Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Duke-Diggler]

R Bruce Elliott (voice of Captain Ginyu and Whitebeard) gave his thoughts on this matter
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So, he claims that "nice guys" can turn mean at the drop of the hat, but he won't say the same with "nice girls" that he was "close friends" with? This really does sound like selective reasoning which only signifies his utter blindness to reality.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

So, he claims that "nice guys" can turn mean at the drop of the hat, but he won't say the same with "nice girls" that he was "close friends" with?

Looks like someone didn't watch Mean Girls.

 

[RodgerDodger]

DMC fans would absolutely boycott if Langdon didn't return as Dante.
Hell I avoided getting the PC version of Tales of Symphonia because they changed the voices.
Gamers are petty babies who don't like change and get attached to things quickly. I can't say much about anime but people take VAs in games pretty seriously.

/sigh, No! I'm sorry but Gamers have an overinflated sense of how other Gamers will react to various "unpardonable sins" committed by the gaming publishers. Nobody cares who is voicing Dante save a very very small percentage of vocal but fiscally meaningless devout fans. Trust me this is core to EA and Activisions Business Models. If gamers actually gave a shit about such details and took it out on the publishers via their wallets things would change. But they don't. Because Gamers are fucking lemmings.

Actually thats not quite true. Gamers will punish publishers and studios when they make a shitty game, or in some way treat a broad swath of gamers badly. But picky little details like VA's? There isn't a measurable percentage of gamers that even give a shit about the Voice Acting in the games. Do you remember when the VA's went on strike from video games in order to demand a percentage of the gross and residuals. Not just the publishers but even the gamers pretty effectively told them to fuck off. Because Voice Acting in Videos Games is NOT a core to the product. It is at best a Value Add. Something that can help elevate an already good experience, but really brings nothing to the bottom line regarding the game. For anything save the most immersive story based games I would daresay the vast majority of gamers ignore if not outright mute the Voice Acting. "Press B to skip Cutscene". DMC is quite possibly the worst example to use as an example of Gamers giving a shit about such petty details as the characters VA. They bloody changed everything about the character, the Gamers hated it and complained endlessly. They still bought the fucking thing. There is not one single Voice Actor in Video Gaming who's replacement would cost more than a handful of sales. They are just THAT Irrelevant to the product.

Yuri's Spider-Man isn't iconic, Spider-man is iconic. Yuri's voice isn't particularly distinct - if I was told someone was voiced by Yuri I might go "oh yeah, I can kinda hear that it's probably him yeah" but it's not something I'd notice just by hearing. I would not count Yuri as a public figure at all, honestly. He would have to be incredibly recognizable above and beyond most voice actors to manage something like that, and usually only if they've also done live-action acting like Tim Curry or Mark Hamill.

Hell, even @Hallstein995 's example of SpongeBob would be closer, since Tom Kenny's voice is really distinct and easily recognizable.

Not even being in a famous thing guarantees public figure. Here's a good example - do you know who played R2D2 in the original Star Wars movies? Do you think you could pick him out in a crowd on the street?

And even if an actors voice is iconic as the voice of that character. It does not mean irreplaceable. The best example of this is perhaps the all time greatest English Language VA. Mel Blanc. We all know that vest hordes of characters he voiced over the years. He was the voice of Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck. All of the Loony Toons. Elmer Fudd and Porky Pig. All of them. But the characters did not fade when Mel passed away. The roles were recast and people grew used to them. Do you have any idea how many voices Charlie Brown and Lucy have had? Of the modern American Voice actors for well known American animation there are a few that truly stand out, such as Kevin Conroy's Batman or Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime. These are the truly best! The defining voices for the characters. Impossible to replace! But they both were, to minimal fan comment and no real impact on overall sales or profit of the given product. Unlike live performances be it stage,movie or tv, animation Voice Actors are not the core product that the public is coming to see. They are coming to see the cartoons. The voices are just in service to the animation. Yes the product is improved by certain standards of quality in the Voice Acting. But nobody is going to watch that animated offering because of any VA. (or rather a very very small number of extreme autists who are not significant enough to impact sales in most cases.) People go to Toy Story Movies to see Woody and Buzz, not Tom Hanks and Tim Allen. In animation the actor is a minimal element of the characters presentation whereas in live action they are the entirety of it.

I'm pretty sure most people could and would pretty easily pick Kenny Baker out in a crowd. Even without knowing for sure he was R2D2. He kind of stands out... or rather the opposite of "stands" out. He'd probably stand out even more in a crowd these days, given that he's dead. I mean you don't see many of those 1/3 scale zombies roaming around.

 

[FailedStudentOfTheKarmaSu]

This is such a shitty filler ark. It's like the first twenty episodes were written by Gen Urobuchi or Dai Sato, but they had one of those "health breaks" that the Japanese love so much and it was taken over by Sho Aikawa. He's such a hack. Every time he takes over a project he just covers old ground worse than it was originally covered, and anything he does ad has no value.

The TCPA ruling can't happen fast enough

 

[Dynamite Ninja]

R Bruce Elliott (voice of Captain Ginyu and Whitebeard) gave his thoughts on this matter
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The sad thing is that at one point, I actually imagined myself meeting all these VAs and talking with them. I guess that’ll never happen now

 

['Tis Dolan]

Yes, I am. Both are iconic characters in video games, and Spiderman is a lot bigger than just Lowenthals performance. As for Ben 10, it was popular for it's time but it doesn't have the cultural significance of Spongebob.

Yuri is one of the most recognizable voices in voice acting, and he's in a lot of things

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

R Bruce Elliott (voice of Captain Ginyu and Whitebeard) gave his thoughts on this matter
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"Vic did the things that Monica and Jamie say they did - period."

Which thing? Monica has like three different stories with varying changes to them. Jamie didn't even now what he said in her ear, but for some reason she knows it's sexual.

And how would you say that Monica and Jamie can't make up lies and over-exaggerate, and then say we all have multiple facets in our lives? What the fuck?

How do you tell us to "think" and then write this garbage post? We've been "thinking" for several months now.

 

[Son of Sparda 84]

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How has this guy not have his own thread yet? Has he been doxxed yet too?

 

[troondetector]

Settling with the Defendant's "may" yield an apology statement/article/video. However, I can almost guarantee that with the Defendant's actions demonstrated thus far, they will demand that a wide-ranging NDA be put in place to minimize the damage towards them, and they will not make that apology statement/article/video until there is one. There will most likely be other ridiculous demands made towards the Plaintiff during the settlement, and then once it's all settled, it could very well come out looking more favorable for the Defendant's.

You are completely right on this IMO. Remember Brad Wardell. For the woke retards, him getting an apology from the slunt who sued him was somehow more evidence that he was guilty and he was just using the court to revictimize her or some bullshit.

A significant portion of the people (not all, not even a majority, but enough to form a base) will maintain that Vic is an evil rapist even if they were faced with incontrovertible proof that this whole thing is bullshit. The woke do not have the capacity for any semblance of rational decision making on this topic.

Either settle with no NDA for good $, or take it to trial IMO, but that all depends on his finances and how long the GFM can fund the suit (if it passes TCPA, which I think for Rial it will). I do suspect if he passes TCPA the GFM might see more donations.

 

[Hallstein995]

The sad thing is that at one point, I actually imagined myself meeting all these VAs and talking with them. I guess that’ll never happen now

I'm just happy Paul St. Peter hasn't tried to weigh in on this. If he's ever at a Con near you, you should go. I've never been to a more wholesome 18+ panel in my life.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

You're both wrong and arguing something irrelevant. People don't like when well known VAs are swapped, and by 'well known' I mean 'this is the voice I'm used to'.

Case in point, some Pokéfags are still pissed the 4KIDS voice-actors haven't been playing their characters since 2006--but Maddie Blaustein had died two years afterward, so Meowth and other characters were inevitably going to be replaced (but people shrug off death more easily than expired/terminated contracts). I also know of Digimon fans who got pissy the original seiyuu, due to time constraints or retirement, couldn't return to be the human characters for tri (then Yuuko Mizutani passed away a couple years later, so...), and there were also going to be dub fans who would've thrown a fit had Joshua Seth not returned to be Tai. Granted, the dub could only get back half the actors because unions, but the fans were just happy to get Joshua and Tom Fahn back as Tai and Agumon. (Although now that Vic played Matt for tri and there's a new Digimon movie on the horizon, some are of course screaming for his replacement.)

I get consistency, I really do, but sometimes things are just not meant to be because the circumstances just don't or won't call for it. The rose-tinted lens on nostalgia goggles (and skulls) are just way too thick on some people and it takes a sledgehammer to get through to them. DBZ fans are going to have to suck it up and rip the band-aid off should it get to that point, and we don't know yet if that's what's going to happen.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Japanese fans will also turn on a dime and throw an actress in the dumpster if they get married or possibly even get caught dating, whereas Western fans don

It's usually the kpop netizens that usually do that from what I saw but I haven't paid attention deep in jpop.

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

So, he claims that "nice guys" can turn mean at the drop of the hat, but he won't say the same with "nice girls" that he was "close friends" with? This really does sound like selective reasoning which only signifies his utter blindness to reality.

He’s right though, Monica and Jamie have shown nothing but kindness ever since this started:

Threatening to contact her lawyer and law enforcement along with Homeland Security, Jamie telling everyone that she wanted Vic’s head and balls while telling the person that disagreed with her to take Vic’s dick out of their ears, Bragging about the sex life with a nominee for Biggest Cuck in KickVic while telling someone to jack it in a sock...We shouldn’t forget their lovely, stunning, and brave company of Amanda Winn Lee, Dominique Skye, Renfamous, and the Funimation Purse Puppy Ass Remoras.

They have done absolutely nothing wrong, and it’s all Vic’s fault just because they say so.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

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How has this guy not have his own thread yet? Has he been doxxed yet too?

The absolute salt.

 

[quickthrowaway]

If you grab a random person off the street and you ask them who is Tom Holland or who is Tobey Maguire, you'll likely hear back that they're Spiderman. If you ask them who Yuri Lowenthal is, they'll say who? That's the basic explanation as to what a public figure is. The main point, Vic in no way is one.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

This is such a shitty filler ark. It's like the first twenty episodes were written by Gen Urobuchi or Dai Sato, but they had one of those "health breaks" that the Japanese love so much and it was taken over by Sho Aikawa. He's such a hack. Every time he takes over a project he just covers old ground worse than it was originally covered, and anything he does ad has no value.

The TCPA ruling can't happen fast enough

Weeb wars season 1 is on hiatus sadly, we got a month till the action pick up.

 

[Random Internet Person]

This is such a shitty filler ark. It's like the first twenty episodes were written by Gen Urobuchi or Dai Sato, but they had one of those "health breaks" that the Japanese love so much and it was taken over by Sho Aikawa. He's such a hack. Every time he takes over a project he just covers old ground worse than it was originally covered, and anything he does ad has no value.

The TCPA ruling can't happen fast enough

Look on the bright side. At least we're not dealing with the people who brought us Hunter x Hunter and Berserk.

 

[AnOminous]

How has this guy not have his own thread yet? Has he been doxxed yet too?

I knew he'd jump on this when Nick admitted he'd fucked up on it.

I'd have more respect for it if he'd ever admitted he fucked up on all the absolutely moronic shit he's said, like that Nick could be successfully sued for copyright infringement for his videos commenting on the depositions in the case.

Nick has corrected himself when he's been wrong about things before, and even once when I'd just made a minor correction about something in the Meyer v. Waid case in a post on the thread here, which nobody else had even noticed.

That shows more integrity than Dumbford, who routinely says absolutely idiotic shit and then leaves it there.

Weeb wars season 1 is on hiatus sadly, we got a month till the action pick up.

You seriously think these idiots won't find something moronic to do in the next month?

 

[teriyakiburns]

It looks like everyone's favorite unbeknownst-named-party-in-lawsuit-by-defendants-then-turned-affiant-for-the-plaintiff Stan Dahlin is being coy on Twitter again.

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I'd write it off as nothing, but the last time he was being cryptic he completely butt fucked Monica's testimony into oblivion, so I'll cut the man some slack. At least while I look for the popcorn bowl.

Oh boy, I wonder who he's talking about.

 

[P5Fever]

Weeb wars season 1 is on hiatus sadly, we got a month till the action pick up.

I’m honestly shocked we actually had a filler arc considering every time we thought it was gonna slow down KV or one of the defendants did something so spectacularly exceptional or something managed to come out that it was just a constant roller coaster that I thought would never even slow down a fraction.