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I always chuckle when a tranny says “you can’t tell the difference between a natural vagina and a cosmetic one”. I just want to ask them if they’ve ever seen a vagina before but I know therein lies the problem for why they went tranny.

Then I think about those cosmetic surgery horror stories trannies post and I want to ask doctors what the fuck are they thinking?

I posted this in the Contrapoints thread, it's actually relevant to post here: Link to a scientific study on the reality of MtF "neovaginas"

On average 8.6 species were cultured per woman. The species most often found were: Staphylococcus epidermidis, Streptococcus anginosus group spp., Enterococcus faecalis, Corynebacterium sp., Mobiluncus curtisii and Bacteroides ureolyticus. Lactobacilli were found in only one of 30 women.

There was no correlation between dilatation habits, having coitus, rinsing habits and malodorous vaginal discharge on the one hand and the presence of a particular species on the other. There was however a highly significant correlation between the presence of E. faecalis on the one hand and sexual orientation and coitus on the other (p = 0.003 and p = 0.027 respectively).


To essentially summarize the report findings, they studied the microflora present in several dozen transwomen's neovaginas and found that it was consistent with the sort of bacteria you would typically find festering in necrotic wounds as well as in the digestive tract. What *wasn't* present was the microflora present in healthy, real ("natal") women's vaginas. Real vaginas (at least when they're in a healthy state) have primarily just lactobacilli present, and the natural physiological processes of this particular bacteria produces some amount of hydrogen peroxide that consequently keeps the organ free from other forms of harmful bacteria as well as at a stable, healthy pH level -- the organ is essentially "self-cleaning". When you instead have stuff like e. faecalis present (which btw, is named for the fecal matter it's normally found present in), you end up with a disgusting smelling ("malodorous", to use the technical medical term) situation that is to be expected when an unnatural body cavity has been made and isn't allowed to heal.

Vaginas aren't "just a hole", they're actually a collapsed space surrounded by muscle that, besides also being connected to a bunch of other reproductive organs than transwomen lack, have an extremely physiologically-important microflora balance that can't be replicated by surgery. It's just ignorant to make the claim that SRS comes anywhere near close to replicating the real deal. And this is before getting into the whole aspects of SRS causing nerve damage, a lack of sensation (or constant pain), not to mention a common side effect of SRS is never being able to orgasm again. And then there's other horrors associated with alternative techniques for surgery that involves using part of the digestive tract to create the neovaginal lining: doing so results in a hole that is constantly "weeping" a gross mucous discharge (which, needless to say is obviously not at all comparable to real vaginal secretions, despite deluded troons claiming otherwise).

It's surprising to me that people with a background in healthcare are willing to mutilate their patients in this way -- I guess the whole 'do no harm' part of the hippocratic oath is overlooked by these sorts of surgeons. If someone is absolutely deadset on living as a transwomen, they really ought to reconsider going ahead with bottom surgery, as the modern methods are not only poor aesthetic imitations of the real thing, but are quite literally physically unhealthy and disfiguring.
 
No. Cis in terms of troonspeak applies only to gender. CisGender = matching the gender you were born with. Hence strait people are Cishets. So Cis Gay is you're comfortable in your assigned at birth gender but are attracted to the opposite sex. Cis does not deal with sexuality.
Ah ah ah, "attracted to the opposite sex" is transphobic and/or fetishistic.

Proper newspeak is "same-gender attracted." Because people are attracted to stated identities, and not material reality.

Along those lines, I wish I could remember where I saw the goddamn stupidest example of this logic I've ever come across. It was a properly Woke lesbian saying that receiving dick picks was always complicated because she didn't know whether to be appalled or attracted until she learned whether the person sending said photo identified as a man or enby/woman.
 
I haven't seen this as much as the other way around (straight beta males claiming they're lesbians). Is this a thing that's gaining momentum? The hilarious thing is how the FTM's are still usually meek and at worst, whinging, and Troons are aggressive and hostile.

It's almost like they're special gender identity is elephant-shit and they just want to larp their sexual fantasies
There's been a few posts in this thread and elsewhere from Tumblr and Reddit involving the FTMs. They're not as violent or as forceful as the MTFs but they are just as batshit and homophobic.
 
Part of the fantasy is forcing themselves on women and forcing women to do things they don't want to do.
And they easily get away with it because even normies believe lesbians are awful man hating harpies so they don't care what happens to them. The OG "fuck me or you're a bigot" folks were actually bisexual women. Lots and lots of part-time/fake bi women also want that sweet sweet lesbian validation but lesbians don't want to be some stupid bitches experiment anymore than they want to validate a dick in a dress. Which is met with "You just hate men so much you won't date anyone who has ever touched one!" when in reality no, the response is usually "You don't think same sex realtionships are real and you're just going to fuck off in five seconds because lesbians are just a fetish off your bucket list to you". So what do they do? That's right, they identify as lesbians and then yell at real lesbians about thier "identity". If lesbians won't listen, you can always get your boyfriend involved.

Go to the TERF thread to see this in action. Every second post is railing on those "man hating lesbian harpies" when in reality, 90% of the psychos on r/gc are straight women who've had bad experiences with men. Even normies think if you don't want to fuck a penis, it means you hate men. Lesbians literally don't care enough about what men are up to get this fucking ragey about them. Not to be a sperg, but people really do not like lesbians in general.
Ah ah ah, "attracted to the opposite sex" is transphobic and/or fetishistic.

Proper newspeak is "same-gender attracted." Because people are attracted to stated identities, and not material reality.

Along those lines, I wish I could remember where I saw the goddamn stupidest example of this logic I've ever come across. It was a properly Woke lesbian saying that receiving dick picks was always complicated because she didn't know whether to be appalled or attracted until she learned whether the person sending said photo identified as a man or enby/woman.
Honestly, at this point, I need to see someone actually engaged in homosexual sex to believe they are actually a lesbian. Everyone and their dog "identifies" as a lesbian these days and runs around barking about what lesbians should and shouldn't do. I mean, was it a lesbian? Or a "lesbian"?
 
I posted this in the Contrapoints thread, it's actually relevant to post here: Link to a scientific study on the reality of MtF "neovaginas"



To essentially summarize the report findings, they studied the microflora present in several dozen transwomen's neovaginas and found that it was consistent with the sort of bacteria you would typically find festering in necrotic wounds as well as in the digestive tract. What *wasn't* present was the microflora present in healthy, real ("natal") women's vaginas. Real vaginas (at least when they're in a healthy state) have primarily just lactobacilli present, and the natural physiological processes of this particular bacteria produces some amount of hydrogen peroxide that consequently keeps the organ free from other forms of harmful bacteria as well as at a stable, healthy pH level -- the organ is essentially "self-cleaning". When you instead have stuff like e. faecalis present (which btw, is named for the fecal matter it's normally found present in), you end up with a disgusting smelling ("malodorous", to use the technical medical term) situation that is to be expected when an unnatural body cavity has been made and isn't allowed to heal.

Vaginas aren't "just a hole", they're actually a collapsed space surrounded by muscle that, besides also being connected to a bunch of other reproductive organs than transwomen lack, have an extremely physiologically-important microflora balance that can't be replicated by surgery. It's just ignorant to make the claim that SRS comes anywhere near close to replicating the real deal. And this is before getting into the whole aspects of SRS causing nerve damage, a lack of sensation (or constant pain), not to mention a common side effect of SRS is never being able to orgasm again. And then there's other horrors associated with alternative techniques for surgery that involves using part of the digestive tract to create the neovaginal lining: doing so results in a hole that is constantly "weeping" a gross mucous discharge (which, needless to say is obviously not at all comparable to real vaginal secretions, despite deluded troons claiming otherwise).

It's surprising to me that people with a background in healthcare are willing to mutilate their patients in this way -- I guess the whole 'do no harm' part of the hippocratic oath is overlooked by these sorts of surgeons. If someone is absolutely deadset on living as a transwomen, they really ought to reconsider going ahead with bottom surgery, as the modern methods are not only poor aesthetic imitations of the real thing, but are quite literally physically unhealthy and disfiguring.
Holy shit, not even Nurgle would be able to create such a horrid abomination. Can we start offering them euthanasia? I mean, they would end up dead anyways so why not make the process painless?
And they easily get away with it because even normies believe lesbians are awful man hating harpies so they don't care what happens to them. The OG "fuck me or you're a bigot" folks were actually bisexual women. Lots and lots of part-time/fake bi women also want that sweet sweet lesbian validation but lesbians don't want to be some stupid bitches experiment anymore than they want to validate a dick in a dress. Which is met with "You just hate men so much you won't date anyone who has ever touched one!" when in reality no, the response is usually "You don't think same sex realtionships are real and you're just going to fuck off in five seconds because lesbians are just a fetish off your bucket list to you". So what do they do? That's right, they identify as lesbians and then yell at real lesbians about thier "identity". If lesbians won't listen, you can always get your boyfriend involved.
Very enlightening. Finally i kinda understand why my lesbian friend is always down on her luck constantly fantasizing but never engaging in a relationship and when she does it barely lasts 2 months and she ends up almost suicidal. Also the whole war between lesbians and bi people that i've occassionaly saw on twitter.

It's fucking awful that people only see you as a fetish or a validation token.
 
I posted this in the Contrapoints thread, it's actually relevant to post here: Link to a scientific study on the reality of MtF "neovaginas"



To essentially summarize the report findings, they studied the microflora present in several dozen transwomen's neovaginas and found that it was consistent with the sort of bacteria you would typically find festering in necrotic wounds as well as in the digestive tract. What *wasn't* present was the microflora present in healthy, real ("natal") women's vaginas. Real vaginas (at least when they're in a healthy state) have primarily just lactobacilli present, and the natural physiological processes of this particular bacteria produces some amount of hydrogen peroxide that consequently keeps the organ free from other forms of harmful bacteria as well as at a stable, healthy pH level -- the organ is essentially "self-cleaning". When you instead have stuff like e. faecalis present (which btw, is named for the fecal matter it's normally found present in), you end up with a disgusting smelling ("malodorous", to use the technical medical term) situation that is to be expected when an unnatural body cavity has been made and isn't allowed to heal.

Vaginas aren't "just a hole", they're actually a collapsed space surrounded by muscle that, besides also being connected to a bunch of other reproductive organs than transwomen lack, have an extremely physiologically-important microflora balance that can't be replicated by surgery. It's just ignorant to make the claim that SRS comes anywhere near close to replicating the real deal. And this is before getting into the whole aspects of SRS causing nerve damage, a lack of sensation (or constant pain), not to mention a common side effect of SRS is never being able to orgasm again. And then there's other horrors associated with alternative techniques for surgery that involves using part of the digestive tract to create the neovaginal lining: doing so results in a hole that is constantly "weeping" a gross mucous discharge (which, needless to say is obviously not at all comparable to real vaginal secretions, despite deluded troons claiming otherwise).

It's surprising to me that people with a background in healthcare are willing to mutilate their patients in this way -- I guess the whole 'do no harm' part of the hippocratic oath is overlooked by these sorts of surgeons. If someone is absolutely deadset on living as a transwomen, they really ought to reconsider going ahead with bottom surgery, as the modern methods are not only poor aesthetic imitations of the real thing, but are quite literally physically unhealthy and disfiguring.
So you're telling me there's a difference between a vagina and cut-off prick
 
Holy shit, not even Nurgle would be able to create such a horrid abomination. Can we start offering them euthanasia? I mean, they would end up dead anyways so why not make the process painless?

Very enlightening. Finally i kinda understand why my lesbian friend is always down on her luck constantly fantasizing but never engaging in a relationship and when she does it barely lasts 2 months and she ends up almost suicidal. Also the whole war between lesbians and bi people that i've occassionaly saw on twitter.

It's fucking awful that people only see you as a fetish or a validation token.
Absolutely. I feel bad for real bi women and real lesbians simultaneously. There is a crazy number of fake idiots out here that make both groups look like shit and the real people are way outnumbered by the idiots. It's at the point where if you want to date you have to ask for at least three references.
 
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These clowns are on the brink of an epiphany as to why nobody ‘genders’ them correctly - because people can identify their natal, immutable sex characteristics. He’s a cock in a frock.

LOL, how is he this dense? He is legit arguing for people to assume his gender based off gender stereotyping:story:

I wonder how this guy would respond is someone asked him, "Are you saying men can't wear makeup or dresses without being transender? Or that women can't have facial hair without being transgerder?"
 
Absolutely. I feel bad for real bi women and real lesbians simultaneously. There is a crazy number of fake idiots out here that make both groups look like shit and the real people are way outnumbered by the idiots. It's at the point where if you want to date you have to ask for at least three references.

The internet is making me really mistrust bi people and I never did before (wouldn't date them, but I was cool with bi women). I've never been one of those lesbians who felt like that before. I am now. Even if I had been open to the thought of dating a bisexual woman, there is no way on earth I'd go near one now after years of reading online about my fucking monosexual privilege. What its like to exist online as a lesbian is to either be a fetish for a proportion of some straight men, chased down as a potential TERF if you will publicly declare you won't date troons/don't like dicks, attacked for your 'privilege'. There is nothing the TQ will not let you have for yourself.
 
Speaking of lesbians, and Troons appropriating the shit out of everything; estrogen dick is way different than testosterone dick! One is totally lesbian and not male at all.

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Excuse me while I vomit up my shashlik

Someone should start a world-wildlife type of foundation where decent people can "sponsor a lesbian for just 32 cents a day", and I'd hope the proceeds go to them building a troon-proof fortress. Though I know now that any piece of land, no matter how small, no matter how much they are not wanted; troons will camp outside the walls and demand to be let in.

..so in that way we'd have to crowdfund for mounted fucking canons and shit, maybe a moat with mutant sharks. A speaker, constantly piping out invalidating comments perhaps?
 
The internet is making me really mistrust bi people and I never did before (wouldn't date them, but I was cool with bi women). I've never been one of those lesbians who felt like that before. I am now. Even if I had been open to the thought of dating a bisexual woman, there is no way on earth I'd go near one now after years of reading online about my fucking monosexual privilege. What its like to exist online as a lesbian is to either be a fetish for a proportion of some straight men, chased down as a potential TERF if you will publicly declare you won't date troons/don't like dicks, attacked for your 'privilege'. There is nothing the TQ will not let you have for yourself.
You guys need to go outside more often.
 
Though I know now that any piece of land, no matter how small, no matter how much they are not wanted; troons will camp outside the walls and demand to be let in.

..
With pitchforks too, I assume, because this is literally what they did to the Michigan Women's Festival.
You guys need to go outside more often.
It's adorable the way you think this isn't happening in real life. Super cute.
 
so in that way we'd have to crowdfund for mounted fucking canons and shit, maybe a moat with mutant sharks. A speaker, constantly piping out invalidating comments perhaps?
Just put a basic biology book at the door and they will be horrified to get close.

But tbh i would be up to finance an Outer Heaven for forlorn and pariahs with hard admission standards in order to separate the wheat from the chaff.
It's adorable the way you think this isn't happening in real life
We all know that internet behaviour eventually bleeds into real life. It's kinda why lolcows exist in the first place to begin with: they cannot separate their spergery online from real life. The thing is that way too many people do this shit but they manage to set it in a small part of their lives rather than being the centre of their lives like furries or bronies do.
 
Just put a basic biology book at the door and they will be horrified to get close.

But tbh i would be up to finance an Outer Heaven for forlorn and pariahs with hard admission standards in order to separate the wheat from the chaff.

We all know that internet behaviour eventually bleeds into real life. It's kinda why lolcows exist in the first place to begin with: they cannot separate their spergery online from real life. The thing is that way too many people do this shit but they manage to set it in a small part of their lives rather than being the centre of their lives like furries or bronies do.
I know that and you know that but people still seem to make comments like, "Just go outside" as if that is going to make the issue go away or something. Outside you risk a Yaniv taking you to a real life tribunal asking a judge to make you give them your life savings or a MA'AM will threaten your life if you try to date a real life woman. You should see what they've done to pride events or literally any dating app/event.
 
Speaking of lesbians, and Troons appropriating the shit out of everything; estrogen dick is way different than testosterone dick! One is totally lesbian and not male at all.

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do these people hear themselves when they speak? It's a cock You can paste PVA glue on it and dip it in pink glitter before you tie a little ribbon around it - it is still a cock. I'm not even sorry you have issues with your perceptions of yourselves any more, because I think about 80% of the men who say this are manipulative degenerates anyway.

It's adorable the way you think this isn't happening in real life. Super cute.

I know several women who have been thrown out of their LGBT societies at university/colleges in both the UK and US. I won't speak out at mine. It's just easier to stay quiet. Other women I know lie and say they're non binary/asexual because they're that frightened of the TERF tag. I wish it was just a bunch of weirdos online.
 
Just put a basic biology book at the door and they will be horrified to get close.

I think that might attract troons though. The ones that fancy themselves supreme intellectuals, and they'll come back over and over again with their 1,000 page manifestos on what real biology is, and how the biology textbook is totally wrong and outdated. 6 sexes, and multiple karotypes! Intersex conditions, scientifically proven brain scans!

I'm on board if the biology book is rigged to spray a cloud of nerve gas or something
 
I know several women who have been thrown out of their LGBT societies at university/colleges in both the UK and US. I won't speak out at mine. It's just easier to stay quiet. Other women I know lie and say they're non binary/asexual because they're that frightened of the TERF tag. I wish it was just a bunch of weirdos online.
This kind of shit really makes me feel for gay dudes and lesbians who just want to be with other homosexual people in peace instead of focusing on the issues of some fucked up sexual deviants. At this point in time the only rational decision if you want to support gays and lesbians is to support TERFs and help them purge the movement. Bad thing is that some of the are also quite fucking deranged. I understand the man hating but for fuck's sake... At least accept the help when someone offers it. And i will not even go "not all men" because most male feminists end up being sexual predators anyways, but there is still sane people who want to stop the troon menace.
I think that might attract troons though. The ones that fancy themselves supreme intellectuals, and they'll come back over and over again with their 1,000 page manifestos on what real biology is, and how the biology textbook is totally wrong and outdated. 6 sexes, and multiple karotypes! Intersex conditions, scientifically proven brain scans!

I'm on board if the biology book is rigged to spray a cloud of nerve gas or something
I know some troons are autistic but i never expected them to be that autistic. Maybe you will have to put a bouncer at the door, preferably safe behind a sturdy metal bars, that says "Mister" every time a troon steps in so they either chimp out or leave in tears.
 
This kind of shit really makes me feel for gay dudes and lesbians who just want to be with other homosexual people in peace instead of focusing on the issues of some fucked up sexual deviants. At this point in time the only rational decision if you want to support gays and lesbians is to support TERFs and help them purge the movement. Bad thing is that some of the are also quite fucking deranged. I understand the man hating but for fuck's sake... At least accept the help when someone offers it. And i will not even go "not all men" because most male feminists end up being sexual predators anyways, but there is still sane people who want to stop the troon menace.

I know some troons are autistic but i never expected them to be that autistic. Maybe you will have to put a bouncer at the door, preferably safe behind a sturdy metal bars, that says "Mister" every time a troon steps in so they either chimp out or leave in tears.
Never underestimate the autism of troons. They are industrial grade, concentrated, weaponized autism. If there was some way to condense thier autism into a bomb, whichever country managed the feat would rule the world.
 
>how different estrogen dicks and testosterone dicks really are

how the hell could they be different? the troon dong will probably be limp and flabby because the hormones killed his ability to get it up, but other than that it's literally the exact same organ

These people are absolutely insane when it comes to their girldicks and boiclits.

I remember reading about a FTM who called her clitoris a “dick” and couldn’t help but wonder how her partner would react when going down on her, and she lets out a “Oh yeah, suck my dick!”

Somebody must have reacted by just laughing out loud (undoubtedly triggering their dysphoria!!) or by stopping the act and going “Suck your WHAT?!”
 
I know several women who have been thrown out of their LGBT societies at university/colleges in both the UK and US. I won't speak out at mine. It's just easier to stay quiet. Other women I know lie and say they're non binary/asexual because they're that frightened of the TERF tag. I wish it was just a bunch of weirdos online.
Being able to latch onto the gays and lesbians is the greatest trick the Tranners have or will ever pull. I know a lot of gays are starting to realize what a fucking Trojan horse job it was, but for the most part all LGBT communities are now under the control of their local alpha Troon who is the best at pushing the narrative in new and absurd directions.
 
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