saying or implying that Trump was part of a pedo ring. Trump has had mafioso friends, hell his son-in-law is the son of a convicted criminal - that doesn't mean that I think that Orange Man is a child-raping Tony Soprano. I'm saying that Don has high tolerance for dirtbags.
 
Here's the PDF of his Little Black Book from the court documents. There's a few people boxed off and some marked a witnesses. Clinton's don't appear in it though.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html

I'm looking for the actual testimonies, I have only seen screen caps and articles in this thread. Do we have links to the actual documents? I could only find Virginia Giruffre's testimony.
http://images.politico.com/global/2015/02/03/edwardsdershaff1.pdf

The problem with the “little Black book” is this; How the F do we know if somebody listed is just a business acquaintance or possible partner, or a pedo buddy? UPS is also in there.

A man of Epstein’s intelligence would either have the pedo buddies just memorized, or possibly use a code of sorts.

You also have to be careful with testimonies from witnesses and victims. Yeah, some of them are genuine, some of them are nutcases or attracted by money.
 
The problem with the “little Black book” is this; How the F do we know if somebody listed is just a business acquaintance or possible partner, or a pedo buddy? UPS is also in there.

A man of Epstein’s intelligence would either have the pedo buddies just memorized, or possibly use a code of sorts.

You also have to be careful with testimonies from witnesses and victims. Yeah, some of them are genuine, some of them are nutcases or attracted by money.
I agree, I suspect that those that are marked with boxes are people of interest but this is why I was looking for the documents. I am highly skeptical of what is being quotes in the MSM about this, we can see how the Trump stuff is trying to be spun. Better to get the information from source.
 
This was always going to go one of two ways.

1.) Epstein becomes the fall guy, takes full blame and gets to serve his sentence in one of those really nice """prisons""" like the one Escobar had. Pretty much just glorified house arrest.

2.) He decides he's gonna take everyone down with him and will end up dead in his cell.

There was an article floating around about some former prisoner there explaining there was simply no way to kill yourself there. The cells are are small, there's no pipes or anything to tie stuff too, the bed sheets are nowhere near strong enough to support a person and he should have been in a straight jacket because he was on suicide watch.

So either the guards were bribed/threatened to turn a blind eye while someone did the dirty deed.
 
This was always going to go one of two ways.

1.) Epstein becomes the fall guy, takes full blame and gets to serve his sentence in one of those really nice """prisons""" like the one Escobar had. Pretty much just glorified house arrest.

2.) He decides he's gonna take everyone down with him and will end up dead in his cell.

There was an article floating around about some former prisoner there explaining there was simply no way to kill yourself there. The cells are are small, there's no pipes or anything to tie stuff too, the bed sheets are nowhere near strong enough to support a person and he should have been in a straight jacket because he was on suicide watch.

So either the guards were bribed/threatened to turn a blind eye while someone did the dirty deed.
Whoever was bribed will also wind up dead and not spend much of the money. They’re a risk and the Clinton’s know how to handle that shit.
 
Anyone have any idea how 'suicide watch' actually works? How strict is it, really? 24/7 monitoring? Multiple cameras? In-person surveillance? Surely it was multiple people's explicit job to make sure this couldn't happen.

How the fuck did this cunt find the time and space to kill himself?
Your question may have been answered and I missed it, apologies if that’s what happened.
From what I’ve read when prisoners are on suicide watch they get placed in a isolated padded cell, they’re either naked or given a heavy onesie (to prevent hanging by article of clothing,) their bed is a plastic mattress with no sheets (again to prevent hanging.)
They’re monitored 24/7 either by guard or camera. They stay in suicide watch until a psychiatrist deems them no longer a suicide threat.

That’s where I find this story suspect. Epstein was on suicide watch after his failed attempt and was taken off watch like, last week or something. I don’t necessarily believe he was killed, but he may have been allowed to kill himself on purpose.

Also, it’s odd that we have photos of Epstein’s face as he’s being wheeled out of jail to the hospital. Usually when someone commits suicide the body is covered as to not scare the public when you’re wheeling out a dead guy in Manhattan in the mourning. It’s almost as if people wanted the public to clearly see his corpse.
 
Guy, I'm not saying that Trump was raping children with Epstein. I'm saying that he knew that Jeff was a pedo and didn't care until he became an inconvenience.

And there is absolutely that indicates that. There’s zero evidence of this.

Trump and Epstein were part of the same NY/Palm Beach social circle, they weren’t even particularly close. Hundreds of people knew Epstein in the same way that Trump did, are you saying they were all in on it?

Your claim is even more exceptional, considering that Trump was one of the few people who volunteered for an interview with police and the lawyer suing Epstein.

Shit, even the lawyer representing Epstein’s teenage victim said that Trump had no involvement nor knew about Epstein’s kid diddling, but you think you know better because you read a NY Times article and never miss an episode of CSI or some shit like that.

You're just being a triggered right-wing snowflake at this point

I’m triggered alright, but only because I have a low tolerance for autism and nonsensical claims with no evidence.

Trump has had mafioso friends, hell his son-in-law is the son of a convicted criminal - that doesn't mean that I think that Orange Man is a child-raping Tony Soprano. I'm saying that Don has high tolerance for dirtbags.

What does any of that even have to do with anything?

Let me try to spell out just how retarded that argument is: “Trump’s son in law’s father did jail for some witness tampering, therefore Trump is ok with people diddling kids!”

Lolwut?!?
 
I'm not saying that at all. I just don't see any evidence to support the claim that he had Epstein kicked off.

I'm not saying that he was involved, I'm saying that he knew what Epstein was and tolerated it until he started a beef with him.

Dude I'm using them as a source because I don't want to go through a million pages of boring court documents. You don't see me running with the "Trump was Epstein's wingman" or the "Epstein introduced Melania and Trump" narratives.

Still, I don't see you linking to anything.

Guy, I'm not saying that Trump was raping children with Epstein. I'm saying that he knew that Jeff was a pedo and didn't care until he became an inconvenience.

You're just being a triggered right-wing snowflake at this point because I'm not saying or implying that Trump was part of a pedo ring. Trump has had mafioso friends, hell his son-in-law is the son of a convicted criminal - that doesn't mean that I think that Orange Man is a child-raping Tony Soprano. I'm saying that Don has high tolerance for dirtbags.

Hes triggered because every post of yours in this thread is so transparent. No one here thinks trump wasnt apart of a social circle that epstein was also in. Your just focused on only that small part of the circle. You dont think its odd that both Maxwell and epstein seem to have significant ties to mossad? You don't think its odd ehud Barak visited epstein?

Someone or some emtity was protecting both maxwell and epstein, someone with far more grease than even trump had at that time.
 
wouldn't know. I am assuming Epstein plan was to dominate echelons of society by having many of his bastard kids fill all the roles.

we ain't dealing with an illuminati. We dealing with bunch of folks related to each other which would explain a whole host of behaviors including the media covering for him

I thought I read somewhere that Epstein had varicocele sterility, and couldn't even create new Happy Merchants. Wish I could find the article again, so I could be certain if it was exceptional or extra exceptional.
 
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Trump and Epstein were part of the same NY/Palm Beach social circle, they weren’t even particularly close. Hundreds of people knew Epstein in the same way that Trump did, are you saying they were all in on it?
Yeah, pretty much. Everyone knew that Epstein was a child-fucker.
Shit, even the lawyer representing Epstein’s teenage victim said that Trump had no involvement nor knew about Epstein’s kid diddling, but you think you know better because you read a NY Times article and never miss an episode of CSI or some shit like that.
Epstein's lawyer admitted that Epstein was a serial kid-diddler? What a shit lawyer. I love how you don't cite any of the shit you say.
What does any of that even have to do with anything?
I literally spell it out for you, guy: he has high tolerance for scumbags.
 
Hes triggered because every post of yours in this thread is so transparent. No one here thinks trump wasnt apart of a social circle that epstein was also in. Your just focused on only that small part of the circle. You dont think its odd that both Maxwell and epstein seem to have significant ties to mossad? You don't think its odd ehud Barak visited epstein?
I was the first one in this thread to point out that Barak visited Epstein, faggot.

All the Jew jokes ITT and nobody posted the pics of the former PM of Israel entering Epstein's home.
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Also being an Israeli Partisan, an Israeli Spy and a Mossad agent aren't the same thing. If you want to talk about ze Jewish stuff, go make an effort post about Wexner (Epstein's primary source of income for a while) and his pro-Jewish and pro-Israeli activism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wexner_Foundation#Core_leadership_programs
 
So either the guards were bribed/threatened to turn a blind eye while someone did the dirty deed.

or it was an extraction operation and we saw a different corpse and he got slightly more room for his house arrest.

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huh I never knew about this history of Epstein. Looks like he had ties to intelligence going way back.

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I feel so bad for the victims. It must have taken so much courage to come forward and this is how they’re rewarded. First Epstein got an absolutely laughable slap on the wrist and when he finally got brought to court again he died before he could face any consequences for his actions.

I hope they’ll still stand strong and focus their attention on calling out other perpetrators.
 
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